HallmarkSweptWinger
Joined: Jul 27, 2006
Posts: 1284
Berlinesia, Germanifornia
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Posted on Nov 21 2014 01:31 PM
Badger wrote:
Except that the current VM's (JM or Jag) are REALLY good guitars for the money. For someone with your experience, halb-stunde at most to make it play like your own. I love my VM JM and don't feel anything bad because of the sticker on the headstock. A slight treble-bleed mod and it will spank all the way down to 5 on the volume knob.
Oh oh! Yes, I guess those are great guitars in sound and feeling… I feel the thought in me to get a Squier Jag and Jazz. They are not expensive. I was two or three times very near to get a Squier VM Jag in this nice green color!
What can I do now? I already have a lot of Jags and Jazzys… but not the nice Squiers.
— Twang cheers!
Ralf Kilauea
www.kilaueas.de
https://kilaueas.bandcamp.com/album/touch-my-alien
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Badger
Joined: Nov 16, 2013
Posts: 4537
Wisconsin
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Posted on Nov 21 2014 01:38 PM
Haha. Well, you should rest easy then. Most folks who get a Squier get one because they can't afford the Fender sticker. You have worked hard & are blessed already to have a nice collection. (If I were constantly travelling by air however, for example, I would have one of these as my travelling spare so maybe it wouldn't hurt so much if it got pinched on a luggage belt or something.)
— Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel
DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices.
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Nov 21 2014 04:32 PM
Just snagged this '59 Jazzmaster. Traded for my other '59 Jazzmaster. The new '59 and my '60 have identical necks. Amazing.

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Badger
Joined: Nov 16, 2013
Posts: 4537
Wisconsin
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Posted on Nov 21 2014 04:41 PM
JakeDobner wrote:
The new '59 and my '60 have identical necks. Amazing.
That's a very neat thing. Congrats.
— Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel
DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices.
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HallmarkSweptWinger
Joined: Jul 27, 2006
Posts: 1284
Berlinesia, Germanifornia
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Posted on Nov 22 2014 03:37 AM
JakeDobner wrote:
Just snagged this '59 Jazzmaster. Traded for my other '59 Jazzmaster. The new '59 and my '60 have identical necks. Amazing.

Oh, cool!
My first thought about your post was: Oh no!!! This should be a post in the "Gear" section, not here for us gearoholics…
BUT, yes, trading could be also a nice kind of solutuion for us gearoholics!?
If the trade is okay and you are happy with it, it is great!
So, is anybody interested in trading? What would you other gearoholics offer?
I think about let go a nice little Squier Duo Sonic, two Jagstangs (one fiesta red, one sonic blue) and a Squier Supersonic in silver sparkle.
But I dont know what I would expect for them…
A 59 Jazzmaster would be fine for sure.
…I maybe would play even a Strat (with sound modifications), if the Strat would be complete golden sparkle.
— Twang cheers!
Ralf Kilauea
www.kilaueas.de
https://kilaueas.bandcamp.com/album/touch-my-alien
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crumble
Joined: Sep 09, 2008
Posts: 3158
Guildford England
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Posted on Nov 22 2014 04:46 AM
JakeDobner wrote:
Just snagged this '59 Jazzmaster. Traded for my other '59 Jazzmaster. The new '59 and my '60 have identical necks. Amazing.

Fire and thief aside heaven forbid. It looks as good as money in the bank to me.
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HallmarkSweptWinger
Joined: Jul 27, 2006
Posts: 1284
Berlinesia, Germanifornia
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Posted on Nov 22 2014 01:55 PM
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Nokie
Joined: Oct 06, 2008
Posts: 550
So Cal
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Posted on Nov 22 2014 05:02 PM
JakeDobner wrote:
Just snagged this '59 Jazzmaster. Traded for my other '59 Jazzmaster. The new '59 and my '60 have identical necks. Amazing.

That '59 Jazzmaster is a beauty, Jake! I'm totally droooling. I'm not clear, though, on why you're trading one '59 JM for another. What did you want from this one and what did they other person want in the one you let go? -Marty
— "Hello Girls!"
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Nov 22 2014 06:35 PM
Nokie wrote:
That '59 Jazzmaster is a beauty, Jake! I'm totally droooling. I'm not clear, though, on why you're trading one '59 JM for another. What did you want from this one and what did they other person want in the one you let go? -Marty
Hey Marty, thanks! This one has an identical neck to my '60 Jazzmaster, so that was the big draw! Also, that one had a celluloid card and the call of anodized spoke to me. This one is also within the first 8 months of production, so there is some history there. This one of generally worth more money as well just due to how rare gold guard Jazzmasters are.
My buddy's run a guitar shop, Mike and Mike's Guitar Bar, and always take care of me! I turned a '72 Jazzmaster into a '66, and then into the '60. And This '59 was a series of guitars in trade as well. Or sell then buy...
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Nov 22 2014 06:36 PM
Nokie wrote:
That '59 Jazzmaster is a beauty, Jake! I'm totally droooling. I'm not clear, though, on why you're trading one '59 JM for another. What did you want from this one and what did they other person want in the one you let go? -Marty
Hey Marty, thanks! This one has an identical neck to my '60 Jazzmaster, so that was the big draw! Also, that one had a celluloid card and the call of anodized spoke to me. This one is also within the first 8 months of production, so there is some history there. This one of generally worth more money as well just due to how rare gold guard Jazzmasters are.
My buddy's run a guitar shop, Mike and Mike's Guitar Bar, and always take care of me! I turned a '72 Jazzmaster into a '66, and then into the '60. And This '59 was a series of guitars in trade as well. Or sell then buy...
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LeeVanCleef
Joined: Oct 05, 2011
Posts: 744
France
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Posted on Nov 24 2014 05:10 PM
JakeDobner wrote:

This thread is becoming very dangerous.
— Old punks never die... They just become surf rockers.
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Nov 24 2014 05:21 PM
Dude... it sounds amazing.
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LeeVanCleef
Joined: Oct 05, 2011
Posts: 744
France
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Posted on Nov 24 2014 05:35 PM

— Old punks never die... They just become surf rockers.
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Nov 24 2014 06:30 PM
Ha!
Honestly though! The AVRI series is amazing and vintage stuff really isn't worth the cost. Especially put in new pickups for a Jazzmaster. For me... the worth is in the neck and in the neck alone(and the vibrato spring). I've just kind of happened into amazing deals/trades for each subsequent Jazzmaster. It isn't something I'm going to drop $5-6K on... ever...?
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LeeVanCleef
Joined: Oct 05, 2011
Posts: 744
France
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Posted on Nov 24 2014 07:10 PM
Joking aside, I'm safe from vintage Fender GAS (I think...?), despite the gorgeousness and desirability of these guitars. A while ago I read an article in that horrible Guitar Aficionado magazine about Tom Verlaine's '58 Jazzmaster. It had been acquired by a studio executive who, by her own admission, could barely play the intro to Smoke on the Water. That made me think that even though my guitar skills are not as abysmal, such a fine instrument would definitely be spoiled in my hands. I'd rather leave the fine vintage Fenders to people who can use them much better than I can, all the more so as they only exist in limited numbers. My upgraded CIJs are good enough for me and I'm extremely happy with them.
...that, and the fact that buying a vintage Fender at current European market prices would require me to sell several vital organs.
— Old punks never die... They just become surf rockers.
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Gilette
Joined: May 04, 2014
Posts: 734
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Posted on Nov 25 2014 02:15 AM
LeeVanCleef wrote:
... My upgraded CIJs are good enough for me and I'm extremely happy with them.
It all depends on what you're aim is and the money you're willing to spend I guess. When I started It took me two years of working for a tulip farmer to buy my first real Fender strat. I figured it would get me to play like a 'pro'. But it didn't. It was heavy, I couldn't get used to the neck and it didn't sound the way I wanted it to. So I sold it without regrets.
A few years later I bought the cheapest Chinese Squier I could find. Not because of the money but because I liked the neck and it felt good to play. Gradually I upgraded different parts whenever something was bothering me. Some new tuners, a better bridge, new pickups etc. Now 20 years later only the neck and the body are left of the guitar I bought, but I still prefer it over my other guitars. It's a part of me now.
Now if it was an American built expensive original, I wouldn't have considered changing the parts. It would have made me very nervous to mess with something that is supposed to be perfect as it is.
That said, if I was a 'pro' and had money to burn... who knows what I would have done to all of my vintage originals... But I know for sure I wouldn't be any happier than I am now with my Squier.
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FriendshipMaster
Joined: Feb 27, 2012
Posts: 95
Sacramento CA
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Posted on Nov 25 2014 12:09 PM
JakeDobner wrote:
Nokie wrote:
That '59 Jazzmaster is a beauty, Jake! I'm totally droooling. I'm not clear, though, on why you're trading one '59 JM for another. What did you want from this one and what did they other person want in the one you let go? -Marty
Hey Marty, thanks! This one has an identical neck to my '60 Jazzmaster, so that was the big draw! Also, that one had a celluloid card and the call of anodized spoke to me. This one is also within the first 8 months of production, so there is some history there. This one of generally worth more money as well just due to how rare gold guard Jazzmasters are.
My buddy's run a guitar shop, Mike and Mike's Guitar Bar, and always take care of me! I turned a '72 Jazzmaster into a '66, and then into the '60. And This '59 was a series of guitars in trade as well. Or sell then buy...
Hey man I used to own that guitar, I hate to burst your bubble but purchased the guard from tone guard it's a relic'd repro, and the neck is actually a 61
http://offsetguitars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=77945
Here's some of your guitars origins, the next owner added more of parts as well but I believe your guitar still has my avri tubs...congrats though it's a great one
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FriendshipMaster
Joined: Feb 27, 2012
Posts: 95
Sacramento CA
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Posted on Nov 25 2014 12:10 PM
JakeDobner wrote:
Nokie wrote:
That '59 Jazzmaster is a beauty, Jake! I'm totally droooling. I'm not clear, though, on why you're trading one '59 JM for another. What did you want from this one and what did they other person want in the one you let go? -Marty
Hey Marty, thanks! This one has an identical neck to my '60 Jazzmaster, so that was the big draw! Also, that one had a celluloid card and the call of anodized spoke to me. This one is also within the first 8 months of production, so there is some history there. This one of generally worth more money as well just due to how rare gold guard Jazzmasters are.
My buddy's run a guitar shop, Mike and Mike's Guitar Bar, and always take care of me! I turned a '72 Jazzmaster into a '66, and then into the '60. And This '59 was a series of guitars in trade as well. Or sell then buy...
Hey man I used to own that guitar, I hate to burst your bubble but purchased the guard from tone guard it's a relic'd repro, and the neck is actually a 61
http://offsetguitars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=77945
Here's some of your guitars origins, the next owner added more of parts as well but I believe your guitar still has my avri tubs...congrats though it's a great one
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Nov 25 2014 12:51 PM
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Squid
Joined: Aug 22, 2010
Posts: 1019
Portland, Oregon with Insanitizers
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Posted on Nov 25 2014 01:18 PM
I've channeled my GAS pressure into modding guitars I own. So I buy pickups and parts rather than guitars, and I have learned about differences among pickups, bridges, vibrato blocks, nuts, and necks. This has brought me closer to my inner punk (e.g., headstock http://insanitizers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Dk-Red-6PU-Sm.jpg). With new software I'm also closer to my inner nerd.
However, inner punk + inner nerd + residual GAS conspired to precipitate my new purchase of this guitar-like substance:
http://yourockguitar.com/yrg-gen2
The lure was the lore--that it would allow computer transcription of my guitar playing into sheet music. Now that I have this thing, the task is easier said than done. Actually not done yet, and any advice should be appreciated.
— Insanitizers! http://www.insanitizers.com
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