Anthem of the Surf Nation

DNAdude

Joined: Aug 01, 2008
Posts: 404
North Carolina
United States

Posted on Jul 27 2011 06:24 AM

Pre 1994 - Pipeline
1994 to around now - Miserlou
Say...from 2015 or so onward (give it time) - Ewa on the Beach

Okay, so if I'm forced to pick just one, I go with Pipeline.

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Ralph
The Storm Surfers

Be at one with the universe. If you can't do that, at least be at one with your guitar.

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aqualadius

Joined: Aug 30, 2010
Posts: 414
Charlotte, NC
United States

Posted on Jul 27 2011 08:56 AM

ok everyone is gonna hate this cause it's not even surf, but IMO it's the precursor and one of the great songs covered by surf bands right from the beginnning. I have no doubt this is why Eddie Bertrand was pushing the top of his strings in little brown jug to try and emulate the bigsby sound.

-----> Moovin' N' Groovin' by Duane Eddy

Wikipedia Excerpt:
Eddy devised a technique of playing lead on his guitar's bass strings to produce a low, reverberant "twangy" sound. In November 1957, Eddy recorded an instrumental, "Moovin' n' Groovin'", co-written by Eddy and Hazlewood. As the Phoenix studio had no echo chamber, Hazlewood bought a 2,000 gallon water storage tank which he used as an echo chamber to accentuate the "twangy" guitar sound. Eddy signed a contract with Philadelphia-based Jamie Records. "Moovin' n' Groovin'" reached #72 on the Hot 100 in early 1958; the opening riff was copied a few years later by The Beach Boys on "Surfin' U.S.A.".[6] For the follow-up, "Rebel-'Rouser", the record featured overdubbed saxophone by Los Angeles session musician Gil Bernal and yells and handclaps by doo-wop group The Rivingtons.[3][7] The tune became Eddy's big, breakthrough hit, reaching #6 on the chart.

Ok, let the flames begin.

Aqualadius

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Jeremy

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Fady

Joined: Mar 07, 2010
Posts: 2265
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Posted on Jul 27 2011 11:14 AM

So prolly not the anthem, but no denying the influence that had on what followed.

Maybe another thread to start - what was the earliest surf sound in a song. You'd have to drop the vocals on this one, but no doubt loads of what became the first wave can be heard in this.

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Fady

El Mirage @ ReverbNation

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spskins

Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 3780
tn
United States

Posted on Jul 27 2011 11:27 PM

The Tiki world has to do with much more than just music, ours is all about music. No need to pick an anthem.
*I still can't get over the post that says Pipeline doesn't have a surf beat.
huh?

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Ariel

Joined: Aug 29, 2009
Posts: 1556
Israel
Israel

Posted on Jul 28 2011 08:24 AM

spskins wrote:

*I still can't get over the post that says Pipeline
doesn't have a surf beat.
huh?

That was me
Whoops.
I guess I remembered it as a more straight rock beat.
huh indeed

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jonfender

Joined: Mar 09, 2011
Posts: 273
Melbourne FL USA

Posted on Jul 28 2011 10:08 AM

Regarding "Pipeline", Could it be the "sloppy drumming" that is really NOT sloppy at all ! On the stereo version, I found it very helpful to try & "bring up the drums" or (if you have an EQ) enhance their presence somewhat, and they "perfectly" become the 5th instrument. They are "way down" in the mono 45, so you'll most likely need the stereo version of this. Bob Welch is TOPS !!

Last edited: Jul 28, 2011 10:10:18

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aqualadius

Joined: Aug 30, 2010
Posts: 414
Charlotte, NC
United States

Posted on Jul 29 2011 09:44 PM

That's so funny I was listening to that today thinking that's definitely a surf beat, just a lot of fills. I mean, I don't think that the surf anthem has to be the original surf song which is probably what my posts look like, but I think more like what represents the whole surf genre in a song. You can't deny the past, Lee Hazelwood was instrumental in the origin and wrote the timeless classics again and again. But truly, there are lots of current songs that meet this criteria as well. Why would we go with Miserlou or pipeline unless it was the history?

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JObeast

Joined: Jul 24, 2012
Posts: 2762
Finknabad, Squinkistan
Turkmenistan

Posted on May 17 2013 03:11 AM

I think the concept of Anthem is different from 'quintessential' or 'seminal', etc. Anthems are written, or chosen/adapted as aural propaganda after the establishment of the entity. A surf anthem would have to be a sing-along like any other good propaganda piece (Check out the Soviet National Hymn of 1944-1991 for a signal piece of songcraft) and would inspire a sense of shared identity, purpose and destiny. That's a tall order.

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Noel

Joined: Mar 15, 2011
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Posted on May 17 2013 09:05 AM

JObeast wrote:

I think the concept of Anthem is different from 'quintessential' or 'seminal', etc. Anthems are written, or chosen/adapted as aural propaganda after the establishment of the entity. A surf anthem would have to be a sing-along like any other good propaganda piece (Check out the Soviet National Hymn of 1944-1991 for a signal piece of songcraft) and would inspire a sense of shared identity, purpose and destiny. That's a tall order.

As I recall, "Surfin' USA" had just that effect on us kids back when it came out, even if all some of us could do was put on water skis and try to surf the wake. It did make us want to go surfing. And, as I also remember it, we sang along with it when it came on the radio. I still sing along to it! It's simply a great song.

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zenin

Joined: Apr 09, 2010
Posts: 5

Posted on May 24 2013 08:29 AM

Even though it not a my all time favorite, but still one of the greatest Surf tracks EVER! This song has done for Surf music via sheer saturation over 95% of the population of planet earth it would have to be -- WipeOut

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Crawdad

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Posts: 23
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Posted on Jun 14 2013 10:54 PM

Off the top of my head, if somebody wanted to know what surf music sounded like, I'm sure I'd say "Pipeline", "Misrlou" or "Walk Don't Run," even if WDR is not technically pure surf, as some suggest.

Growing up back in the day, I had Dick Dale's first LP, some Beach Boys and some Ventures. The real attraction for me was the guitar SOUND, the reverb, the energy and the melodies.

I've always been a fan of the instrumental and especially the guitar instrumental. Wild Weekend, Out Of Limits, Tequila, Apache and Sleepwalk are still favorites of mine. I'm not really a surf purist--just like guitar instrumentals--especially the classics. I understand the POV of the purist, but I just see the whole genre as guitar instrumentals and that works for me.

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DNAdude Joined: Aug 01, 2008 Posts: 404 North Carolina	Posted on Jul 27 2011 06:24 AM Pre 1994 - Pipeline 1994 to around now - Miserlou Say...from 2015 or so onward (give it time) - Ewa on the Beach Okay, so if I'm forced to pick just one, I go with Pipeline. — Ralph The Storm Surfers Be at one with the universe. If you can't do that, at least be at one with your guitar. Top
aqualadius Joined: Aug 30, 2010 Posts: 414 Charlotte, NC	Posted on Jul 27 2011 08:56 AM ok everyone is gonna hate this cause it's not even surf, but IMO it's the precursor and one of the great songs covered by surf bands right from the beginnning. I have no doubt this is why Eddie Bertrand was pushing the top of his strings in little brown jug to try and emulate the bigsby sound. -----> Moovin' N' Groovin' by Duane Eddy Wikipedia Excerpt: Eddy devised a technique of playing lead on his guitar's bass strings to produce a low, reverberant "twangy" sound. In November 1957, Eddy recorded an instrumental, "Moovin' n' Groovin'", co-written by Eddy and Hazlewood. As the Phoenix studio had no echo chamber, Hazlewood bought a 2,000 gallon water storage tank which he used as an echo chamber to accentuate the "twangy" guitar sound. Eddy signed a contract with Philadelphia-based Jamie Records. "Moovin' n' Groovin'" reached #72 on the Hot 100 in early 1958; the opening riff was copied a few years later by The Beach Boys on "Surfin' U.S.A.".[6] For the follow-up, "Rebel-'Rouser", the record featured overdubbed saxophone by Los Angeles session musician Gil Bernal and yells and handclaps by doo-wop group The Rivingtons.[3][7] The tune became Eddy's big, breakthrough hit, reaching #6 on the chart. Ok, let the flames begin. Aqualadius — Jeremy Top
Fady Joined: Mar 07, 2010 Posts: 2265 North Carolina	Posted on Jul 27 2011 11:14 AM So prolly not the anthem, but no denying the influence that had on what followed. Maybe another thread to start - what was the earliest surf sound in a song. You'd have to drop the vocals on this one, but no doubt loads of what became the first wave can be heard in this. — Fady El Mirage @ ReverbNation Top
spskins Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 3780 tn	Posted on Jul 27 2011 11:27 PM The Tiki world has to do with much more than just music, ours is all about music. No need to pick an anthem. *I still can't get over the post that says Pipeline doesn't have a surf beat. huh? — http://www.satanspilgrims.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Satans-Pilgrims/8210228553 https://satanspilgrims.bandcamp.com/ http://www.surfyindustries.com Top
Ariel Joined: Aug 29, 2009 Posts: 1556 Israel	Posted on Jul 28 2011 08:24 AM spskins wrote: *I still can't get over the post that says Pipeline doesn't have a surf beat. huh? That was me Whoops. I guess I remembered it as a more straight rock beat. huh indeed Top
jonfender Joined: Mar 09, 2011 Posts: 273 Melbourne FL USA	Posted on Jul 28 2011 10:08 AM Regarding "Pipeline", Could it be the "sloppy drumming" that is really NOT sloppy at all ! On the stereo version, I found it very helpful to try & "bring up the drums" or (if you have an EQ) enhance their presence somewhat, and they "perfectly" become the 5th instrument. They are "way down" in the mono 45, so you'll most likely need the stereo version of this. Bob Welch is TOPS !! Last edited: Jul 28, 2011 10:10:18 Top
aqualadius Joined: Aug 30, 2010 Posts: 414 Charlotte, NC	Posted on Jul 29 2011 09:44 PM That's so funny I was listening to that today thinking that's definitely a surf beat, just a lot of fills. I mean, I don't think that the surf anthem has to be the original surf song which is probably what my posts look like, but I think more like what represents the whole surf genre in a song. You can't deny the past, Lee Hazelwood was instrumental in the origin and wrote the timeless classics again and again. But truly, there are lots of current songs that meet this criteria as well. Why would we go with Miserlou or pipeline unless it was the history? — Jeremy Top
JObeast Joined: Jul 24, 2012 Posts: 2762 Finknabad, Squinkistan	Posted on May 17 2013 03:11 AM I think the concept of Anthem is different from 'quintessential' or 'seminal', etc. Anthems are written, or chosen/adapted as aural propaganda after the establishment of the entity. A surf anthem would have to be a sing-along like any other good propaganda piece (Check out the Soviet National Hymn of 1944-1991 for a signal piece of songcraft) and would inspire a sense of shared identity, purpose and destiny. That's a tall order. — Squink Out! Top
Noel Joined: Mar 15, 2011 Posts: 8528 Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.	Posted on May 17 2013 09:05 AM JObeast wrote: I think the concept of Anthem is different from 'quintessential' or 'seminal', etc. Anthems are written, or chosen/adapted as aural propaganda after the establishment of the entity. A surf anthem would have to be a sing-along like any other good propaganda piece (Check out the Soviet National Hymn of 1944-1991 for a signal piece of songcraft) and would inspire a sense of shared identity, purpose and destiny. That's a tall order. As I recall, "Surfin' USA" had just that effect on us kids back when it came out, even if all some of us could do was put on water skis and try to surf the wake. It did make us want to go surfing. And, as I also remember it, we sang along with it when it came on the radio. I still sing along to it! It's simply a great song. — This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got. Top
zenin Joined: Apr 09, 2010 Posts: 5	Posted on May 24 2013 08:29 AM Even though it not a my all time favorite, but still one of the greatest Surf tracks EVER! This song has done for Surf music via sheer saturation over 95% of the population of planet earth it would have to be -- WipeOut Top
Crawdad Joined: Apr 17, 2013 Posts: 23	Posted on Jun 14 2013 10:54 PM Off the top of my head, if somebody wanted to know what surf music sounded like, I'm sure I'd say "Pipeline", "Misrlou" or "Walk Don't Run," even if WDR is not technically pure surf, as some suggest. Growing up back in the day, I had Dick Dale's first LP, some Beach Boys and some Ventures. The real attraction for me was the guitar SOUND, the reverb, the energy and the melodies. I've always been a fan of the instrumental and especially the guitar instrumental. Wild Weekend, Out Of Limits, Tequila, Apache and Sleepwalk are still favorites of mine. I'm not really a surf purist--just like guitar instrumentals--especially the classics. I understand the POV of the purist, but I just see the whole genre as guitar instrumentals and that works for me. Top

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