bjoish
Joined: Jul 06, 2010
Posts: 596
Stockholm
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Posted on Sep 10 2014 02:08 AM
JObeast wrote:
Bjorn,
I got my kit in the mail the other day! Stoked!
But a few questions before I begin installing it in a vintage Craftsman 18" toolbox:
I am ignorant about polarity of the power jack, with its 3 lugs. I misremembered the required polarity today when I bought a 12v/1A switching-type regulated supply, & got one with a positive center. So I will need to reverse the leads on the jack. Can you indicate which lug is which?
I think the best thing to make sure you got the polarity right is to connect the power supply to the jack (before connecting to the board) and measure the voltage on the 3 lugs.
Do you recommend a power-interrupt switch between the power jack and the 9v input?
I think it is convenient, but its up to you
Is the pair of solder points next to the power input for an LED as power indicator? I am not sure of the symbol's meaning.
Yes thats right. Its optional.
Also, I have a spare footswitch with 1/4" plug. Can you show how to wire it into the Reverb return as it is indicated on the diagram? It's a short-circuit, right? I am a circuit-building infant, so please be patient with me.
No problem. It depends on what type of footswitch you got.
Toggle or momentary. I think you will prefer toggle, otherwise you will need keep your foot on the switch while playing.
Since the return-signal from the pan goes thru the foot switch cable you will need a shielded cable.
I saw above that the Surfgitar who built his kit into a red metal toolbox, has fairly long leads between the control pots and jacks mounted on the lid and the board mounted on the tool tray. Weighing the advantages of mounting the board on the tray-as-chassis:
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lots of air space & conductance of all the metal to dissipate heat, & less vibration/shock there than in the lid.
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aren't long leads prone to noise? Doesn't movement of leads upon opening/closing lid degrade solder joints?
Yes, you are right. I recommend short wires to reduce the risk for hum.
Since the toolbox is in metal you got good shielding there and I think you will get good results either way. I dont think the movement will degrade the solder joints.
Good luck with your build!
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bjoish
Joined: Jul 06, 2010
Posts: 596
Stockholm
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Posted on Sep 10 2014 02:12 AM
26Alpha20 wrote:
Saw some of these at Ace hardware stores. Thought you guys who have been using tool boxes would be interested in a cool looking enclosure.
Rocking boxes
Cool !!!
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Big_Ryan
Joined: May 01, 2011
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San Diego
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Posted on Sep 10 2014 03:15 AM
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crmartin
Joined: Jul 19, 2010
Posts: 36
Western NY
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Posted on Sep 10 2014 02:45 PM
bjoish wrote:
26Alpha20 wrote:
Saw some of these at Ace hardware stores. Thought you guys who have been using tool boxes would be interested in a cool looking enclosure.
Rocking boxes
Cool !!!
Cool boxes, but they are only 16" wide, not quite wide enough for a long spring pan.
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JObeast
Joined: Jul 24, 2012
Posts: 2762
Finknabad, Squinkistan
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Posted on Sep 10 2014 09:49 PM
I wrote:
Also, I have a spare footswitch with 1/4" plug. Can you show how to wire it into the Reverb return as it is indicated on the diagram? It's a short-circuit, right? I am a circuit-building infant, so please be patient with me.
Bjorn replied:
No problem. It depends on what type of footswitch you got.
Toggle or momentary. I think you will prefer toggle, otherwise you will need keep your foot on the switch while playing.
Since the return-signal from the pan goes thru the foot switch cable you will need a shielded cable.
My rejoinder:
So the musical signal goes all the way up the cable of the f/s? That would seriously degrade it, I would think. I am thinking this should be an always-on device, in that case.
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LaFleur
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Posts: 525
Leipzig
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Posted on Sep 11 2014 01:17 AM
Yeah I also don't like it cause the one from the Fender Tank is also picking up a lot of hum. Whats about a true bypass switch or something in the powersection? Should be much easier in the FET Version compared to the tube.
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bjoish
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Posts: 596
Stockholm
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Posted on Sep 11 2014 02:20 AM
LaFleur wrote:
Yeah I also don't like it cause the one from the Fender Tank is also picking up a lot of hum. Whats about a true bypass switch or something in the powersection? Should be much easier in the FET Version compared to the tube.
Yes, this is the way Fender designed it 50 years ago
I suppose Fender found this to be a simple solution and since the impedance is just 2.5kohm the footswitch-cable should be less prone to pick up hum than a guitar cable.
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26Alpha20
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Posted on Sep 11 2014 07:30 AM
crmartin wrote:
bjoish wrote:
26Alpha20 wrote:
Saw some of these at Ace hardware stores. Thought you guys who have been using tool boxes would be interested in a cool looking enclosure.
Rocking boxes
Cool !!!
Cool boxes, but they are only 16" wide, not quite wide enough for a long spring pan.
Dang! I'm glad you measured!
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sonni
Joined: Nov 08, 2006
Posts: 80
Vienna, Austria
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Posted on Sep 11 2014 12:40 PM
bjoish wrote:
LaFleur wrote:
Yeah I also don't like it cause the one from the Fender Tank is also picking up a lot of hum. Whats about a true bypass switch or something in the powersection? Should be much easier in the FET Version compared to the tube.
Yes, this is the way Fender designed it 50 years ago
I suppose Fender found this to be a simple solution and since the impedance is just 2.5kohm the footswitch-cable should be less prone to pick up hum than a guitar cable.
quote should end here<
Ah! since that footswitch cable is one of the weak points of the Fender Reverb, what about starting here with a first little 'mod'?
with all the experience here in the forum, this reverb-machine can be easily be brought into the 'next generation'!
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wfoguy
Joined: Dec 11, 2011
Posts: 2122
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Posted on Sep 11 2014 05:08 PM
Where is the best place to buy pans in the USA? What are your thoughts on installing several different pans and just changing the input cable to provide different sounds? Is that a waste of time? I'm not putting mine together until summer is over but my mind is headed towards overdrive with ideas.
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JObeast
Joined: Jul 24, 2012
Posts: 2762
Finknabad, Squinkistan
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Posted on Sep 11 2014 09:41 PM
18" seems to be the standard for vintage toolboxes, the kind you can get for $10 on Cl. Old is better. Made w/better metal, plus there is rust and ding patina.
26Alpha20 wrote:
crmartin wrote:
bjoish wrote:
26Alpha20 wrote:
Saw some of these at Ace hardware stores. Thought you guys who have been using tool boxes would be interested in a cool looking enclosure.
Rocking boxes
Cool !!!
Cool boxes, but they are only 16" wide, not quite wide enough for a long spring pan.
Dang! I'm glad you measured!
— Squink Out!
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bjoish
Joined: Jul 06, 2010
Posts: 596
Stockholm
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Posted on Sep 12 2014 11:45 AM
wfoguy wrote:
Where is the best place to buy pans in the USA? What are your thoughts on installing several different pans and just changing the input cable to provide different sounds? Is that a waste of time? I'm not putting mine together until summer is over but my mind is headed towards overdrive with ideas.
I think Amplifiedparts is good place for reverb tanks, since they both have Mod and Accutronics.
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bjoish
Joined: Jul 06, 2010
Posts: 596
Stockholm
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Posted on Sep 12 2014 11:49 AM
sonni wrote:
Ah! since that footswitch cable is one of the weak points of the Fender Reverb, what about starting here with a first little 'mod'?
with all the experience here in the forum, this reverb-machine can be easily be brought into the 'next generation'!
Good idea, maybe a wireless footswitch
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Surf_Skater
Joined: Sep 06, 2012
Posts: 1300
Lawrenceville , GA
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Posted on Sep 12 2014 08:22 PM
bjoish wrote:
sonni wrote:
Ah! since that footswitch cable is one of the weak points of the Fender Reverb, what about starting here with a first little 'mod'?
with all the experience here in the forum, this reverb-machine can be easily be brought into the 'next generation'!
Good idea, maybe a wireless footswitch
Why would you want to turn off the reverb?
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JObeast
Joined: Jul 24, 2012
Posts: 2762
Finknabad, Squinkistan
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Posted on Sep 12 2014 10:05 PM
Hej Bjorn,
I am building my kit into an old Craftsman toolbox, with the board mounted to the underside of the lid and the tank secured to the floor of the box with cork flooring and a cardboard pad, stuck with velcro.
I haven't got to the controls and jacks yet, but I recall you said something about printable graphics for a control panel. Can you send a pdf of that that I can take to a printer?
Thanks!
— Squink Out!
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LeeVanCleef
Joined: Oct 05, 2011
Posts: 744
France
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Posted on Sep 13 2014 07:10 AM
JObeast, take a look at the bottom of this pdf.
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bjoish
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Posts: 596
Stockholm
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Posted on Sep 13 2014 10:34 AM
Here is a file you can open with Inkscape.
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JObeast
Joined: Jul 24, 2012
Posts: 2762
Finknabad, Squinkistan
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Posted on Sep 13 2014 11:36 AM
thanks, Bjorn, but Inskscape is a whole big kettle of fish to get into, and I seriously doubt any local copy shop is going to be able to use it. I had to download the 77MB app for 1/2 hr and the graphic won't open in it, but in "X11" instead. ISn't there a pdf ready to print someplace?
— Squink Out!
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Ariel
Joined: Aug 29, 2009
Posts: 1556
Israel
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Posted on Sep 13 2014 01:42 PM
JObeast wrote:
ISn't there a pdf ready to print someplace?
There you go:
DOWNLOAD PDF
I encourage to verify the final size with the print shop.
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JObeast
Joined: Jul 24, 2012
Posts: 2762
Finknabad, Squinkistan
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Posted on Sep 13 2014 10:56 PM
I figured out how to save it as a pdf, scaled down to 8.5 x 11" and got it printed on adhesive clear stuff.
Then I spent a couple hours hunting down the last parts i needed – an LED and a bracket for mounting the RCA plugs, & rubber speaker feet.
Got home and set about final assembly, sanding a space (slightly too long!) for the panel, drilling out the holes, mounting the hardware, then soldering all the leads.
Plugged it in – light on! Plugged in a guitar – Reverb! Drip!
— Squink Out!
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