Badger
Joined: Nov 16, 2013
Posts: 4536
Wisconsin
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Posted on Dec 06 2016 09:39 PM
stratdancer wrote:
That is bad ass! What a great idea!
What he said. :thumsb-up:
— Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel
DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices.
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remora1
Joined: Jan 04, 2008
Posts: 1276
San Pedro, CA
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Posted on Dec 06 2016 09:58 PM
wfoguy wrote:
^^^^^^
Looks good to me. Does it weight around 10 lbs. ?
It weighs in at 23 lbs. Not ultra light but not bad considering everything I put in there.
— Bill S._______
HELLDIVER on Facebook
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bjoish
Joined: Jul 06, 2010
Posts: 596
Stockholm
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Posted on Dec 07 2016 05:02 AM
Thats awesome!
Very cool idea
Are you happy with the SurfyTrem?
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remora1
Joined: Jan 04, 2008
Posts: 1276
San Pedro, CA
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Posted on Dec 07 2016 09:23 AM
Love it! The original plan was to use all "mini" form factor pedals (besides the Turbo Tuner), but when the SurfyTrem was announced I knew I had to make room for it.
Thanks everyone for the kind words and thank you Bjorn for creating the SurfyBear and SurfyTrem they're the best!
— Bill S._______
HELLDIVER on Facebook
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shake_n_stomp
Joined: Jan 09, 2014
Posts: 615
Vancouver BC
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Posted on Dec 07 2016 09:53 AM
How posts like that only build my anticipation for another run of the SurfyTrem. For years, I tried to like my univibe effect as a regular use pedal for non-surf. But that magical combination of both tremolo and vibrato seems so much more natural to my ears. The harmonic tremolo on the Fender IV's Malibu Run is also a great reference for that sound. I am resisting the urge to get the Flint for its 61 harmonic trem and will be patient for the SurfyTrem.
— Lorne
The Surf Shakers: https://www.facebook.com/TheSurfShakers
Vancouver BC Canada
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Badger
Joined: Nov 16, 2013
Posts: 4536
Wisconsin
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Posted on Dec 07 2016 10:28 AM
shake_n_stomp wrote:
The harmonic tremolo on the Fender IV's Malibu Run is also a great reference for that sound. I am resisting the urge to get the Flint for its 61 harmonic trem and will be patient for the SurfyTrem.
Are you possibly thinking of Little Ollie vs. Malibu Run? I know there's a mis-named youtube video out there. But that IS the sound. You will not be disappointed at all with Bjorn's Surfy Trem pedal; the harmonic (brown) setting can be like a whole 'nuther instrument.
— Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel
DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices.
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shake_n_stomp
Joined: Jan 09, 2014
Posts: 615
Vancouver BC
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Posted on Dec 07 2016 11:13 AM
Badger wrote:
shake_n_stomp wrote:
The harmonic tremolo on the Fender IV's Malibu Run is also a great reference for that sound. I am resisting the urge to get the Flint for its 61 harmonic trem and will be patient for the SurfyTrem.
Are you possibly thinking of Little Ollie vs. Malibu Run? I know there's a mis-named youtube video out there. But that IS the sound. You will not be disappointed at all with Bjorn's Surfy Trem pedal; the harmonic (brown) setting can be like a whole 'nuther instrument.
Little Ollie is the ska-type tune where Malibu Run is the swampy tremolo-laden chill-out. Yes, they were apparently switched on labels. Such is the case with surf instro...and the Astronauts singing "...Ban-zai Pipe-line" on Kuk contributed to the mix-up in those labels, too....and those tunes from various artists where the song would appear on another album but with another name (High Tide/Tranquillizer for the Lively Ones comes to mind).
— Lorne
The Surf Shakers: https://www.facebook.com/TheSurfShakers
Vancouver BC Canada
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Badger
Joined: Nov 16, 2013
Posts: 4536
Wisconsin
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Posted on Dec 07 2016 01:58 PM
shake_n_stomp wrote:
Little Ollie is the ska-type tune where Malibu Run is the swampy tremolo-laden chill-out. Yes, they were apparently switched on labels. Such is the case with surf instro...and the Astronauts singing "...Ban-zai Pipe-line" on Kuk contributed to the mix-up in those labels, too....and those tunes from various artists where the song would appear on another album but with another name (High Tide/Tranquillizer for the Lively Ones comes to mind).
Hunh - thanks! (Not knowing what ska is/was this helps a bit.)
Anyway, I like 'em both; you're going to love the pedal.
— Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel
DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices.
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Clarry
Joined: Oct 01, 2014
Posts: 519
Streatham, London
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Posted on Dec 08 2016 04:55 AM
Iggydog wrote:
Clarry wrote:
Needs some cosmetic stuff done to it; black metal paint on the chassis etc.
But there's room for a rack mounted Surfy Trem in there.
I now have to sort out why it's less reverby and drippy, now that it's been mounted...
Cool enclosure.
The first thing to check when it's less reverby and drippy is that you've got the reverb pan send/receive cables the right way 'round. It's easy to get those reversed.
It was something much more technical than that...foam. I forgot to take the protective packaging out.
Sounds much, much, better than the inbuilt digital spring reverb on my amp, but I still have to go full on Dwell, Mix and Tone for what I would class as "middling" surf drip. Of course, there are a lot of things for me to consider such as tone settings on my amp, and the actual "amp" settings as it's a modelling amp - a Vox VT80+. There "Cali Clean" and "AC30" sound best. The pan is a TAD 4AB3C1B so I don't know what the general consensus is on them.
I really need to test drive it at volume tonight, as bedroom setting can be a bit deceiving too. Thursday is band rehearsal, so I'll give it a crank (I use the studio's Roland Jazz-Chorus at rehearsal).
All in all, it's definitely there-or-there-about and I was getting some great sounding rhythm work out of it on the Squier Jag. When dialled in around the 6s and 7s I'm getting a lovely "full" tone. A bit of tweaking will get there in the end.
And probably more importantly, it's got me listening to what I'm doing.
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shake_n_stomp
Joined: Jan 09, 2014
Posts: 615
Vancouver BC
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Posted on Dec 08 2016 10:01 AM
Clarry wrote:
Iggydog wrote:
Clarry wrote:
Needs some cosmetic stuff done to it; black metal paint on the chassis etc.
But there's room for a rack mounted Surfy Trem in there.
I now have to sort out why it's less reverby and drippy, now that it's been mounted...
Cool enclosure.
The first thing to check when it's less reverby and drippy is that you've got the reverb pan send/receive cables the right way 'round. It's easy to get those reversed.
It was something much more technical than that...foam. I forgot to take the protective packaging out.
Sounds much, much, better than the inbuilt digital spring reverb on my amp, but I still have to go full on Dwell, Mix and Tone for what I would class as "middling" surf drip. Of course, there are a lot of things for me to consider such as tone settings on my amp, and the actual "amp" settings as it's a modelling amp - a Vox VT80+. There "Cali Clean" and "AC30" sound best. The pan is a TAD 4AB3C1B so I don't know what the general consensus is on them.
I really need to test drive it at volume tonight, as bedroom setting can be a bit deceiving too. Thursday is band rehearsal, so I'll give it a crank (I use the studio's Roland Jazz-Chorus at rehearsal).
All in all, it's definitely there-or-there-about and I was getting some great sounding rhythm work out of it on the Squier Jag. When dialled in around the 6s and 7s I'm getting a lovely "full" tone. A bit of tweaking will get there in the end.
And probably more importantly, it's got me listening to what I'm doing.
Foam. It's always the foam.
The point above suggesting a possible reversal of the RCA in/out cables may be the reason you must 'go full on Dwell, Mix and Tone for what [you] would class as "middling" surf drip'. Either swap them on the reverb pan or on your electronics chassis. The RCAs do no carry any current - just audio - so this is safe and non-destructive although I still strongly recommend disconnecting mains power before mucking about with anything.
A setting of 6-6-6 (typical starting point) should be pretty swampy at that. I suggest going straight from guitar to reverb unit to amp to keep things simple for troubleshooting.
My understanding is the TAD pan you mentioned is the horizontal-mount version of the normal Fender reverb unit spec (i.e. ends with "B" in the PN). All of mine end with 'C' rather than 'B'. I do not know the ramifications of a horizontal orientation of a 'C' or a vertical orientation of a 'B'. I have read several favourable comments about TAD pans.
— Lorne
The Surf Shakers: https://www.facebook.com/TheSurfShakers
Vancouver BC Canada
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Ariel
Joined: Aug 29, 2009
Posts: 1556
Israel
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Posted on Dec 08 2016 10:13 AM
shake_n_stomp wrote:
My understanding is the TAD pan you mentioned is the horizontal-mount version of the normal Fender reverb unit spec (i.e. ends with "B" in the PN).
That's true.
I do not know the ramifications of a horizontal orientation of a 'C' or a vertical orientation of a 'B'.
If mounted not according to spec, it can cut the reverb short.
The orientation doesn't matter as long as it's mounted according to the spec. I have several pans of same make, C and B, and a minuscule difference is more due to individual variation than orientation.
Clarry,
Some pans can just be defective, so there's that.
But yeah, wait until you test it with a real amp. As said, 6,6,6 should be plenty, but a weak input stage and amp profile can seriously diminish the splash.
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Clarry
Joined: Oct 01, 2014
Posts: 519
Streatham, London
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Posted on Dec 09 2016 09:42 AM
Well, there was more drip at volume on a decent amp. The rest of the band were impressed with it, although not being into surf I don't know what they expected.
There still seems to be something missing at the top end, and thinking back it could be with one of my solder joints. I blocked one of the holes for a wire on the input or output and couldn't unblock. So I soldered across the solder disc.
I'm surprised it works at all!! I'm planning on another in the new year anyway, now I have the bug.
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Fady
Joined: Mar 07, 2010
Posts: 2257
North Carolina
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Posted on Dec 09 2016 09:10 PM
Related, shameless plug. Anyone building a Surfy Bear, or have built one and wanting to experiment with a few different pans, I've got 2 tested but new ones for sale to scratch that itch.
— Fady
El Mirage @ ReverbNation
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Tqi
Joined: Dec 07, 2014
Posts: 1222
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Posted on Dec 09 2016 11:44 PM
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Latherman87
Joined: Dec 20, 2012
Posts: 178
Oklahoma
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Posted on Dec 10 2016 02:08 PM
Finally found myself a cool metal toolbox.....it's an old 19" Union Utility Chest....the pan fits perfectly with enough room to mount vertically(maybe with a bit of tray modding for the rca) or horizontally. $12 at a junk store....not digging the olive drab for surf though. I think im gonna drill out all the rivets....repaint it blue or seafoam and call it good! Can't wait to get my hands on the Surfy Bear!!!
— If you want the ultimate,you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
Brett
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SamDBL
Joined: Sep 19, 2016
Posts: 246
Tampa
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Posted on Dec 10 2016 04:04 PM
What about these amazing pedal versions people are on here building? Are there pre made enclosures that are the right size? Or are these built from scratch?
— Guitarist for Black Valley Moon & Down By Law
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Tqi
Joined: Dec 07, 2014
Posts: 1222
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Posted on Dec 10 2016 09:30 PM
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Latherman87
Joined: Dec 20, 2012
Posts: 178
Oklahoma
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Posted on Dec 20 2016 10:26 AM
Ok well I just went through this entire thread again......haha! And I can't find what I'm looking for....iv read on the newer versions of the SB that the optional solder points for an LED are no longer there. Are there any close up pics to show me exactly where and how to solder in a toggle switch and LED? Iv got a 12v jewel...so to my knowledge I won't need a resistor. Thanks in advance! I'm severely limited on electronics experience,most the stuff iv read on this thread may as well have been Russian haha! I will receive my SB on Sunday for christmas.....so I'm trying to get all the info I can so I can sit right down and get to soldering! Thanks!
— If you want the ultimate,you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
Brett
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bjoish
Joined: Jul 06, 2010
Posts: 596
Stockholm
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Posted on Dec 20 2016 11:07 AM
Latherman87 wrote:
Ok well I just went through this entire thread again......haha! And I can't find what I'm looking for....iv read on the newer versions of the SB that the optional solder points for an LED are no longer there. Are there any close up pics to show me exactly where and how to solder in a toggle switch and LED? Iv got a 12v jewel...so to my knowledge I won't need a resistor. Thanks in advance! I'm severely limited on electronics experience,most the stuff iv read on this thread may as well have been Russian haha! I will receive my SB on Sunday for christmas.....so I'm trying to get all the info I can so I can sit right down and get to soldering! Thanks!
Hi
As you can in this schematic, you can easily add a power switch and a pilot lamp (or LED+resistor).
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shake_n_stomp
Joined: Jan 09, 2014
Posts: 615
Vancouver BC
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Posted on Dec 20 2016 02:34 PM
bjoish wrote:
Latherman87 wrote:
Ok well I just went through this entire thread again......haha! And I can't find what I'm looking for....iv read on the newer versions of the SB that the optional solder points for an LED are no longer there. Are there any close up pics to show me exactly where and how to solder in a toggle switch and LED? Iv got a 12v jewel...so to my knowledge I won't need a resistor. Thanks in advance! I'm severely limited on electronics experience,most the stuff iv read on this thread may as well have been Russian haha! I will receive my SB on Sunday for christmas.....so I'm trying to get all the info I can so I can sit right down and get to soldering! Thanks!
Hi
As you can in this schematic, you can easily add a power switch and a pilot lamp (or LED+resistor).
Yeah, it is important to note that a 12V lamp (usually) has two contacts and they are interchangeable but it is just needs to be wired in as parallel.
The on/off switch is wired in series only on the 12V hot wire to open/close the 12V power to the circuit board. It took me a bit to work out how to figure out the wiring for these two things because of my own inexperience with wiring electrical circuits but totally worth the effort.
— Lorne
The Surf Shakers: https://www.facebook.com/TheSurfShakers
Vancouver BC Canada
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