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Looking to get more drip out of my Fender Princeton Reverb and Deluxe Reverb. I really love the drippy metallic sound of the springs with a shorter decay. Both these amps have really loooong decays and is fairly smooth. I prefer the more metallic springy sound.

I initially tried swapping the driver tubes (12at7). I tried an EHX long plate 12at7 and it made the recerb less metallic and smoother. I have two different Groove Tubes both labeled 12at7 premium. One is a short plate the other is long. I believe they are Chinese, and the long plate 12at7 produces the most metallic drip.

I’ve also tried two different long pans/tanks. A mod short decay and a Revisit. The revisit is smoother and shorter than stock and the mod is slightly more drippy.

I guess I’m looking for a shortcut (as opposed to seemingly endless experimentation) to get the tone I’m looking for. Does any one have any suggestions for the best pan/tank to use and 12at7 ???

Also would removing the tank from the bag and mounting it directly to the combo increase drip or would double bagging it increase it.

I recently tried a tweed blues junior that had terrific drip and and metallic spring sounding verb. I forgot to note the tube used but the tank is a short 3 spring medium decay. I know the circuit is different. It is also mounted direct to combo (not isolated in a bag).

I’d be real happy with this sound: https://youtu.be/EO_pOYfsJk4

Maybe I just need to get a stand alone unit.

https://youtu.be/02bIKMb5hj4

From your description, seems like you've exhausted the options for the built-in reverb. Even with mods to the driver and original 60's pan, it would be a hit and miss ordeal that may get you just a little closer but not really.

If you're after The Astronauts super drippy sound, there is no other answer - you'll need an external 6G15 circuit and 4AB3C1? pan, like the original '63 tanks. It has to hit the amp's input.

Luckily for you and all of us, a solid state replica has been created, it's called Surfy-Bear, and here's a huge thread about it, with tons of examples of implementation. Dive in! You can use your existing pans, or even install it inside your amp for convenience. DIY or buy a unit, it WILL get you there, tried and tested. Welcome to reverb heaven.

Last edited: Jan 10, 2019 11:47:48

I went through all this when I started my surf journey. Start with your deluxe reverb. Get an RCA to 1/4 inch adaptor. Take the return line from the reverb pan and plug it into the normal channel on your DR. You now have tone and volume control for the reverb. Use a clean boost, if you have one, in your guitar signal path to add a bit of brightness. This will really ramp up your reverb with what you have to work with. Very close to an outboard reverb without the dwell control. I'd start with the Revisit pan. Enjoy!

The Kahuna Kings

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Wow. The Surfy looks very cool. Will defiantly Check out.

I just found this discussion.
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/reverb-tank-cardboard-no-not-kidding.1229216/

I do have my revisit tank double bagged. So the tank is not directly touching the cardboard in the second bag. I’m going to try removing the extra bag to see if that makes a difference. If it does, even if it’s subtle I may try mounting the tank directly or replacing the cardboard with wood to see if that brightens up the drip.

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