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First off let me say this is a great forum I stumbled upon!

I know DD is a God when it comes to surf music and I understand and appreciate everything he's done for surf(or music in general), and he is the ultimate bad ass and all that; but I just don't dig his music. For one he is really sloppy, his tone is horrible, and his songs all sound the same.
Am I missing something? Is there a live album that captures a better DD than what Ive heard?

You need to listen to his early stuff, not the 90's stuff, to get a good perspective on his career and accomplishments.

As for his tone, that is the one thing that is still awesome. It's still monsterous and huge...Dual Showmans and reverb baby! Have you ever seen him live? (Bring ear plugs).

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I dont know, I love his early stuff and his new stuff. I was actually listening to Calling up Spirits on my way to work today because I hadn't heard it in a while and wanted to give it an objective listen(a lot of people knock it-see reverb central review Wink ) Its got it's strong points as well as its possibly weaker points, but he does what he wants.....and good for him.

He seems to be asserting himself as an artist and individualist, which is great in a genre where so many other musicians play their own brand of surf and do it so well. Dick is Dick, some love him, some don't. For that reason, to me, he is more than 'that guy that played miserlou' or even the 'king of the surf guitar' he is a true individualist and artist working with what he has and doing what he wants.

I'm with Bryan, see him live. Excellent experience for me at a young age, totally kicks ass! Tone is monsterous, you can feel and hear the air being moved by his cabinets! Seriously! Very Happy

I have a profound respect for Dick Dale an all he has done for surf music/ and the evolution of Fender products. That being said I preffer listening to many surf groups over his. Also, everytime I hear Misorlou I want to cringe. I hate the fact that it is the one of the few main stream surf songs.

Dick started a sound and vibe. He is bad ass. Anybody doing any fast (double, tremolo,whatever you want to call it) picking is doin Dicks thing.
I am not a big fan of his sound, but in the context of miserlou it is great! It is not about nuance. There are a lot of differing opinions here (SG101), and that makes it a lot more interesting to hang around. For me, I think Reverb is over-used and that Brownface amps are harsh, (That alone ought to start a major flame war)

Back to Dick, he is a VERY nice guy, and deserves to be a bit full of himself. And I agree... a creative individual doin' it his way.

Ya gotta see him live at LEAST once. It’ll probably alter your perception, specially if you have him sign something.

Tom

THe NEpTuNeS

Dick Dale's 60's instrumentals are great. He set a standard early on and a lot of the burgeoning bands and guitar players of that era emulated his sound and style. He's known for the heavy staccato picked stuff, but some of his other stuff like "Surfin Rebel" or "Tidal Wave" is just as big and powerful, IMO. I don't really dig his modern stuff and haven't seen him live since 93...so can't really comment on that.

I'm not a big Dick Dale fan. I've heard his earlier stuff. My gripe isn't with the tone, but the songs themselves. I like some stuff and I think some stuff is so so. I do love California Sun though, probably the only one on this board.

JakeDobner
I'm not a big Dick Dale fan. I've heard his earlier stuff. My gripe isn't with the tone, but the songs themselves. I like some stuff and I think some stuff is so so. I do love California Sun though, probably the only one on this board.

your are not alone, i really like california sun also...carol

www.surfintheeye.com

I like the song & the sun...

The Wedge is one of my favorites...

Shocked Shocked Shocked wow--blow my mind. welcome to the growing family of surf guitar 101. now i gotta talk bad to ya. DD is not a god--DD is god! if you knew about his bout with cancer in the 60s, his martial arts prowess, his pilotting abilities----the list goes on and on.. the guy is my personal hero! that old man has done more for fender and surf and individualism than anyone i know. he does work for the surfriders foundation ---- hell i don't know what else he's into! have you seen him live? the guy is a fucking tsunami---an earthquake---a volcanic eruption---he is a human nuclear bomb on stage!!!!!!!! do you surf? that is what it feels like on a wave----guitar roaring==bass pounding===drums thundering Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation i'm an old man and have seen most everybody and that precious dear old man gives me one big rush like no other performer. his sound is so pure---he says 'TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT" AND THATS THE WAY IT IS Cool Cool Cool he is the father of loud and the king of the surf guitar..... welcome to our little band of crazies!!!!! PEACE

surfdaddy
Shocked Shocked Shocked wow--blow my mind. welcome to the growing family of surf guitar 101. now i gotta talk bad to ya. DD is not a god--DD is god! if you knew about his bout with cancer in the 60s, his martial arts prowess, his pilotting abilities----the list goes on and on.. the guy is my personal hero! that old man has done more for fender and surf and individualism than anyone i know. he does work for the surfriders foundation ---- hell i don't know what else he's into! have you seen him live? the guy is a fucking tsunami---an earthquake---a volcanic eruption---he is a human nuclear bomb on stage!!!!!!!! do you surf? that is what it feels like on a wave----guitar roaring==bass pounding===drums thundering Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation i'm an old man and have seen most everybody and that precious dear old man gives me one big rush like no other performer. his sound is so pure---he says 'TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT" AND THATS THE WAY IT IS Cool Cool Cool he is the father of loud and the king of the surf guitar..... welcome to our little band of crazies!!!!! PEACE

So what you are saying is I need to buy Microsoft Flight Simulator and rent a Bruce Lee movie and then I will be a god of surf rock?

Rolling Eyes no because you ain't dick dale nor am i. technological fakery will not get anyone to DD.s place. he is where and what he is because that is where he put himself. he is the real thing. justmy humble opinion. Very Happy peace jakedobner!

I respect DD for what he did early in his career & how he has managed to hang in there & even reinvent himself. He is a talented musician who plays other insturments besides the guitar. he doesnt smoke or do drugs. He is a savy business man and a doting father to his son Jimmy who is is obviously very proud of.

I wish I knew more about Dick's cancer. Being a survivor myself I am curious as to the course of his treatment, did he lose his hair, how many rounds, did the cancer metastasize anywhere else, et cetera. I didn't know about Dick's cancer until after I had my own. I actually probably found out about it around this time last year. I wish Dick would publicize it more like Lance Armstrong. There is nobody on earth I look up to more than Lance.

I haven't updated in a long time...
I officially went into remission on September 12th. That marked my 1 year of diagnosis.

Like the man said, there's no accounting for taste - and as far as personal listening preferences go mine tend not to run towards DD. I have the greatest respect for his abilities and innovations, but its not what I usually put in the CD player.

Another vote here for seeing him live. It's a totally different experience than listening to a CD or LP. I think that's true for most bands, but for DD it's essential.

Don

Jake you should send an email to Dick about his cancer experience. He seems to answer every email he gets. I also wonder if it is talked about in the McParland biography?

Back on topic: Miserlou, Hava Nagila, Night Rider, The Wedge, The Victor, Banzai Washout, Taco Wagon, Shake and Stomp, Let's Go Trippin', Esperanza, Mexico, Riders in the Sky, Nitro...need I say more? Cool

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At least on his records he doesn't go into his "toxic waves" diatribe. Rolling Eyes

surfneptune
Anybody doing any fast (double, tremolo,whatever you want to call it) picking is doin Dicks thing.

Come on now, you can't be serious.....or do you really believe that statement? I'm not trying to start anything, but that claim is simply absurd.

I suppose Jimmy Bryant doesn't count...or Django Reinhart...or Eddie Lang...or Carl Kress and Dick McDonough....DD didn't invent "fast" picking...there were MANY players before him employing rapid alternate picking on the guitar....and doing it much cleaner than he'll ever hope to do....not to mention actually improvising strong melodic ideas over complex changes...IMO the melodic/harmonic content of DD's material is sorely lacking (but he definitely makes up for it with energy).

Just to be clear - I love DD....but it's definitely not "His" thing. Nothing he has ever played has even come close to pushing the limits of existing guitar technique...TONE? For sure! But not technique.

Josh
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