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LeeVanCleef wrote:

stratdancer wrote:

I'd like a Tad but not available here.

The MOD pans available in the US are the same as Tube Amp Doctor's rebranded TAD pans.

Really? How cool is that. Thanks man!!!
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recept this morning
i am in hurry to try it
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Smile Smile Smile

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bjoish, I am going to order the kit but wanted to know what MOD Reverb tank would go with the circuit.

http://www.amplifiedparts.com/products/reverb_tanks

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If you want the same sound as from a 6G15 you should choose the same type.
As the Surfguitar101 wiki describes it:
"The correct PN for a Fender replacement outboard reverb pan meant to hang vertically, as opposed to one lying horizontal in the bottom of a combo amp, is PN 4AB3C1C"

The impedances should be 8ohm-in + 2250ohm-out.
The PN for horizontal placement is:4AB3C1B

Maybe somebody here knows if it matters which side is up for horizontal placement??

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normally the open side down
http://www.amplifiedparts.com/products/P-RK-4AB3C1B
in my deluxe the pan is mount this way and in the bag there is cartboard under the pan (i think is for isolate vib from the amp)

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ludobag wrote:

normally the open side down
http://www.amplifiedparts.com/products/P-RK-4AB3C1B
in my deluxe the pan is mount this way and in the bag there is cartboard under the pan (i think is for isolate vib from the amp)

I believe they hang the springs differently for side mounted tanks. Not sure how it's done though, maybe someone knows.

I've read that there is little difference in reverb between the horizontal and vertical pans. Any truth to that? I also think I want a medium length reverb tank. I get a nice drip from my Twin with the return going into the normal channel but to much dwell that I can't control. I was hoping to to build this to fire the reverb hard for drip but not have the cave like dwell. Any thoughts?

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Isn't the long dwell time (more properly, sustain of reverberated signal) a function of the coils' physical characteristics? I believe someone posted that the middle digit in the part# ought to be lower – a 1 or 2 rather than 3 – to help achieve short reverb sustain.

The Dwell knob on a reverb circuit controls input to the transducer driving the coil, right?

Since I got my Twin BF'd and reverted to original specs (was a miracle it functioned at all previously with all the wack mods) I now have the Reverb Return going into the Normal Channel input for more Drip but as Stratdancer says, the long reverb sustain is overpowering.

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JObeast wrote:

Isn't the long dwell time (more properly, sustain of reverberated signal) a function of the coils' physical characteristics? I believe someone posted that the middle digit in the part# ought to be lower – a 1 or 2 rather than 3 – to help achieve short reverb sustain.

The Dwell knob on a reverb circuit controls input to the transducer driving the coil, right?

Since I got my Twin BF'd and reverted to original specs (was a miracle it functioned at all previously with all the wack mods) I now have the Reverb Return going into the Normal Channel input for more Drip but as Stratdancer says, the long reverb sustain is overpowering.

Did you run the return through a tubescreamer on the return line? Maximum drip and it sounds incredible but dwells on forever when maxed. I am going to order the mid reverb pan for my surfy bear and hopefully find a balance of drip and less dwell between both reverb instigators.

The Kahuna Kings

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tested and approuved
then first my 12 v power supply sucks lot of hum cause it isn't regulated
then i try with my ibanez power supply for 9v effect who is regulated
it works ,but before i need to invert the pan ? the red on the white of my deluxe pan ?like the mod or tad on real tank
on the pan it is writen input white then i send the input signal of the fet reverb in and in fact for working need to invert the pan ??(fender invert the sens of pan ?)
all my pot are invert they descrease when i go up ? maybe wrong wiring then need to invert the 2 wires or invert the writing (more simple)
need a good power supply ,a tad pan and to make a nice cab for all of this

but you can go it sound and it is not harsh as i famous effect!really near the real deal to my taste
edith i find another 12 v power supply and it works even better
need to make a nice box for it
also put a toggle

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Last edited: Jul 12, 2014 13:53:34

ludobag wrote:

normally the open side down
http://www.amplifiedparts.com/products/P-RK-4AB3C1B
in my deluxe the pan is mount this way and in the bag there is cartboard under the pan (i think is for isolate vib from the amp)

Yeah, thats what I heard too!
I was wondering if it would work just as good with the pan horizontally upside down...
I am trying to find a way of building a real compact cabinet.

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ludobag wrote:

but you can go it sound and it is not harsh as i famous effect!really near the real deal to my taste
edith i find another 12 v power supply and it works even better
need to make a nice box for it
also put a toggle

Great!
So apart from a new 12V power supply and rewiring the pots it works ok?

surfybear.weebly.com

Yes Works really well ,i have play It fews hours since and really like It
The more i like It is interactions with the pick
(,a thing i don t have with the fvr1, only ice pick )
It is really easy to set up and you have lot of different sound
With the de luxe pan it drip already a lot
You know what ,i Am happy

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This is verging on a hijack of the Surfy Bear Thread... but no, I havent boosted the Return signal yet. I have a Fulldrive FDII (1st version) and a Rangemaster clone. One of those might make it sound more awesome...

Jonesing for the Surfy Bear FET circuit, the 'poor man's 6G15', but too damn broke to pop even $100 for the whole shebang. stratdancer wrote:

JObeast wrote:

Isn't the long dwell time (more properly, sustain of reverberated signal) a function of the coils' physical characteristics? I believe someone posted that the middle digit in the part# ought to be lower – a 1 or 2 rather than 3 – to help achieve short reverb sustain.

The Dwell knob on a reverb circuit controls input to the transducer driving the coil, right?

Since I got my Twin BF'd and reverted to original specs (was a miracle it functioned at all previously with all the wack mods) I now have the Reverb Return going into the Normal Channel input for more Drip but as Stratdancer says, the long reverb sustain is overpowering.

Did you run the return through a tubescreamer on the return line? Maximum drip and it sounds incredible but dwells on forever when maxed. I am going to order the mid reverb pan for my surfy bear and hopefully find a balance of drip and less dwell between both reverb instigators.

Squink Out!

Just ordered in the FET Reverb from Surfy Bear. Also ordered a horizontal MOD pan. I am looking forward to this project. Has anyone done build thread?

I am not obsolete, I am RETRO.... Cool

welcome to the club of surfy bear reverb fet user's
i need to order somme thing to make the cab ,and to have a chassis made (i will try an aluminium one diy )
bur as i beguin i send some pics

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I picked up the Fender grill cloth for the front of the box today...
I dont want to hijack this thread so if I am someone let me know......
I imagine that the metal enclodure is just for the circuit board?
Is there a need to line the entire box like the cavity on a guitar? I have never seen the inside of a reverb unit........ Thumbs Up

I am not obsolete, I am RETRO.... Cool

I like the vintage tool box enclosure – a readymade, cheap to boot, with a certain grease-monkey panache.
What is the cheapest solution for a chassis?

Squink Out!

I haven't decided how or what I am putting this unit in but I like the idea of the tool box with a pull out tray to mount the knobs and board on the underside.

JO, you've got to try to boost that return signal. It makes an enormous difference!

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