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Nice results. That turned out quite well, indeed.

The artist formerly known as: Synchro

When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.

synchro wrote:

Nice results. That turned out quite well, indeed. <<

Thanks Synchro!

I found out an important revelation, lesson to share.

The decision to use a top layer of strat pickguard 'ring' over the stock Jaguar pickguard turned out to be a necessary method of mounting the strat pickup.
I had cut up an old strat pickguard to fabricate rings and then glued them to the stock jag pickguard.

For the bridge, the only way to achieve the correct PU height adjustment up to the strings was to lift the PU to the point where the PU screw shoulders were above the stock Jsg pickguard height.
So, I effectively raised the PU using the strat pickguard mounting method to the top pickguard layer ring.

Normally a stratocaster setup is more level through the bridge, thus the PU is set lower, but still up close to the strings.
But the Jaguar bridge and break angle is more raised and creates a new issue.

So, what turned out to be an unknown factor in deciding how to mount these strat PUs turned out to be a serendipity!

Meanwhile, the neck PU height adjustment was no issue, and according to Fender spec is set lower to strings anyway.

I can't think of an alternative way to have mounted strat PUs otherwise.

Last edited: Sep 25, 2023 06:56:22

IceratzSurf wrote:

synchro wrote:

Nice results. That turned out quite well, indeed. <<

Thanks Synchro!

I found out an important revelation, lesson to share.

The decision to use a top layer of strat pickguard 'ring' over the stock Jaguar pickguard turned out to be a necessary method of mounting the strat pickup.
I had cut up an old strat pickguard to fabricate rings and then glued them to the stock jag pickguard.

For the bridge, the only way to achieve the correct PU height adjustment up to the strings was to lift the PU to the point where the PU screw shoulders were above the stock Jsg pickguard height.
So, I effectively raised the PU using the strat pickguard mounting method to the top pickguard layer ring.

Normally a stratocaster setup is more level through the bridge, thus the PU is set lower, but still up close to the strings.
But the Jaguar bridge and break angle is more raised and creates a new issue.

So, what turned out to be an unknown factor in deciding how to mount these strat PUs turned out to be a serendipity!

Meanwhile, the neck PU height adjustment was no issue, and according to Fender spec is set lower to strings anyway.

I can't think of an alternative way to have mounted strat PUs otherwise.

I’m dealing with the inverse issue, because of that strange pickguard which came from Warmoth for the Jaguar I just built. I ended up mounting Jaguar pickups under Strat covers and using Strat style height adjustments. I can’t get the adjustment range necessary to balance the pickups, so the neck pickup overwhelms the bridge, when both are selected.

Not having a router, I have farmed out the work to a trusted luthier in the area, and when I get the pickguard back, I will remount the Jaguar pickups as they were intended to be mounted.

The artist formerly known as: Synchro

When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.

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Last edited: Feb 01, 2024 13:23:04

Tqi wrote:

Supplement to the above:

Haven't decided exactly if I want to do anything with my GENIUS design beyond this guitar, so no spoilers just yet - but this is version 1 of my Jagmaster pickup bobbin printing. I already have a version 2 designed - not sure which one will work better because the designs were created through logic and not testing, so going to print them both! Each one is in two parts, which is good because I forgot to add a mounting tab and I'll need to add that before I print the other half. Very Happy

I am going to be printing variations on this alllll weekend. Which is fine, since I haven't even ordered magnets, tape or wire yet. Plan is for 12mm Alnico 5 magnets, and 42AWG Plain Enamel wire.

The two halves will be joined with kaptan tape, and some kind of paper tape will wrap outside them. The mount will be part of the lower bobbin, like the flatwork holes on a strat pickup, but it will be open like a Telecaster bridge pickup - no cover. And the bobbins will be printed in white, so that it'll look kinda like an open coil humbucker...

(thanks NewEgg.ca for the image) ...and obviously match the white-on-tort-on-silver of my SparkJag and the planned Jag-Stang.

Update:

v1 upper bobbin has finished printing and v2 is underway, due in about 2 hours.

One nice thing (and this was intentional), by printing the upper bobbin face-down, instead of the obvious striations from the print pattern, you instead get the texture of the build plate - in my case a matte finish like pressed wax, which is actually pretty darn close to the finish of waxed fibreboard that you find in a Fender-style pickup. I hoped this would be the case when I planned the project, and I'm pleased that I was right. Smile

An awesome endeavor. I look forward to following this.

The artist formerly known as: Synchro

When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.

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Last edited: Feb 01, 2024 13:24:14

Tqi wrote:

Here's updates on 2/4 of the current projects - pedalboards are waiting assembly and a few spares, no rush on that - and I've been clocking some long hours at work so no hackerspace time for amp work.

So, first up - one small part for the Jag-Stang:

Still using an old white Mustang pickguard as a placeholder for the inevitable Dark Vintage Tortoiseshell. But the Jaguar control plate was a must purchase to give me a sense of scale - it's not an original Fender part, but it's the same specs and I'm honestly not that fussy, £3.50 Chinese part is fine. Looking at this, I think the three-pickup layout is workable.

Even with the white pickguard, those three pickups look great, and lend a sense of power.

Tqi wrote:

Now, more importantly the Jazzmaster - pickguard attempt 2 is somewhee between Glasgow and my office, so still waiting on that - but I did get a new 3-way with white tip today, as well as a few very important parts for the v3 prototype pickup bobbins.

They're held together entirely friction fit with the 12mm magnets right now - the plan is to join the two halves with a loop of 4mm tape around the core and exposed bits of magnets - note to self - buy tape. One flaw in my genius I've found is that the light bracing ramps I used on the back to strengthen the mounting lugs makes them a little too narrow to sit deep in the trenches. As it stands, the surface of the pickups are at about "top of pickguard" height anyway, so I'm not sure it needs fixing, but I might revisit once the pickguard is here to see if there's margin for a slightly different bracing design. There's also the problem of not including a mounting hole for winding the pickup, and I think a slightly larger set of magnet holes may be in order as it required some rough finagling to open them up enough for the magnets. V4 is probably going to happen.

Apart from the inner and outer tapes there's a couple important parts still missing for the pickups. First, pickup wire. Second, a pickup winder. There are reasonably priced electric and manual options on eBay, Electric seems infinitely more sensible but is pretty westcountry and 3x the price. Wire - found a source of affordable enamel 42awg, just not buying it till I have a winder. Gonna get a whole kg up front, since these are my first pickups and they're entirely experimental. I may have mentioned this already but not having a good feel for turns to resistance to inductance, this is probably going to be a challenge with a few failures.

This should be an interesting project. Pickups are a bit more difficult to predict, because there are so many variables. An electrical engineer might be able to quantify all of the factors, but it couldn’t be done on the back of an envelope.

The artist formerly known as: Synchro

When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.

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Last edited: Feb 01, 2024 13:22:16

Tqi wrote:

Here's updates on 2/4 of the current projects - pedalboards are waiting assembly and a few spares, no rush on that - and I've been clocking some long hours at work so no hackerspace time for amp work.

So, first up - one small part for the Jag-Stang:

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Still using an old white Mustang pickguard as a placeholder for the inevitable Dark Vintage Tortoiseshell. But the Jaguar control plate was a must purchase to give me a sense of scale - it's not an original Fender part, but it's the same specs and I'm honestly not that fussy, £3.50 Chinese part is fine. Looking at this, I think the three-pickup layout is workable.

Now, more importantly the Jazzmaster - pickguard attempt 2 is somewhee between Glasgow and my office, so still waiting on that - but I did get a new 3-way with white tip today, as well as a few very important parts for the v3 prototype pickup bobbins.

image

They're held together entirely friction fit with the 12mm magnets right now - the plan is to join the two halves with a loop of 4mm tape around the core and exposed bits of magnets - note to self - buy tape. One flaw in my genius I've found is that the light bracing ramps I used on the back to strengthen the mounting lugs makes them a little too narrow to sit deep in the trenches. As it stands, the surface of the pickups are at about "top of pickguard" height anyway, so I'm not sure it needs fixing, but I might revisit once the pickguard is here to see if there's margin for a slightly different bracing design. There's also the problem of not including a mounting hole for winding the pickup, and I think a slightly larger set of magnet holes may be in order as it required some rough finagling to open them up enough for the magnets. V4 is probably going to happen.

Apart from the inner and outer tapes there's a couple important parts still missing for the pickups. First, pickup wire. Second, a pickup winder. There are reasonably priced electric and manual options on eBay, Electric seems infinitely more sensible but is pretty westcountry and 3x the price. Wire - found a source of affordable enamel 42awg, just not buying it till I have a winder. Gonna get a whole kg up front, since these are my first pickups and they're entirely experimental. I may have mentioned this already but not having a good feel for turns to resistance to inductance, this is probably going to be a challenge with a few failures.

This 3 pickup mustang with a jaguar switching is a dream of mine. Hope it works well. i want to do it some day

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Last edited: Feb 01, 2024 13:24:18

Saturday night after a few...
I am still trying to grasp what you are going to do.
Combine the coil wind between a jazzmaster pole design along with a humbucker?
Is this going to be a split coil somewhere as well?

Goals here are what?

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Last edited: Feb 01, 2024 03:01:12

Tqi wrote:

Shame on me for double posting, but this arrived and I think it's super neat.

Obviously for a Jazzmaster, the opposite would have been more useful, since as mentioned above - I've fallen back to Jaguar knobs out of practicality. But since that's.. physically impossible, this is still cool. And I like how simple it is.

Where did you find that?

The artist formerly known as: Synchro

When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.

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Last edited: Feb 01, 2024 13:19:34

Just did a mod to my basement pedal board.
This was my first design built and has become my secondary board.
I needed drop slots for the patch chords and power lines. Also needed a custom patch chord length.
It's super clean now!

Today I got a new Catalinbread Topanga Burnside. It's really nice and not heard a lot here on SG101 about it.
The Reverb is excellent, but now with 18v, great headroom.
The built in Tremolo circuit is very cool but not really vintage. It only enters the Reverb mix on the trails.
So it's very expressive and interesting to play with.

Now this pedal board has 4 Reverbs all very different.

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