bjoish
Joined: Jul 06, 2010
Posts: 596
Stockholm
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Posted on Nov 07 2017 05:27 AM
Mischa wrote:
Damn, I feel like an amateur, which I am. I hope I can get some advice. I was working on a switch to select different caps and I must have wired something completely wrong. While testing, only dry signal came out and suddenly it changed into a bad smell. I pulled the plug as fast as I could but I think I was too late. After rewiring back to original state no luck. When I shook the tank a bit I did hear the springs splashing but they sounded distorted.
Luckily I had another board laying around (which is supposed to go into a trem/verb combination. It’s in the initial enclosure for the time being now and everything is back to normal (even the cap switch works great) but it would be such a shame to throw the first board away and have to order a new one. Any chance that I can fix the board or do I just have to face the fact that it’s a goner?
Hi Mischa
Sorry about the problem.
Normally I dont recommend repairing SMT (surface mount) boards.
Since you added components to the RevInput, I would guess that the input jFET transistor is damaged. Can you see any visual damage on the board?
If you are comfortable with replacing a SOT23 transistor, I can send you one for free. I normally use a magnifying glass and two soldering irons for unsoldering.
I can of course not guarantee success 
Mail me!
/Björn
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Mischa
Joined: Aug 29, 2017
Posts: 35
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Posted on Nov 07 2017 08:03 AM
Thanks a lot for your advice and help Björn, I have sent you an email.
Cheers, Mischa
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DocDooley
Joined: Nov 11, 2017
Posts: 2
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Posted on Nov 11 2017 07:28 AM
Hi folks, perhaps somebody had the same experience and can help. I finished my Surfy Bear reverb only 2-3 weeks ago. It sounded great indeed, and I was very proud it finally worked.
Yester when playing it stopped working. There was some faint reverb signal and no original signal any more. The reverb pan still produces a splash when moved. Rotating the internal trim pot also produced some sound, as usual. The faint reverb signal is much lower than it would normally be. It responds to the Mix and Dwell pot, i.e. it is loudest when both are dimed and disappears completely when they are set to zero. In that latter setting, there is absolutely no sound.
I disassembled the case and did a visual inspection. All solder joints seem in order. No shortcuts are visible between circuit board and ground or wherever. There is no visible damage to the circuit board. It's a mystery.
Any help would be appreciated. Many thanks in advance.
Cheers, Doc Dooley
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bjoish
Joined: Jul 06, 2010
Posts: 596
Stockholm
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Posted on Nov 11 2017 11:15 AM
DocDooley wrote:
Hi folks, perhaps somebody had the same experience and can help. I finished my Surfy Bear reverb only 2-3 weeks ago. It sounded great indeed, and I was very proud it finally worked.
Yester when playing it stopped working. There was some faint reverb signal and no original signal any more. The reverb pan still produces a splash when moved. Rotating the internal trim pot also produced some sound, as usual. The faint reverb signal is much lower than it would normally be. It responds to the Mix and Dwell pot, i.e. it is loudest when both are dimed and disappears completely when they are set to zero. In that latter setting, there is absolutely no sound.
I disassembled the case and did a visual inspection. All solder joints seem in order. No shortcuts are visible between circuit board and ground or wherever. There is no visible damage to the circuit board. It's a mystery.
Any help would be appreciated. Many thanks in advance.
Cheers, Doc Dooley
Hi Doc
There seem to be a problem with your board.
Please send a mail to 'service' at our website www.surfyindustries.com.
I am sure we can solve this problem.
/Björn
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DocDooley
Joined: Nov 11, 2017
Posts: 2
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Posted on Nov 12 2017 06:39 AM
Thanks so much, Björn. I just did that. Best wishes, Doc Dooley
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langhorn
Joined: Jun 08, 2011
Posts: 12
sweden
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Posted on Nov 15 2017 08:24 AM
Hi I got one a couple of months ago, it sounds and looks great. One problem though, I experience both signal loss and treble loss when using it. Anyone else with this problem?
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surferjoemusic
Joined: Jan 01, 2008
Posts: 2106
Livorno
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Posted on Nov 15 2017 08:28 AM
langhorn wrote:
Hi I got one a couple of months ago, it sounds and looks great. One problem though, I experience both signal loss and treble loss when using it. Anyone else with this problem?
Just replied to you via email Michael. We fix this or replace it no problem, but I want to know what could cause that. No we have not experienced this problem with the Pedals, only with some kits when bad soldering is done. But it should not be the case 
We will get back to you via email asap!
Lorenzo
— Lorenzo "Surfer Joe" Valdambrini
(www.surfmusic.net)
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j_flanders
Joined: Jun 28, 2017
Posts: 162
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Posted on Nov 15 2017 08:45 AM
langhorn wrote:
I experience both signal loss and treble loss when using it. Anyone else with this problem?
ReverbFAQ wrote:
As the Mixer control is turned up from zero, additional resistance is placed in series with the output of the dry signal path (the cathode follower). This additional resistance forms a low-pass RC filter with the capacitance of the cable used to connect the reverb unit to the amplifier. The resultant filter removes high frequencies from the dry signal, an effect known as 'tone suck'.
http://wiki.surfguitar101.com/ReverbFaq
So, it's normal/expected behaviour.
For higher mixer settings (drippy surf setting) I don't mind the loss of highs in the dry signal because the abundant highs from the reverb will fill in the missing highs.
For low mixer settings the loss of signal/highs is pretty much unnoticeable.
It's only in the inbetween/moderate mixer settings that it sometimes bothers me.
I added a 'kill dry/wet only switch' to my surfy bear and use a Boss LS2 pedal to mix dry and wet. This way my dry signal and its highs are unaffected, regardless of the amount of reverb.
http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=117665.0
Last edited: Nov 15, 2017 09:31:12
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Mischa
Joined: Aug 29, 2017
Posts: 35
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Posted on Nov 15 2017 09:01 AM
Langhorn’s observation is spot on imo. What I like to add to this is that a good buffer after the Surfy Bear might help to bring back some high end loss.
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langhorn
Joined: Jun 08, 2011
Posts: 12
sweden
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Posted on Nov 15 2017 09:45 AM
j_flanders wrote:
langhorn wrote:
I experience both signal loss and treble loss when using it. Anyone else with this problem?
ReverbFAQ wrote:
As the Mixer control is turned up from zero, additional resistance is placed in series with the output of the dry signal path (the cathode follower). This additional resistance forms a low-pass RC filter with the capacitance of the cable used to connect the reverb unit to the amplifier. The resultant filter removes high frequencies from the dry signal, an effect known as 'tone suck'.
http://wiki.surfguitar101.com/ReverbFaq
So, it's normal/expected behaviour.
For higher mixer settings (drippy surf setting) I don't mind the loss of highs in the dry signal because the abundant highs from the reverb will fill in the missing highs.
For low mixer settings the loss of signal/highs is pretty much unnoticeable.
It's only in the inbetween/moderate mixer settings that it sometimes bothers me.
I added a 'kill dry/wet only switch' to my surfy bear and use a Boss LS2 pedal to mix dry and wet. This way my dry signal and its highs are unaffected, regardless of the amount of reverb.
http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=117665.0
Ok, thanks for info!
/Michael
Last edited: Nov 15, 2017 09:46:15
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langhorn
Joined: Jun 08, 2011
Posts: 12
sweden
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Posted on Nov 15 2017 09:47 AM
Ok, thanks for info!
/Michael
langhorn wrote:
j_flanders wrote:
langhorn wrote:
I experience both signal loss and treble loss when using it. Anyone else with this problem?
ReverbFAQ wrote:
As the Mixer control is turned up from zero, additional resistance is placed in series with the output of the dry signal path (the cathode follower). This additional resistance forms a low-pass RC filter with the capacitance of the cable used to connect the reverb unit to the amplifier. The resultant filter removes high frequencies from the dry signal, an effect known as 'tone suck'.
http://wiki.surfguitar101.com/ReverbFaq
So, it's normal/expected behaviour.
For higher mixer settings (drippy surf setting) I don't mind the loss of highs in the dry signal because the abundant highs from the reverb will fill in the missing highs.
For low mixer settings the loss of signal/highs is pretty much unnoticeable.
It's only in the inbetween/moderate mixer settings that it sometimes bothers me.
I added a 'kill dry/wet only switch' to my surfy bear and use a Boss LS2 pedal to mix dry and wet. This way my dry signal and its highs are unaffected, regardless of the amount of reverb.
http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=117665.0
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bjoish
Joined: Jul 06, 2010
Posts: 596
Stockholm
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Posted on Nov 15 2017 10:18 AM
Hej Michael
Do you have a 6G15 to compare with?
You should get a sound very similar to the 6G15.
Please contact 'service' from the surfyindustries website.
We can even discuss in Swedish 
/Björn
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arny
Joined: Aug 22, 2010
Posts: 612
Netherlands, Europe
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Posted on Nov 19 2017 05:55 AM
A little Aloha Sluts tribute to the Surfy Beeeerrrrrr pedal, this little gem even works with fuzzzzzzzz:
— www.alohasluts.com
Aloha Sluts on BandCamp
www.arnyzona.com (my photography)
Aloha Fest on facebook
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bjoish
Joined: Jul 06, 2010
Posts: 596
Stockholm
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Posted on Nov 19 2017 02:23 PM
Thank you Arny for the kind words!
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stratdancer
Joined: Dec 11, 2013
Posts: 2537
Akron, Ohio
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Posted on Nov 19 2017 03:25 PM
arny wrote:
A little Aloha Sluts tribute to the Surfy Beeeerrrrrr pedal, this little gem even works with fuzzzzzzzz:
I love my fuzz tones with the surfy!
— The Kahuna Kings
https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kahuna-Kings/459752090818447
https://thekahunakings.bandcamp.com/releases
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mrflood
Joined: Nov 29, 2017
Posts: 14
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Posted on Nov 29 2017 05:15 PM
Has anyone attempted to mount their Surfybear pedal on their pedal board? I am thinking the way to do it would be to replace the clear plexiglass bottom with something similar I can affix Velcro to. Thoughts?
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CrazyAces
Joined: Jul 31, 2012
Posts: 4053
Nashville, TN.
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Posted on Nov 30 2017 08:23 AM
Mrflood,
You may want to consider the Surfy Bear Kit for pedal board purposes.
This way you'll have full flexibility in mounting and it takes up less space.
My bandmate has a pedalboard with the actual reverb tank mounted underneath and we built the Surfy Bear controls into a pedal that is mounted on top, with the other pedals.
Works great for him.
Cheers,
Jeff
— http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic
http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyacesrock
http://www.reverbnation.com/crazyacesmusic
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Mischa
Joined: Aug 29, 2017
Posts: 35
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Posted on Nov 30 2017 08:36 AM
CrazyAces wrote:
Mrflood,
You may want to consider the Surfy Bear Kit for pedal board purposes.
This way you'll have full flexibility in mounting and it takes up less space.
My bandmate has a pedalboard with the actual reverb tank mounted underneath and we built the Surfy Bear controls into a pedal that is mounted on top, with the other pedals.
Works great for him.
Cheers,
Jeff
Hey Jeff, didn't you experience any induction from the power supply and/or other pedals? I have a Voodoo Lab Pedal Power underneath my Pedal Train and the hum caused by induction was too much to work with. I place the tank a few inches away from the board and then it is just fine.
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CrazyAces
Joined: Jul 31, 2012
Posts: 4053
Nashville, TN.
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Posted on Nov 30 2017 08:40 AM
Kiwamu, my bandmate, has no such problems and I think he's using the the same power supply.
His pedal board is often a rat's nest of barely working cables (a long time band joke) and he's real hard on gear but he's had no problems with inductance or hum.
— http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic
http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyacesrock
http://www.reverbnation.com/crazyacesmusic
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Mischa
Joined: Aug 29, 2017
Posts: 35
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Posted on Nov 30 2017 09:03 AM
CrazyAces wrote:
Kiwamu, my bandmate, has no such problems and I think he's using the the same power supply.
His pedal board is often a rat's nest of barely working cables (a long time band joke) and he's real hard on gear but he's had no problems with inductance or hum.
Alright, that's good to hear. Did he shield his tank? Do you know?
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