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I'm confused, why would somebody be ashamed of a 1000 +
surf cd collection.
alittle over the top yes, but ashamed Hell No.
Jeff(bigtikidude)
> How many surf music CDs (*or
> albums/tapes/complete MP3s) do you have
> in your collection?
>
> o None
> o 1-10
> o 11-50
> o 51-100
> o 101-250
> o 250+
> o I'm ashamed to admit, 1000+
On Thursday, August 12, 2004, at 01:27 PM, wrote:
> What is the current state of "Rock"
> music?
I already voted, but I wanted to toss in an opinion on this, as well.
I chose the Huey Lewis quote, as I felt it best fit my own feelings on
the subject. The heart is still beating. It's out there, and it's
alive. It's been kicked around, scratched, and beat on - but it's still
breathing. Biding it's time, somewhere outside the spotlight of popular
culture.
Rock and Roll has really had a hell of a time, in the past few years.
The recent loss of Ray Charles being just one example. (I still get
misty-eyed when I remember Joey Ramone is gone, too) but I'd like to
think that for every Ray Charles, and every Joey Ramone we've lost,
we've gained at least two more potential replacements, even if just by
osmosis. (I'm pretty sure that everybody here can name at least one
song, as being "the one" that made them want to pick up a guitar and do
something with it.)
While some will wring their hands, and declare "Rock is dead!" while
pointing to the festering behemoth, that currently passes for "pop
culture"... it's important to remember that the two are mutually
distinctive. Rock and Roll did not start out as pop phenomena - it
started out as a subculture.
And it wasn't exactly popular. Just playing it on the radio could get
your station picketed, or even worse - burnt to the ground.
Yes, after awhile, big industry found a way to tame it, corporatise it,
and finally brand & package it, but there have always been upheavals,
where the sound was reclaimed. (the punk movement of the 70's, for
example, was a deliberate harkening back to the early days, when you
didn't need a stadium, gold-sequined outfits and a laser show, just to
be considered a band)
Considering what's been happening to the pop mainstream recently, ( by
which, I refer to the tidal wave of cookie-cutter "celebrity stars
hired more for their looks than any actual talent, or bands riding
solely on shock value, or even the "songs" manufactured in-studio out
of racks of drum sequencers, and parts of someone else's old records)
it's probably no bad thing that Rock and Roll is defecting from the
crowd, once again.
It's not dying out, it's just returning to it's roots, as a musical
subculture. And, with the advent of online mp3 swapping, things are
actually better for Rock and Roll than they ever have been -
distribution of "the sound" has become as easy as point-and-click.
Anyone can record, press, and sell an album online. No need for
kickbacks, bribes, payola - and no need for a bloated Industry, which
wants 99.999% of the take.
Long after Big Industry's ruins have blown to dust, and the RIAA have
finally sued their single remaining customer into oblivion (for failure
to bow deeply enough, while purchasing), Rock and Roll will still be
out there. Living, breathing, and carrying on.
I'm happy to be a part of it.
-c*
Chris:
Awesome!...a very perceptive essay!
thanks for the input.
DP
--- Chris Sutor <> wrote:
>
> On Thursday, August 12, 2004, at 01:27 PM,
> wrote:
>
> > What is the current state of "Rock"
> > music?
>
> I already voted, but I wanted to toss in an opinion on
> this, as well.
>
> I chose the Huey Lewis quote, as I felt it best fit my
> own feelings on
> the subject. The heart is still beating. It's out there,
> and it's
> alive. It's been kicked around, scratched, and beat on -
> but it's still
> breathing. Biding it's time, somewhere outside the
> spotlight of popular
> culture.
>
> Rock and Roll has really had a hell of a time, in the
> past few years.
> The recent loss of Ray Charles being just one example. (I
> still get
> misty-eyed when I remember Joey Ramone is gone, too) but
> I'd like to
> think that for every Ray Charles, and every Joey Ramone
> we've lost,
> we've gained at least two more potential replacements,
> even if just by
> osmosis. (I'm pretty sure that everybody here can name at
> least one
> song, as being "the one" that made them want to pick up a
> guitar and do
> something with it.)
>
> While some will wring their hands, and declare "Rock is
> dead!" while
> pointing to the festering behemoth, that currently passes
> for "pop
> culture"... it's important to remember that the two are
> mutually
> distinctive. Rock and Roll did not start out as pop
> phenomena - it
> started out as a subculture.
>
> And it wasn't exactly popular. Just playing it on the
> radio could get
> your station picketed, or even worse - burnt to the
> ground.
>
> Yes, after awhile, big industry found a way to tame it,
> corporatise it,
> and finally brand & package it, but there have always
> been upheavals,
> where the sound was reclaimed. (the punk movement of the
> 70's, for
> example, was a deliberate harkening back to the early
> days, when you
> didn't need a stadium, gold-sequined outfits and a laser
> show, just to
> be considered a band)
>
> Considering what's been happening to the pop mainstream
> recently, ( by
> which, I refer to the tidal wave of cookie-cutter
> "celebrity stars
> hired more for their looks than any actual talent, or
> bands riding
> solely on shock value, or even the "songs" manufactured
> in-studio out
> of racks of drum sequencers, and parts of someone else's
> old records)
> it's probably no bad thing that Rock and Roll is
> defecting from the
> crowd, once again.
>
> It's not dying out, it's just returning to it's roots, as
> a musical
> subculture. And, with the advent of online mp3 swapping,
> things are
> actually better for Rock and Roll than they ever have
> been -
> distribution of "the sound" has become as easy as
> point-and-click.
> Anyone can record, press, and sell an album online. No
> need for
> kickbacks, bribes, payola - and no need for a bloated
> Industry, which
> wants 99.999% of the take.
>
> Long after Big Industry's ruins have blown to dust, and
> the RIAA have
> finally sued their single remaining customer into
> oblivion (for failure
> to bow deeply enough, while purchasing), Rock and Roll
> will still be
> out there. Living, breathing, and carrying on.
>
> I'm happy to be a part of it.
>
> -c*
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I think that would fall under "other strings" (along with
sitar, mandolin, ukelele, balilaika etc.)
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> I think that would fall under "other strings" (along with
> sitar, mandolin, ukelele, balilaika etc.)
I've got a banjo. Maybe I ought to break that sucker out and try
playing Miserlou on it.
I see, dp,
That's not good though. I mean there shouldn't be an umbrella category like
"other strings" cause there's a big dif between mandolin, sitar and banjo. Sitar
has shown up on a number of surf recordings. I think we should take a pole on
whether this pole needs to include more specifics!
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I think that would fall under "other strings" (along with
sitar, mandolin, ukelele, balilaika etc.)
:) dp
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> That's not good though. I mean there shouldn't be an
> umbrella category like "other strings" cause there's a
> big dif between mandolin, sitar and banjo. Sitar has
> shown up on a number of surf recordings. I think we
> should take a pole on whether this pole needs to include
> more specifics!
> -Marty
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> Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] New poll for SurfGuitar101
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> with
> sitar, mandolin, ukelele, balilaika etc.)
>
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> > o rhythm guitarist
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> > o bassist
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> > o saxophone
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> > o other horn
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> > o organist
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> > o turntables/"mixmaster"
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...wouldn't ocarina fall under "other woodwind"?
...clay flute, right?
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> > > > o 3rd (or more) guitarist
> > > > o bassist
> > > > o percussionist
> > > > o saxophone
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> > > > o trumpet
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> > > > o analog synthesizer player
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> > > > o theramin
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On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 11:39:01 -0000 "Shawn Martin" <>
writes:
> I've got a banjo. Maybe I ought to break that sucker out and try
> playing Miserlou on it.
> Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
> SurfGuitar101 group:
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> Should we stay with Yahoo Groups? Or
> would you prefer a more fancy-pants
> web-based forum like The Hypnotic IV has?
I think the best argument for staying an email list is this response.
I've been too busy to keep up, and now, sitting without a nework
connection, but with my email, I can catch up.
No web forum will ever replace that functionality.
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Steve Kalkwarf
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I must say it has been a bit surprising to see that peoples arguments
against a web forum seems to be based on their own personal
preferences/problems and not on what might benefit surf music in the
long run.
Klas / The Surfites
--- In , Steve Kalkwarf <steve@k...>
wrote:
> > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
> > SurfGuitar101 group:
> >
> > Should we stay with Yahoo Groups? Or
> > would you prefer a more fancy-pants
> > web-based forum like The Hypnotic IV has?
>
> I think the best argument for staying an email list is this
response.
> I've been too busy to keep up, and now, sitting without a nework
> connection, but with my email, I can catch up.
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Come on, Klas,
Sure, we're all self centered and into our own personal preferences but the
biggest reason no one is going to the new forum is because it hasn't been set
up. Start that danged forum already and stop whining to this list waiting for
someone to do it for you. Set one up and invite people. If it's as good a format
as you say, after a while it will be successful and will benefit surf music in
the long run. Until you do, you're just as into your own preferences / problems
as any of us.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: Klas Fjellgren
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 6:25 AM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: New poll for SurfGuitar101
I must say it has been a bit surprising to see that peoples arguments
against a web forum seems to be based on their own personal
preferences/problems and not on what might benefit surf music in the
long run.
Klas / The Surfites
--- In , Steve Kalkwarf <steve@k...>
wrote:
> > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
> > SurfGuitar101 group:
> >
> > Should we stay with Yahoo Groups? Or
> > would you prefer a more fancy-pants
> > web-based forum like The Hypnotic IV has?
>
> I think the best argument for staying an email list is this
response.
> I've been too busy to keep up, and now, sitting without a nework
> connection, but with my email, I can catch up.
>
> No web forum will ever replace that functionality.
>
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> Steve Kalkwarf
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What are you talking about? I have neither the webspace or the
knowledge to set up a web forum but Brian was willing to give it a
try if enough people supported the idea. As for personal preferences,
I do think the Yahoo list format is crap but the main reason I wanted
to see a web forum is because I believe it would attract more people
and attention to the scene.
!!!
--- In , "Marty Tippens"
<mctippens@e...> wrote:
> Come on, Klas,
> Sure, we're all self centered and into our own personal preferences
but the biggest reason no one is going to the new forum is because it
hasn't been set up. Start that danged forum already and stop whining
to this list waiting for someone to do it for you. Set one up and
invite people. If it's as good a format as you say, after a while it
will be successful and will benefit surf music in the long run. Until
you do, you're just as into your own preferences / problems as any of
us.
> -Marty
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Klas Fjellgren
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 6:25 AM
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: New poll for SurfGuitar101
>
>
>
> I must say it has been a bit surprising to see that peoples
arguments
> against a web forum seems to be based on their own personal
> preferences/problems and not on what might benefit surf music in
the
> long run.
>
> Klas / The Surfites
>
>
>
>
> --- In , Steve Kalkwarf <steve@k...>
> wrote:
> > > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
> > > SurfGuitar101 group:
> > >
> > > Should we stay with Yahoo Groups? Or
> > > would you prefer a more fancy-pants
> > > web-based forum like The Hypnotic IV has?
> >
> > I think the best argument for staying an email list is this
> response.
> > I've been too busy to keep up, and now, sitting without a nework
> > connection, but with my email, I can catch up.
> >
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> >
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Yes, but if that's the method people find most covenient to access the
information, then that, in itself, benefits surf music.
-K
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>
> I must say it has been a bit surprising to see that peoples
> arguments
> against a web forum seems to be based on their own personal
> preferences/problems and not on what might benefit surf music in the
>
> long run.
>
> Klas / The Surfites
