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And you never saw your gear again. Just kidding.
--- In , "halibutrick" <halibutrick@y...>
wrote:
>
>
> That reminds me of a Ventures story. The Halibuts were opening for
> them at teh Palomino in LA. They asked to see our setlist and crossed
> out about 5 songs they didn't want us to play. And, of course, they
> didn't play any of those songs.
>
> But on that same night, Don Wilson did something I'll never forget.
> After our set, as we were tearing down and they were setting up, the
> manager of the club wasn't going to let us leave our stuff anywhere in
> the club - not even the dressing rooms (I have no idea why. He was
> really being a jerk). I was driving an open back truck so I had
> nowhere to put the gear and of course wanted to stay to see the
> Ventures. Don saw my pleading with the mgr and came up to find out
> what the problem was. He grabbed one of his road crew guys, told the
> mgr to open up the side door, had them back this big equipment truck
> to the door. Told me to put the gear in the truck, they'll lock it up,
> and grab one of the road guys when I needed to get to it.
>
> Very cool.
>
> Rick
> Halibuts/Deoras
>
>
>
> --- In , bruce d <wizzbangg2003@y...>
wrote:
> > The Ventures likewise, didn't write "Walk Don't Run", only adapted
> it! So, y'all think it'd be cool to play "Walk Don't Run" at an event
> where you knew The Ventures would be playing after your band?
> >
> > Bruce D
> >
> >
I don't see it so grey, Jeff. Where rock and roll fans are concerned,
we all associate "Miserlou" with Dick Dale. Just as in the pop vocal we
associate "New York, New York" with Frank Sinatra or "Moon River" with
Andy Williams, "Thanks for the Memories" with Bob Hope. None of those
guys wrote the song yet those songs belong to them.
-Marty
> --- In , Jeff Riedle <stretch@c...>
wrote:
> > Normally I would agree, it's not cool to do a song that the
> headlining band
> > is known for.
> > But, since Dick Dale did not write "Misirlou", only adapted it, I
> see this
> > as a grey area.
> >
> > I've seen 3-band surf shows where each band played the same cover
tune.
> > Didn't bother me at the time, in fact it was nice to hear 3
different
> > interpretations of the same tune.
>
Misirlou is so covered. It appears on about half of every first wave
album and it is constantly covered today. I think the amount it is
covered really has an effectt.
--- In , "mctippens" <mctippens@e...> wrote:
>
> I don't see it so grey, Jeff. Where rock and roll fans are concerned,
> we all associate "Miserlou" with Dick Dale. Just as in the pop vocal we
> associate "New York, New York" with Frank Sinatra or "Moon River" with
> Andy Williams, "Thanks for the Memories" with Bob Hope. None of those
> guys wrote the song yet those songs belong to them.
> -Marty
>
> > --- In , Jeff Riedle <stretch@c...>
> wrote:
> > > Normally I would agree, it's not cool to do a song that the
> > headlining band
> > > is known for.
> > > But, since Dick Dale did not write "Misirlou", only adapted it, I
> > see this
> > > as a grey area.
> > >
> > > I've seen 3-band surf shows where each band played the same cover
> tune.
> > > Didn't bother me at the time, in fact it was nice to hear 3
> different
> > > interpretations of the same tune.
> >
Dude, that strikes me as really odd. Why would The
Ventures nix songs on your setlist that they didn't
have any intention of playing?
Richard
--- halibutrick <> wrote:
> That reminds me of a Ventures story. The Halibuts
> were opening for
> them at teh Palomino in LA. They asked to see our
> setlist and crossed
> out about 5 songs they didn't want us to play. And,
> of course, they
> didn't play any of those songs.
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--- In , "halibutrick" <halibutrick@y...>
wrote:
>
> That reminds me of a Ventures story. The Halibuts were opening for
> them at teh Palomino in LA. They asked to see our setlist and crossed
> out about 5 songs they didn't want us to play. And, of course, they
> didn't play any of those songs.
That is a cool story, Rick...but let me get this straight: they
crossed songs of YOUR set list, but they themselves did not even play
them? Did they think your songs were too similiar to theirs or
something?
Thanks,
BN
When they crossed the songs out on our setlist, we assumed it was
because they were going to play them. It wasn't until they were done
that we realized they didn't play any of the songs they said we
couldn't play. I don't remember all the songs that were on that list,
but I do remember Memphis was the only one I thought they might play.
I am positive Walk Don't Run, Pipline, Wipeout, Apache, were NOT on
our setlist.
I'm guessing they wanted to leave everything open in case they were to
change things up in their set.
It didn't feel like they were bullying us around, they were very
friendly with us in the dressing rooms, and the list wasn't too big of
a deal to us. The 'buts had a lot of material in the repertoire.
Rick
Halibuts/Deoras
--- In , "Brian Neal" <bgneal@g...> wrote:
>
> --- In , "halibutrick" <halibutrick@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > That reminds me of a Ventures story. The Halibuts were opening for
> > them at teh Palomino in LA. They asked to see our setlist and crossed
> > out about 5 songs they didn't want us to play. And, of course, they
> > didn't play any of those songs.
>
> That is a cool story, Rick...but let me get this straight: they
> crossed songs of YOUR set list, but they themselves did not even play
> them? Did they think your songs were too similiar to theirs or
> something?
>
> Thanks,
> BN
I remember that Halibuts gig at the Palamino where you opened for the
Ventures. You guys had on shark skin suits and I recall you doing a
Monkees tune as an instro. I think it was "Im' a Believer". Great
stuff!
-Marty
--- In , "halibutrick"
<halibutrick@y...> wrote:
>
>
> When they crossed the songs out on our setlist, we assumed it was
> because they were going to play them. It wasn't until they were done
> that we realized they didn't play any of the songs they said we
> couldn't play. I don't remember all the songs that were on that
list,
> but I do remember Memphis was the only one I thought they might
play.
> I am positive Walk Don't Run, Pipline, Wipeout, Apache, were NOT on
> our setlist.
>
> I'm guessing they wanted to leave everything open in case they were
to
> change things up in their set.
>
> It didn't feel like they were bullying us around, they were very
> friendly with us in the dressing rooms, and the list wasn't too big
of
> a deal to us. The 'buts had a lot of material in the repertoire.
>
> Rick
> Halibuts/Deoras
>
>
>
> --- In , "Brian Neal" <bgneal@g...>
wrote:
> >
> > --- In , "halibutrick"
<halibutrick@y...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > That reminds me of a Ventures story. The Halibuts were opening
for
> > > them at teh Palomino in LA. They asked to see our setlist and
crossed
> > > out about 5 songs they didn't want us to play. And, of course,
they
> > > didn't play any of those songs.
> >
> > That is a cool story, Rick...but let me get this straight: they
> > crossed songs of YOUR set list, but they themselves did not even
play
> > them? Did they think your songs were too similiar to theirs or
> > something?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > BN
Too bad those suits don't fit anymore! 20 years on the hangar must
have shrunk them.
Rick
Halibuts/Deoras
--- In , "mctippens" <mctippens@e...> wrote:
>
> I remember that Halibuts gig at the Palamino where you opened for the
> Ventures. You guys had on shark skin suits and I recall you doing a
> Monkees tune as an instro. I think it was "Im' a Believer". Great
> stuff!
> -Marty
I think that goes further to prove the point, Jacob. There are indeed many
covers of Miserlou, yet we still consider it a Dick Dale tune.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: Jacob Dobner
To:
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:29 AM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: DD Q & A, shit that went down on Sat at Jim Pash
benefit
Misirlou is so covered. It appears on about half of every first wave
album and it is constantly covered today. I think the amount it is
covered really has an effectt.
--- In , "mctippens" <mctippens@e...> wrote:
>
> I don't see it so grey, Jeff. Where rock and roll fans are concerned,
> we all associate "Miserlou" with Dick Dale. Just as in the pop vocal we
> associate "New York, New York" with Frank Sinatra or "Moon River" with
> Andy Williams, "Thanks for the Memories" with Bob Hope. None of those
> guys wrote the song yet those songs belong to them.
> -Marty
>
> > --- In , Jeff Riedle <stretch@c...>
> wrote:
> > > Normally I would agree, it's not cool to do a song that the
> > headlining band
> > > is known for.
> > > But, since Dick Dale did not write "Misirlou", only adapted it, I
> > see this
> > > as a grey area.
> > >
> > > I've seen 3-band surf shows where each band played the same cover
> tune.
> > > Didn't bother me at the time, in fact it was nice to hear 3
> different
> > > interpretations of the same tune.
> >
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Well I'm glad to hear that!
Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: Jacob Dobner
To:
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:46 AM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: DD Q & A, shit that went down on Sat at Jim Pash
benefit
I truly enjoy the guy's music. I think a lot of people get the
impression that I don't like him. That isn't true.
--- In , "Marty Tippens" <mctippens@e...>
wrote:
> Hey Jacob, I'm glad that you could care less if DD invented surf. If
you could NOT care less, then we'd have some trouble. It's not just
the DD was first BUT that DD did it so well that he deserves his god
status. I mean come on, that 40 year old recording of Miserlou was
still awesome in 1994 as the opening theme to Pulp Fiction, it's hard
to think of title theme as effective before or since. Sure Dick's ego
is over the top. So is Little Richard's. And I hear that Chuck Berry
is a real d*ck. We can point to the technically better musicians with
nicer attitudes that have followed, but these guys, DD, LR and CB are
the originals and belong on Mt. Rockmore.
> -Marty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jacob Dobner
> To:
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 6:00 PM
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: DD Q & A, shit that went down on Sat
at Jim Pash benefit
>
>
>
> I could care less if Dick Dale invented surf. I like his earlier stuff
> but just because he was the first is no reason to elevate him to god
> status. Slacktone is quite different from Dick Dale. Sure they
> wouldn't sound the same without Dick but they don't rip stuff off of
> Dick. Slacktone's version of Misirlou is quite different. Note all the
> extra chords dave throws in. Play Dick's version back to back with
theirs.
>
> Dick's ego and attitude come from the wrong place in this case.
>
> --- In , Dan Bartley <bigtwangguy@y...>
> wrote:
> > I dunno, I think you're being a little hard on Dick. Didn't he
> invent the style that Slacktone plays? To be honest, I've never heard
> a full song of their's, only the sound bytes on their site, and it
> sounds awesome, but if they were around in the late 50's and early
> 60's, do you think that they would have been playing stuff like their
> version of Miserlou without Dick's influence?
> >
> > As far as leaving the room when Slacktone played Miserlou, the last
> thing that a headliner needs to hear before going on is the opening
> act playing one of the headliners songs, whether it's a better version
> or not. I checked out Slacktone's Miserlou video on their site and
> apart from the open-string stuff intro, IMHO it's pretty much Dick's
> version, not exactly, but close enough. Even the glissandos seem to be
> in the same spots as Dick's version.
> >
> > When you take Dick's age into consideration, as well as his huge
> influence, I think he's allowed to have an ego and attitude. Anyway,
> that's my take on it. I don't personally know Dick or Dave so I can
> only speculate.
> > Cheers
> > Dan
> >
> > Jeff <bigtikidude@y...> wrote:
> >
> > -Jacob,
> > Dick didn't come to any of the LA or San Diego shows for the surf
> > coasters. That I know of he doesn't listen to or go see any
bands
> > play. Usually he hides in his back stage room or outside in the RV
> > while the other bands play. Then he comes in after all his
stuff is
> > ready and plays. I was really suprised to see him come in halfway
> > thru Slacktones set. He didn't really seem to notice or look at
> > them. Everybody(lots of older people) were running over to
> > hug/shake his hand/and say hi to him. So he was pretty tied up in
> > that to watch. But after a few minutes he went back to the back of
> > the room with his wife, Jimmy and a bunch of Jimmys friends, and
sat
> > down at a table. When we talked Slacktone into doing Miserlou, I
> > had to see Dicks reaction. So I non chalauntly (sp?) went
walking
> > towards the back of the room. And Noticed that he wasn't there any
> > more. He had to have ran out the back door when they started it.
> > I was near the stage, and he didn't walk passed to go to the
restroom.
> > I'd love to ask him face to face about. But I'll just let him be #1
> > in his own mind.
> > Jeff(bigtikidude)
> >
> >
> >
> > -- In , "Jacob Dobner"
> > <jacobdobner@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for the report. That is one of the greatest testaments to
> > > Slacktone's greatness. The King of the Surf Guitar won't
acknowledge
> > > one of the several actual kings of the surf guitar. Do you know if
> > > Dick came out to see the Surf Coasters? I am bummed that
Shigeo goes
> > > by Prince of the Surf Guitar. He should be Emperor of Surf Guitar.
> > >
> > > Slacktone's Misirlou is amazing. I love the Surf Coasters as well
> > but
> > > I have to give it to Slacktone's current version of the tune.
> > >
> > > I was thinking yesterday about the whole King of the Surf Guitar
> > > title. What we need is a system of government that doesn't have a
> > > single head of state. Or atleast a representative body that could
> > > include all the great players while not making one guy above
> > everyone
> > > else. It could be the Senate of Surf Guitar.
> > >
> > > --- In , "Jeff" <bigtikidude@y...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Side Note: Slacktone wiped the floor with Dick. Dave wasn't
> > going
> > > > to do Miserlou, But we were all yelling for them to do it.
> > > > Dick was inthe house while they were playing(I was surprised).
> > But
> > > > when they started it, he left to go outside while they
played it.
> > > > Tooo funny, that guy is a total asshole.
> > > > as Billy Blast off pointed out, all the bands but Slacktone
were
> > > > listed on Dicks web site for the event.
> > > >
> > > > Jeff(bigtikidude)
> >
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Hey Kristena,
You are absolutely right that arrogance doesn't have to be a byproduct of talent
and Slacktone are the shining example. I like to see both of Dick and Slacktone
equally. Arrogance ain't such a bad thing. The Dick Dale show wouldn't be nearly
as fun without that huge ego that pushes him to the front of the stage and gets
the crowd to chear him on. And all that other goofy stuff he does, such as
playing a mean trumpet and bashin' away at the drums is fun as well. I also
like his vocals. You and I both saw a very over-the-top Dick Dale in Glendale
last summer and I recall us both giving him glowing reviews on one of these
lists. He sells surf to the general public like know one else I've seen.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: Kristena Hernandez
To:
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Re: DD Q & A, shit that went down on Sat at Jim
Pash benefit
Yeah, let's just say it would've been good to see Dick perform that 40
years ago, but I rather see Slacktone perform it today. Dave, Dusty,
and Sam prove that arrogance doesn't have to be a byproduct of talent.
-K
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:51:44 -0700 "Marty Tippens"
<> writes:
>
> As back-handed a complement as we might attempt such as Ivan's # 4
> paragraph below and some of the stuff I've said as well as the
> outright slams, it's mistake to exclude the fact that the Dick Dale
> show is a success to the general audience. We hardcore surf fans
> frame the Dick Dale show from a very slanted perspective, and
> however close we try to hold him to the light, the general audiences
> eat it up.
> -Marty
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ipongrac
> To:
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 9:06 PM
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: DD Q & A, shit that went down on Sat
> at Jim Pash benefit
>
>
>
> --- In , "supertwangreverb"
> <supertwangreverb@y...> wrote:
> > Slacktone would NOT be playing Miserlou had it not been for Dick
>
> Dale,
> > sorry, simple as that! I know Dick didn't write it. I've read
>
> where
> > Phil Dirt said Slacktone "owns" Miserlou now. Sorry, but there
> is
> > nothing farther from the truth than this statement. The
> majorities
> > opinion, Jacob?? I know a lot of surf musicians and fans who
> wouldn't
> > want to hear Slacktone's version of Miserlou.
>
> This thread is getting a bit out of control, but hell, I can't
> stay
> out of it! Several points:
>
> 1) I agree with Marty than Dave and Dusty 'have good heads on
> their
> shoulders', as well as being very kind and respectful human beings
> -
> I can't imagine them doing anything that would intentionally cause
>
> harm or inflict disrespect (though who knows how Dusty and Dick
> left
> off? The fact is that DD is a very difficult person, and it's
> quite
> possible that there's some bad blood between the two of them,
> though
> I doubt it).
>
> 2) Slacktone's version of Miserlou is not THAT different from
> Dick's
> original. All the parts and notes are in the same places, and
> Dave
> just throws in a few flashy bits, such as the fast-moving chords -
>
> but those don't really change the song very much. DD's version
> will
> always be the definitive one, no way around that.
>
> 3) Having said that, has anyone heard DD play Miserlou the way he
>
> recorded it originally in the last ten years? And what about the
>
> original beat which I think is so important to the song? Has
> anyone
> even heard him play it all the way through in ANY version? With
> the
> bridge? I've seen him some seven or eight times in the last
> twelve
> years, and I have not. He's changed it so much that it does
> absolutely nothing for me anymore, and many others that I've
> talked
> with. He obviously doesn't understand where the magic of that
> song
> comes from, and I believe he's ruined it over the last decade.
> I'd
> prefer for him to stop playing it, and let Slacktone and the Surf
>
> Coasters and whoever else do it - they do it much better (but not
>
> better than DD did it in '62).
>
> 4) DD's show isn't much of a musical experience - it's a show.
> You
> don't go expecting to hear songs. You go to see him make his
> silly
> faces, hear all 110+ db's of his Strat/reverb/Dual-Showmans, pull
> up
> barely-dressed teenage girls to hold up sheet music so he could
> play
> the same trumpet part he's been playing for 40 years in the middle
> of
> the Wedge, and then feel them up, and listen to him embarass
> himself
> by talking about how he suffers with the indigenous people of
> Earth,
> how his soul cries out over the destruction of the environment,
> how
> he taught Jimi and Stevie everything they knew and their entire
> catalog was actually an homage to him cause they thought he was
> dead,
> how he invented the Stratocaster and maybe the motorized airplane
>
> (though he thinks there may have been a couple of brothers around,
>
> too, but it was mostly him), how Deep Purple actually stole Smoke
> on
> the Water from one of his unrecorded riffs and to prove it he'll
> now
> just play the riff for about ten minuts, etc... If Slacktone
> plays
> the entire DD catalog right before his show, it wouldn't make a
> damn
> bit of difference, cause that's not why people come to see DD.
>
> My two cents.
> Ivan
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-Bruce,
Chill out alittle but please.
You weren't there.
I said in my original Post that Dave said they weren't going to
play it. But (WE) were all yelling for it. Dusty shrugged his
shoulders and said what the hell, lets give it to them.
Dick wasn't the headliner, he was only going to be playing with
Jimmy, Bus since Sam and Ron were there, and Jimmy can play drums
there were some full band songs. But about a half hour of it was
just the Dick and Jimmy show(Boreing). The Chantays and the Surfaris
were after Dick.
And Paul and Gil (The Duo Tones) Did Pipeline, and the Chantays
were there. I'm sure Paul wasn't being disrespectful of the Chantays.
As a Matter of fact, the only one who was rude the whole day was Dick.
The way he went on about nover being able to find/have a good drummer,
who could listen/take directions/play on the 1's. That was a major
slap inthe face of Dusty, and I believe he just said it to be an ass,
and is still mad at him for leaving.
I understand what you are saying,and I totally 100% respect Dick fo
rall his contributions to surf. But today the guy is 100% asshole
and a bitter and misserable old geezer.
Ron and Dusty didn't leave for no reason, they couldn't put up with
him anymore.
I could go on and on, but I've had personal e-mail exchanges with
Dick, and he's not pleasant or respectful to anyone in the surf
comunity.
Jeff(bigtikidude)
-- In , bruce d <wizzbangg2003@y...>
wrote:
> See, the fact is that Dick Dale is Dick Dale. His idiosyncracies
are legendary and very well-known. He used to tell venues that he
would not play if another Instro Surf Band was going on before him -
He didn't want the audience's attention for his music diluted in any
way at all.
>
> This has never been a secret, and of all people, Dave W oughta have
been extremely aware of this. I come back to the issue of respect.
If I heard Dick Dale playing one of our songs, yes, I'd be totally
flattered and stoked! But for ME to presume to perform Dick's #1
SIGNATURE SONG, prior to Dick himself getting on stage - SORRY, I
find that inexcusably unprofessional and disrepectful. Like I said,
younger folk just ain't got the same level of artistic ethics these
days!
>
> Bruce D
>
> Brian Neal <bgneal@g...> wrote:
>
>
> > Wow. I guess we think the opposite Bruce.
> > If another band played one of my tunes, (especially a band of that
> caliber), I'd be flattered, and then I'd probably jump on stage with
> them. But that's me.......
> > B-B-O
>
> Yeah, maybe, *given* that this is a special benefit for Jim Pash,
and
> not a regular gig. So in the spirit of things I can see that. Still
it
> does seem odd that they would play Misirlou...but man, wouldn't that
> have been something if DD joined Slacktone on stage? WOW.
>
> However, I wasn't there so I won't judge the mood or the situation
> from 1,000 miles away.
>
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He said the thing about the drummer in Dusty's presence. What an
asshole. That isn't cool at all.
--- In , "Jeff" <bigtikidude@y...> wrote:
>
> -Bruce,
> Chill out alittle but please.
> You weren't there.
> I said in my original Post that Dave said they weren't going to
> play it. But (WE) were all yelling for it. Dusty shrugged his
> shoulders and said what the hell, lets give it to them.
> Dick wasn't the headliner, he was only going to be playing with
> Jimmy, Bus since Sam and Ron were there, and Jimmy can play drums
> there were some full band songs. But about a half hour of it was
> just the Dick and Jimmy show(Boreing). The Chantays and the Surfaris
> were after Dick.
> And Paul and Gil (The Duo Tones) Did Pipeline, and the Chantays
> were there. I'm sure Paul wasn't being disrespectful of the Chantays.
> As a Matter of fact, the only one who was rude the whole day was Dick.
> The way he went on about nover being able to find/have a good drummer,
> who could listen/take directions/play on the 1's. That was a major
> slap inthe face of Dusty, and I believe he just said it to be an ass,
> and is still mad at him for leaving.
> I understand what you are saying,and I totally 100% respect Dick fo
> rall his contributions to surf. But today the guy is 100% asshole
> and a bitter and misserable old geezer.
> Ron and Dusty didn't leave for no reason, they couldn't put up with
> him anymore.
> I could go on and on, but I've had personal e-mail exchanges with
> Dick, and he's not pleasant or respectful to anyone in the surf
> comunity.
> Jeff(bigtikidude)
>
>
>
>
> -- In , bruce d <wizzbangg2003@y...>
> wrote:
> > See, the fact is that Dick Dale is Dick Dale. His idiosyncracies
> are legendary and very well-known. He used to tell venues that he
> would not play if another Instro Surf Band was going on before him -
> He didn't want the audience's attention for his music diluted in any
> way at all.
> >
> > This has never been a secret, and of all people, Dave W oughta have
> been extremely aware of this. I come back to the issue of respect.
> If I heard Dick Dale playing one of our songs, yes, I'd be totally
> flattered and stoked! But for ME to presume to perform Dick's #1
> SIGNATURE SONG, prior to Dick himself getting on stage - SORRY, I
> find that inexcusably unprofessional and disrepectful. Like I said,
> younger folk just ain't got the same level of artistic ethics these
> days!
> >
> > Bruce D
> >
> > Brian Neal <bgneal@g...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Wow. I guess we think the opposite Bruce.
> > > If another band played one of my tunes, (especially a band of that
> > caliber), I'd be flattered, and then I'd probably jump on stage with
> > them. But that's me.......
> > > B-B-O
> >
> > Yeah, maybe, *given* that this is a special benefit for Jim Pash,
> and
> > not a regular gig. So in the spirit of things I can see that. Still
> it
> > does seem odd that they would play Misirlou...but man, wouldn't that
> > have been something if DD joined Slacktone on stage? WOW.
> >
> > However, I wasn't there so I won't judge the mood or the situation
> > from 1,000 miles away.
> >
> > BN
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Yeah,
ON stage infront of Everybody, and Dusty was there.
We(THE HARD CORE SURF CROWD)were awe struck, our jaws just hangin'
down. I couldn't believe that he'd say that about Dusty. But Then I
realised 2 things. Dusty had just left the band, And It is DICK
we are talking about here.
Jeff(bigtikidude)
--- In , "Jacob Dobner"
<jacobdobner@y...> wrote:
>
> He said the thing about the drummer in Dusty's presence. What an
> asshole. That isn't cool at all.
>
> --- In , "Jeff" <bigtikidude@y...>
wrote:
> >
> > -Bruce,
> > Chill out alittle but please.
> > You weren't there.
> > I said in my original Post that Dave said they weren't going
to
> > play it. But (WE) were all yelling for it. Dusty shrugged his
> > shoulders and said what the hell, lets give it to them.
> > Dick wasn't the headliner, he was only going to be playing
with
> > Jimmy, Bus since Sam and Ron were there, and Jimmy can play
drums
> > there were some full band songs. But about a half hour of it was
> > just the Dick and Jimmy show(Boreing). The Chantays and the
Surfaris
> > were after Dick.
> > And Paul and Gil (The Duo Tones) Did Pipeline, and the
Chantays
> > were there. I'm sure Paul wasn't being disrespectful of the
Chantays.
> > As a Matter of fact, the only one who was rude the whole day was
Dick.
> > The way he went on about nover being able to find/have a good
drummer,
> > who could listen/take directions/play on the 1's. That was a
major
> > slap inthe face of Dusty, and I believe he just said it to be an
ass,
> > and is still mad at him for leaving.
> > I understand what you are saying,and I totally 100% respect
Dick fo
> > rall his contributions to surf. But today the guy is 100%
asshole
> > and a bitter and misserable old geezer.
> > Ron and Dusty didn't leave for no reason, they couldn't put up
with
> > him anymore.
> > I could go on and on, but I've had personal e-mail exchanges
with
> > Dick, and he's not pleasant or respectful to anyone in the surf
> > comunity.
> > Jeff(bigtikidude)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- In , bruce d <wizzbangg2003@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > See, the fact is that Dick Dale is Dick Dale. His
idiosyncracies
> > are legendary and very well-known. He used to tell venues that
he
> > would not play if another Instro Surf Band was going on before
him -
> > He didn't want the audience's attention for his music diluted in
any
> > way at all.
> > >
> > > This has never been a secret, and of all people, Dave W oughta
have
> > been extremely aware of this. I come back to the issue of
respect.
> > If I heard Dick Dale playing one of our songs, yes, I'd be
totally
> > flattered and stoked! But for ME to presume to perform Dick's #1
> > SIGNATURE SONG, prior to Dick himself getting on stage - SORRY, I
> > find that inexcusably unprofessional and disrepectful. Like I
said,
> > younger folk just ain't got the same level of artistic ethics
these
> > days!
> > >
> > > Bruce D
> > >
> > > Brian Neal <bgneal@g...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Wow. I guess we think the opposite Bruce.
> > > > If another band played one of my tunes, (especially a band of
that
> > > caliber), I'd be flattered, and then I'd probably jump on stage
with
> > > them. But that's me.......
> > > > B-B-O
> > >
> > > Yeah, maybe, *given* that this is a special benefit for Jim
Pash,
> > and
> > > not a regular gig. So in the spirit of things I can see that.
Still
> > it
> > > does seem odd that they would play Misirlou...but man, wouldn't
that
> > > have been something if DD joined Slacktone on stage? WOW.
> > >
> > > However, I wasn't there so I won't judge the mood or the
situation
> > > from 1,000 miles away.
> > >
> > > BN
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I have to admit. Dick Dale pissed me off the other day at Newport Beach. There
was alot of trash talkin' he could of skipped that day. Wasn't necessary.
I saw the members of the Surfari's and Chantays look at each other in disbelief.
Like Jeff said. You had to be there.
Besides all the drama, I can only hope, the most important, we all helped Jim
Pash.
Billy
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> Chill out alittle but please.<BR>
> You weren't there. <BR>
> I said in my original Post that Dave said they weren't
going to <BR>
> play it. But (WE) were all yelling for it. Dusty shrugged his <BR>
> shoulders and said what the hell, lets give it to them.<BR>
> Dick wasn't the headliner, he was only going to be playing
with <BR>
> Jimmy, Bus since Sam and Ron were there, and Jimmy can play drums <BR>
> there were some full band songs. But about a half hour of it was<BR>
> just the Dick and Jimmy show(Boreing). The Chantays and the Surfaris
<BR>
> were after Dick.<BR>
> And Paul and Gil (The Duo Tones) Did Pipeline, and the
Chantays <BR>
> were there. I'm sure Paul wasn't being disrespectful of the
Chantays.<BR>
> As a Matter of fact, the only one who was rude the whole day was Dick.<BR>
> The way he went on about nover being able to find/have a good drummer,<BR>
> who could listen/take directions/play on the 1's. That was a major <BR>
> slap inthe face of Dusty, and I believe he just said it to be an ass, <BR>
> and is still mad at him for leaving.<BR>
> I understand what you are saying,and I totally 100% respect Dick fo
<BR>
> rall his contributions to surf. But today the guy is 100%
asshole<BR>
> and a bitter and misserable old geezer.<BR>
> Ron and Dusty didn't leave for no reason, they couldn't put up with
<BR>
> him anymore.<BR>
> I could go on and on, but I've had personal e-mail exchanges with
<BR>
> Dick, and he's not pleasant or respectful to anyone in the surf <BR>
> comunity.<BR>
> Jeff(bigtikidude)<BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> -- In , bruce d <wizzbangg2003@y...> <BR>
> wrote:<BR>
> > See, the fact is that Dick Dale is Dick Dale. His idiosyncracies
<BR>
> are legendary and very well-known. He used to tell venues that he <BR>
> would not play if another Instro Surf Band was going on before him - <BR>
> He didn't want the audience's attention for his music diluted in any <BR>
> way at all.<BR>
> > <BR>
> > This has never been a secret, and of all people, Dave W oughta have <BR>
> been extremely aware of this. I come back to the issue of respect.
<BR>
> If I heard Dick Dale playing one of our songs, yes, I'd be totally <BR>
> flattered and stoked! But for ME to presume to perform Dick's #1 <BR>
> SIGNATURE SONG, prior to Dick himself getting on stage - SORRY, I <BR>
> find that inexcusably unprofessional and disrepectful. Like I said, <BR>
> younger folk just ain't got the same level of artistic ethics these <BR>
> days!<BR>
> > <BR>
> > Bruce D<BR>
> > <BR>
> > Brian Neal <bgneal@g...> wrote:<BR>
> > <BR>
> > <BR>
> > > Wow. I guess we think the opposite Bruce. <BR>
> > > If another band played one of my tunes, (especially a band of
that<BR>
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> > them. But that's me.......<BR>
> > > B-B-O<BR>
> > <BR>
> > Yeah, maybe, *given* that this is a special benefit for Jim Pash, <BR>
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> it<BR>
> > does seem odd that they would play Misirlou...but man, wouldn't that<BR>
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> > <BR>
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Hey Jeff -
I know where you're coming from, and believe me, I know how big a Dick Dale can
be.
I also consider Dave W to be one of the most awesome surf/rock guitarists on the
scene today, and also deserving of respect and admiration!
Maybe my sense of artistic etiquette is inordinately well-defined, but my
feeling was that the Big Dick has already pissed around the perimeter of
"Misirlou" for enough years and on enough stages that it should be considered
his signature song.
A--hole or not, in his "Golden Years" (lol!) Dick Dale is still owed a lot by
all of us in the Surf Music community. I don't wanna ruffle your feathers, but
that's how I feel.
Best Regards Big Tiki Dude!
Bruce D
--- In , "Jeff" <bigtikidude@y...> wrote:
>
> -Bruce,
> Chill out alittle but please.
> You weren't there.
> I said in my original Post that Dave said they weren't going to
> play it. But (WE) were all yelling for it. Dusty shrugged his
> shoulders and said what the hell, lets give it to them.
> Dick wasn't the headliner, he was only going to be playing with
> Jimmy, Bus since Sam and Ron were there, and Jimmy can play drums
> there were some full band songs. But about a half hour of it was
> just the Dick and Jimmy show(Boreing). The Chantays and the Surfaris
> were after Dick.
> And Paul and Gil (The Duo Tones) Did Pipeline, and the Chantays
> were there. I'm sure Paul wasn't being disrespectful of the Chantays.
> As a Matter of fact, the only one who was rude the whole day was Dick.
> The way he went on about nover being able to find/have a good drummer,
> who could listen/take directions/play on the 1's. That was a major
> slap inthe face of Dusty, and I believe he just said it to be an ass,
> and is still mad at him for leaving.
> I understand what you are saying,and I totally 100% respect Dick fo
> rall his contributions to surf. But today the guy is 100% asshole
> and a bitter and misserable old geezer.
> Ron and Dusty didn't leave for no reason, they couldn't put up with
> him anymore.
> I could go on and on, but I've had personal e-mail exchanges with
> Dick, and he's not pleasant or respectful to anyone in the surf
> comunity.
> Jeff(bigtikidude)
>
>
>
>
> -- In , bruce d <wizzbangg2003@y...>
> wrote:
> > See, the fact is that Dick Dale is Dick Dale. His idiosyncracies
> are legendary and very well-known. He used to tell venues that he
> would not play if another Instro Surf Band was going on before him -
> He didn't want the audience's attention for his music diluted in any
> way at all.
> >
> > This has never been a secret, and of all people, Dave W oughta have
> been extremely aware of this. I come back to the issue of respect.
> If I heard Dick Dale playing one of our songs, yes, I'd be totally
> flattered and stoked! But for ME to presume to perform Dick's #1
> SIGNATURE SONG, prior to Dick himself getting on stage - SORRY, I
> find that inexcusably unprofessional and disrepectful. Like I said,
> younger folk just ain't got the same level of artistic ethics these
> days!
> >
> > Bruce D
> >
> > Brian Neal <bgneal@g...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Wow. I guess we think the opposite Bruce.
> > > If another band played one of my tunes, (especially a band of that
> > caliber), I'd be flattered, and then I'd probably jump on stage with
> > them. But that's me.......
> > > B-B-O
> >
> > Yeah, maybe, *given* that this is a special benefit for Jim Pash,
> and
> > not a regular gig. So in the spirit of things I can see that. Still
> it
> > does seem odd that they would play Misirlou...but man, wouldn't that
> > have been something if DD joined Slacktone on stage? WOW.
> >
> > However, I wasn't there so I won't judge the mood or the situation
> > from 1,000 miles away.
> >
> > BN
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You speak about artistic integrity and etiquette yet you don't seem to
condemn Dick announcing he can't find a good drummer any where in
front of a drummer he let go, presumably to a disagreement. And You
need to go apeshit on Paul Johnson and Gil(can anybody fill me in on
who he is) of the Duo-tones for doing Pipeline on the same bill as the
Chantays.
--- In , bruce d <wizzbangg2003@y...> wrote:
>
> Hey Jeff -
>
> I know where you're coming from, and believe me, I know how big a
Dick Dale can be.
>
> I also consider Dave W to be one of the most awesome surf/rock
guitarists on the scene today, and also deserving of respect and
admiration!
>
> Maybe my sense of artistic etiquette is inordinately well-defined,
but my feeling was that the Big Dick has already pissed around the
perimeter of "Misirlou" for enough years and on enough stages that it
should be considered his signature song.
>
> A--hole or not, in his "Golden Years" (lol!) Dick Dale is still owed
a lot by all of us in the Surf Music community. I don't wanna ruffle
your feathers, but that's how I feel.
>
> Best Regards Big Tiki Dude!
>
> Bruce D
>
>
>
> --- In , "Jeff" <bigtikidude@y...> wrote:
> >
> > -Bruce,
> > Chill out alittle but please.
> > You weren't there.
> > I said in my original Post that Dave said they weren't going to
> > play it. But (WE) were all yelling for it. Dusty shrugged his
> > shoulders and said what the hell, lets give it to them.
> > Dick wasn't the headliner, he was only going to be playing with
> > Jimmy, Bus since Sam and Ron were there, and Jimmy can play drums
> > there were some full band songs. But about a half hour of it was
> > just the Dick and Jimmy show(Boreing). The Chantays and the Surfaris
> > were after Dick.
> > And Paul and Gil (The Duo Tones) Did Pipeline, and the Chantays
> > were there. I'm sure Paul wasn't being disrespectful of the Chantays.
> > As a Matter of fact, the only one who was rude the whole day was Dick.
> > The way he went on about nover being able to find/have a good drummer,
> > who could listen/take directions/play on the 1's. That was a major
> > slap inthe face of Dusty, and I believe he just said it to be an ass,
> > and is still mad at him for leaving.
> > I understand what you are saying,and I totally 100% respect Dick fo
> > rall his contributions to surf. But today the guy is 100% asshole
> > and a bitter and misserable old geezer.
> > Ron and Dusty didn't leave for no reason, they couldn't put up with
> > him anymore.
> > I could go on and on, but I've had personal e-mail exchanges with
> > Dick, and he's not pleasant or respectful to anyone in the surf
> > comunity.
> > Jeff(bigtikidude)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- In , bruce d <wizzbangg2003@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > See, the fact is that Dick Dale is Dick Dale. His idiosyncracies
> > are legendary and very well-known. He used to tell venues that he
> > would not play if another Instro Surf Band was going on before him -
> > He didn't want the audience's attention for his music diluted in any
> > way at all.
> > >
> > > This has never been a secret, and of all people, Dave W oughta have
> > been extremely aware of this. I come back to the issue of respect.
> > If I heard Dick Dale playing one of our songs, yes, I'd be totally
> > flattered and stoked! But for ME to presume to perform Dick's #1
> > SIGNATURE SONG, prior to Dick himself getting on stage - SORRY, I
> > find that inexcusably unprofessional and disrepectful. Like I said,
> > younger folk just ain't got the same level of artistic ethics these
> > days!
> > >
> > > Bruce D
> > >
> > > Brian Neal <bgneal@g...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Wow. I guess we think the opposite Bruce.
> > > > If another band played one of my tunes, (especially a band of that
> > > caliber), I'd be flattered, and then I'd probably jump on stage with
> > > them. But that's me.......
> > > > B-B-O
> > >
> > > Yeah, maybe, *given* that this is a special benefit for Jim Pash,
> > and
> > > not a regular gig. So in the spirit of things I can see that. Still
> > it
> > > does seem odd that they would play Misirlou...but man, wouldn't that
> > > have been something if DD joined Slacktone on stage? WOW.
> > >
> > > However, I wasn't there so I won't judge the mood or the situation
> > > from 1,000 miles away.
> > >
> > > BN
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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--- Jacob Dobner <> wrote:
--snip--
> Dick announcing he can't find a good drummer
> any where in
> front of a drummer he let go, presumably to a
disagreement.
--snip--
This part of the argument based on hearsay and rumor.
There are lots of reasons for leaving employment-
better money, better personal situation, more
opportunity for advancement in the company. Dusty,
unlike almost everybody on this list, is a
professional musician, and gigs = food. Maybe Dusty
left for a non-personal issue, and Dick is a little
pissed that he left. Until you hear it from Dusty's
mouth, I don't think it's right to presume you have
any idea what happened between the two of them.
And, while I am picking on my friends here... Jeff,
you yelled for Miserlou from Slacktone, then you turn
and go to the back of the room to see what Dick's
reaction is. Did you really want to hear the song or
were you interested in antagonizing Dick?
With apologies to Jake and Jeff,
Ferenc
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No apologies needed Ferenc. I was just going off of what I have heard
and what the reaction has been.
--- In , Ferenc Dobronyi <ferencnd@y...>
wrote:
> --- Jacob Dobner <jacobdobner@y...> wrote:
> --snip--
> > Dick announcing he can't find a good drummer
> > any where in
> > front of a drummer he let go, presumably to a
> disagreement.
> --snip--
>
> This part of the argument based on hearsay and rumor.
> There are lots of reasons for leaving employment-
> better money, better personal situation, more
> opportunity for advancement in the company. Dusty,
> unlike almost everybody on this list, is a
> professional musician, and gigs = food. Maybe Dusty
> left for a non-personal issue, and Dick is a little
> pissed that he left. Until you hear it from Dusty's
> mouth, I don't think it's right to presume you have
> any idea what happened between the two of them.
>
> And, while I am picking on my friends here... Jeff,
> you yelled for Miserlou from Slacktone, then you turn
> and go to the back of the room to see what Dick's
> reaction is. Did you really want to hear the song or
> were you interested in antagonizing Dick?
>
> With apologies to Jake and Jeff,
> Ferenc
>
>
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Isn't Gil Orr from The Chantays? That'd make the Duo-Tones playing "Pipeline" a
bit different than Slacktone doing "Misirlou."
-Warren
Jacob Dobner <> wrote:
You speak about artistic integrity and etiquette yet you don't seem to
condemn Dick announcing he can't find a good drummer any where in
front of a drummer he let go, presumably to a disagreement. And You
need to go apeshit on Paul Johnson and Gil(can anybody fill me in on
who he is) of the Duo-tones for doing Pipeline on the same bill as the
Chantays.
--- In , bruce d wrote:
>
> Hey Jeff -
>
> I know where you're coming from, and believe me, I know how big a
Dick Dale can be.
>
> I also consider Dave W to be one of the most awesome surf/rock
guitarists on the scene today, and also deserving of respect and
admiration!
>
> Maybe my sense of artistic etiquette is inordinately well-defined,
but my feeling was that the Big Dick has already pissed around the
perimeter of "Misirlou" for enough years and on enough stages that it
should be considered his signature song.
>
> A--hole or not, in his "Golden Years" (lol!) Dick Dale is still owed
a lot by all of us in the Surf Music community. I don't wanna ruffle
your feathers, but that's how I feel.
>
> Best Regards Big Tiki Dude!
>
> Bruce D
>
>
>
> --- In , "Jeff" wrote:
> >
> > -Bruce,
> > Chill out alittle but please.
> > You weren't there.
> > I said in my original Post that Dave said they weren't going to
> > play it. But (WE) were all yelling for it. Dusty shrugged his
> > shoulders and said what the hell, lets give it to them.
> > Dick wasn't the headliner, he was only going to be playing with
> > Jimmy, Bus since Sam and Ron were there, and Jimmy can play drums
> > there were some full band songs. But about a half hour of it was
> > just the Dick and Jimmy show(Boreing). The Chantays and the Surfaris
> > were after Dick.
> > And Paul and Gil (The Duo Tones) Did Pipeline, and the Chantays
> > were there. I'm sure Paul wasn't being disrespectful of the Chantays.
> > As a Matter of fact, the only one who was rude the whole day was Dick.
> > The way he went on about nover being able to find/have a good drummer,
> > who could listen/take directions/play on the 1's. That was a major
> > slap inthe face of Dusty, and I believe he just said it to be an ass,
> > and is still mad at him for leaving.
> > I understand what you are saying,and I totally 100% respect Dick fo
> > rall his contributions to surf. But today the guy is 100% asshole
> > and a bitter and misserable old geezer.
> > Ron and Dusty didn't leave for no reason, they couldn't put up with
> > him anymore.
> > I could go on and on, but I've had personal e-mail exchanges with
> > Dick, and he's not pleasant or respectful to anyone in the surf
> > comunity.
> > Jeff(bigtikidude)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- In , bruce d
> > wrote:
> > > See, the fact is that Dick Dale is Dick Dale. His idiosyncracies
> > are legendary and very well-known. He used to tell venues that he
> > would not play if another Instro Surf Band was going on before him -
> > He didn't want the audience's attention for his music diluted in any
> > way at all.
> > >
> > > This has never been a secret, and of all people, Dave W oughta have
> > been extremely aware of this. I come back to the issue of respect.
> > If I heard Dick Dale playing one of our songs, yes, I'd be totally
> > flattered and stoked! But for ME to presume to perform Dick's #1
> > SIGNATURE SONG, prior to Dick himself getting on stage - SORRY, I
> > find that inexcusably unprofessional and disrepectful. Like I said,
> > younger folk just ain't got the same level of artistic ethics these
> > days!
> > >
> > > Bruce D
> > >
> > > Brian Neal wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Wow. I guess we think the opposite Bruce.
> > > > If another band played one of my tunes, (especially a band of that
> > > caliber), I'd be flattered, and then I'd probably jump on stage with
> > > them. But that's me.......
> > > > B-B-O
> > >
> > > Yeah, maybe, *given* that this is a special benefit for Jim Pash,
> > and
> > > not a regular gig. So in the spirit of things I can see that. Still
> > it
> > > does seem odd that they would play Misirlou...but man, wouldn't that
> > > have been something if DD joined Slacktone on stage? WOW.
> > >
> > > However, I wasn't there so I won't judge the mood or the situation
> > > from 1,000 miles away.
> > >
> > > BN
> > >
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