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Tavo that 1x15 Blondeshell will be in my future as well as a Seltzerado!

Either you surf, or you fight.

always ready to make another combo! Big Grin

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okay...

I tried it in front of my signal chain, this time with the large bobbin single coils on my TKsmith guitar..
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still clipped at 9volts.. meaning it has as sharp high end unmusical snap to the sound when the tone is near max and dwell is past 3 0clock with mix above 2 oclock(does not exist with regular fender single coils) with these pickups and with filtertrons.. note: I pick hard, use 11g strings, 45watt amps with 212 or 115 cab, and .60-70mm picks and dont play at bedroom volume unless its after 11pm and the kids are asleep. So if you are using 9gauge strings and strumming through a 5 watt champ, I'm thinkin you'll never hear what I'm garbling about.

BUT ...big BUT the problem is completely solved with an 18volt power supply, headroom jumps up with clean and clear attack.
Big Grin Big Grin Yes
next I'll try the 12volt setting on my voodoolabs since I'm not going to use that big dumb wallwart on my pedal board.

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Last edited: Apr 10, 2014 19:07:24

You are aware that there are 18V cables available for the VoodooLab power supplies? Takes up 2 slots on the supply, though. I use them for the Fulltone FullDrive2 and the Xotic EP booster, and YES, it makes a huge difference. I fire up every pedal with 18V if they can handle it and highly recommend doing this!

The Hicadoolas

Last edited: Apr 11, 2014 00:47:00

hah I didnt think about that, forgot it was an option Smile

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Ha, and I was afraid to point that out in the first place Wink
Here's a link. Cheers!

The Hicadoolas

thanks I already have the Voodoolabs pedalplus2 image

I'm gonna grab the iso5 to go along with it since I have the pedaltrain grande.
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Big_Ryan wrote:

i got to A/B the topanga and FRV-1 at practice yesterday and im still on the fence

the topanga doesn't have the ice pick high ringing problem but the drips don't cut through the mix all that great

How's the fence now?

I've picked one up, and have been comparing it to my Reissue Tank so will probably end up writing a review at some point.

I was a little disappointed by the lack of full-on splashy, drippy, bouncy, springyness for more OTT sounds, but it's definitely one of the best spring reverb pedals out there. I agree with what was said earlier about the 'separation' being just right. Not too little like the FRV-1, but not too much like my previous favourites the Flint and RV-7. It has an excellent 'physical' feel to it as a result, which is great.

Now I have an actual tank I can understand why some of you guys are never satisfied by digital pedals, but for something (comparatively) cheaper, tiny, 9-18v, offers more versatility - 100% wet mix, secret modulation mode, volume control and option for a buffered mode with trails - it's definitely worth a look.

dohhhh I found out the secret easter egg, yeaaa!!
still honeymoonin but its nice at 18v on the little board,at the end of the signal chain.. worked well this last weekends gig
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhnFd6XBKAU

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Last edited: Apr 14, 2014 23:42:38

i was in studio using it over the weekend and though i haven't officially laid down my tracks yet i think i am going to use the topanga over the frv, im judging it strictly on how i like the splashes when i palm mute and im preferring the topanga just for that

once i start working on my tracks in detail i might change my mind or go back and forth, im running it on 18v now and i dont notice that much of a difference but im sure its there

Snufkino wrote:

Big_Ryan wrote:

i got to A/B the topanga and FRV-1 at practice yesterday and im still on the fence

the topanga doesn't have the ice pick high ringing problem but the drips don't cut through the mix all that great

How's the fence now?

I've picked one up, and have been comparing it to my Reissue Tank so will probably end up writing a review at some point.

I was a little disappointed by the lack of full-on splashy, drippy, bouncy, springyness for more OTT sounds, but it's definitely one of the best spring reverb pedals out there. I agree with what was said earlier about the 'separation' being just right. Not too little like the FRV-1, but not too much like my previous favourites the Flint and RV-7. It has an excellent 'physical' feel to it as a result, which is great.

Now I have an actual tank I can understand why some of you guys are never satisfied by digital pedals, but for something (comparatively) cheaper, tiny, 9-18v, offers more versatility - 100% wet mix, secret modulation mode, volume control and option for a buffered mode with trails - it's definitely worth a look.

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That's interesting. I remember the FRV-1 being a bit better than bringing out the drip with palm mutes than the Topanga, though it was a couple of years ago I had one. I hope a few comparison demo's start to surface.

I'm not really hearing a difference at 18v either (but could with the Belle Epoch). I think it comes into it's own when you crank the volume up and hit it with a lot of signal then it reacts similarly to a tank in that it dirties up a little in a nice, metallic way.

So comparing it side by side with my Fender tank again, and it's only really lacking in that OTT department. The tank has an up-front 'attack' with the splash that sounds great for OTT palm muting at higher (666 style) settings, which the Topanga just can't quite do. Other than that, it's favouring very well in terms of how it sounds, feels and reacts. And while I like those OTT sounds, it's not a NEED, so if I sell the tank it wouldn't feel like I'm compromising too much.

Snufkino wrote:

That's interesting. I remember the FRV-1 being a bit better than bringing out the drip with palm mutes than the Topanga, though it was a couple of years ago I had one. I hope a few comparison demo's start to surface.

I'm not really hearing a difference at 18v either (but could with the Belle Epoch). I think it comes into it's own when you crank the volume up and hit it with a lot of signal then it reacts similarly to a tank in that it dirties up a little in a nice, metallic way.

So comparing it side by side with my Fender tank again, and it's only really lacking in that OTT department. The tank has an up-front 'attack' with the splash that sounds great for OTT palm muting at higher (666 style) settings, which the Topanga just can't quite do. Other than that, it's favouring very well in terms of how it sounds, feels and reacts. And while I like those OTT sounds, it's not a NEED, so if I sell the tank it wouldn't feel like I'm compromising too much.

the problem w the FRV-1 is that is has a crappy AD/DA converter as it turns your entire analog dry signal to 1's and 0's along with the wet signal.. this isnt cool, not one bit. Smile The Topanga is mindful of your guitar original signal.

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I'm about to order a Topanga and a Belle Epoch, could you tell me some things about the 9v vs 18v power? I currently use a 1SPOT and I'd really like to refrain from buying a $200 power unit. Would an average 18v power supply bought from the local electronics store do the job? Could I daisy-chain both Catalinbread pedals on one such power supply unit? Could I buy one more 1SPOT and use one outlet of each into one power plug and get 18v?

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RaistMagus wrote:

could you tell me some things about the 9v vs 18v power?

I don't own the Topanga, but all pedals that 'could' be run at 18V 'should' be run at 18V, IMHO. You get more headroom and the pedals seem to work smoother. I doubt that there is a noticable difference at low volume settings, but as soon as you are at live volume in a band setup you will be thankful for the more powerful tone.

RaistMagus wrote:

Would an average 18v power supply bought from the local electronics store do the job?

Yes, but ensure they supply enough mA for your pedal. Also, these electronic store power supplies sometimes don't have a proper isolation, as they are not supposed to be used with audio devices. You might get some interferences/humming.

RaistMagus wrote:

Could I daisy-chain both Catalinbread pedals on one such power supply unit?

Yes, if the power supply has enough mA for both units. Again, this might cause interference problems.

RaistMagus wrote:

Could I buy one more 1SPOT and use one outlet of each into one power plug and get 18v?

This is what you do with VoodooLab power supplies. You simply combine 2 outlets to one with a Y cable to get the power doubled. I do not know if this applies for the 1-spot supplies as well...and I wouldn' t try it, as it could fry the pedal Wink

The Hicadoolas

Last edited: Apr 16, 2014 02:47:38

Thanks SanchoPansen, I'm going to gig with these pedals and we do play loud so I'll be needing the 18v. Do you guys have any experience with the chinese power supplies (copying the voodoo labs power supply)?

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This is one of the best power supplies you can get on our side of the pond for a reasonable price!

The Hicadoolas

How about this?

http://www.diago.co.uk/adaptors /18v.html

It seems too good to be true

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I'm not sure that this device provides enough power. 30 mA is not much for a time based pedal. The FRV-1 needs 37 mA, but I can't find the specs for the Topanga?!

The Hicadoolas

Last edited: Apr 16, 2014 04:38:50

The Belle Epoch and the Topanga require 70mA each to operate. The adaptor was too good to be true, indeed.

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I ordered the Dunlop wall wart yesterday. It's 1000ma.

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