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For sound, I don't see the worth in recent LP's if they are digitally mastered. Transferring digital to vinyl doesn't make the source any less digital and only introduces the problems of surface noise, reduced channel separation, limits to bandwidth, among other vinyl issues. But ya do get the nice expanded artwork. Hence, I only buy vinyl if it is from an all-analog process or includes an HD download. Otherwise, I'm still primarily a CD buyer.

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Last edited: Jan 08, 2017 14:49:03

Earlier somebody brought up VHS tapes and CDs literally going obsolete. I don't think it's as obscure of a scenario as you think. Most laptops don't have them anymore, car stereos are phasing them out, and home entertainment is much more focused on Bluetooth. Your blu-ray player will probably still play them, but lately it's almost easier to find a turntable.

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crumble wrote:

I wish I could afford to be a lofty audiophile! I use mp3 for nearly everything but my point is we are on a downward quality spiral and the internet needs beefing up a little before we can lose the CD completely.

Speeds are more than fast enough to stream 96khz or 24-bit audio. The real problem is data caps. If you can stream HAD video, you will have no problem streaming beyond CD quality.

I like the vinyl and download, combo.
My car is 14 years old so I can't stream or bluetooth to my radio, so i also like CDs. I do have a a phono-jack to cassette for listening to my iPod in the car. Hi-tech!!!

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I agree with Ivan. However, I have another point on this discussion. Unless my house is destroyed, my cd's are still going to be there. I've had digital crashes before and was left empty handed. This was before you could purchase backup media cheaply. I have multiple backups of everything that I value today but I still like the real cd. Smile

The last Bradipos IV album was a LP with a cd also,
That is awesome.

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PolloGuitar wrote:

I like the vinyl and download, combo.
My car is 14 years old so I can't stream or bluetooth to my radio, so i also like CDs. I do have a a phono-jack to cassette for listening to my iPod in the car. Hi-tech!!!

I know you're a bit of a luddite Ferenc, but seriously - a new car stereo with aux input, cd player and other modern conveniences are around $50...

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Last edited: Jan 08, 2017 19:42:06

I got a bluetooth one for $40 on Amazon, works brilliantly.

In answer to the post question.
I think CD's are pretty much dead . . . . most car stereo's have aux input or Bluetooth connect, if you really need a CD you could just burn a copy from the digital file on your home PC.

Reminds me of a story . . . . my old late Auntie told me years ago that, back in 1968 she went to the local department store to buy a film camera to take home movies of the family, the salesman said " Yes, this is one you want, 8mm film camera, its the latest, its the future" so she bought it, next year they brought out the new system, Super 8.
Its always gonna be something new around the corner
But vinyl will always be cool.

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Last edited: Jan 09, 2017 02:07:40

wfoguy wrote:

...Unless my house is destroyed, my cd's are still going to be there. I've had digital crashes before and was left empty handed. This was before you could purchase backup media cheaply. I have multiple backups of everything that I value today but I still like the real cd. Smile

You're reminding me about the best thing about my 8-track collection (yes, I really have such); When I come home to find my place has been robbed, they'll still be there. It's probably also true with CD's now. On the digital front, I'm just like you. I have everything on hard drive for easy access and backed up in three places - one of which is off site. But I still keep the hard copy CD's. -Marty

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Digital only for me. I love album artwork and booklets and love physical releases but shipping costs and storage/moving (I live in an apartment) kill it for me. I just plug my computer or player into a sound system. The last few dozen CDs I bought have never been played, just ripped.

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I have 5 or 6 large & heavy boxes filled with CDs. I've digitized them all and listen to them that way. The CDs just sit in the boxes now. So in a way, they are obsolete. But what to do with them? Take them to Ameoba and get maybe 1$ each on them? Or sell them 1 at a time on Ebay for $3-$10 each? I don't have time for that, and I'd still lose money.

Lately, I only buy the CD when that is the only option. I prefer the vinyl + download option, but not for everything. Some bands are good just being digital only for me. But some bands I want the full experience.

I'm not sure if that answers the question. I guess I'm not really decided yet.

JakeDobner wrote:

crumble wrote:

I wish I could afford to be a lofty audiophile! I use mp3 for nearly everything but my point is we are on a downward quality spiral and the internet needs beefing up a little before we can lose the CD completely.

Speeds are more than fast enough to stream 96khz or 24-bit audio. The real problem is data caps. If you can stream HAD video, you will have no problem streaming beyond CD quality.

I done said all Jake! Interesting comment on Clarkson's Grand Tour this week though. In the UK we have a surplus of 5% energy/electric, In the USA you have zero surplus energy. This is all to due to the massive demand of electronic devices.

I do recording/mixing/mastering. CD's still seem to make sense for touring bands. The cost of CD manufacturing is very competitive now and a band can do a healthy mark up that generates some funds for gas,rooms,rent etc...

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There are still record collectors in the world who don´t own a computer, iphone or a car. So they are still depending on cds and vnyl records.
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Ted, if I may ask, for Frankenstomp, How many LPs and Cds were pressed.
And how many of each have sold so far?

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Jeff, if you think I'm the type that keeps some kind of spreadsheet to have these numbers for you, you don't know me very well, but as I said before, "in the last couple of years, I've noticed that our sales have downloads in first place, vinyl in second and cds trail a distant third".
Does that answer your question? Sorry I don't have time to go through boxes and count for you, plus some of the inventory is in OR. Smile

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Last edited: Jan 10, 2017 13:01:40

I didn't want an exact count, just a round about number.
But whatever. I hope you keep making cds, but I get it if you stop.

Vinyl is cool, I buy them, but don't listen to them often.
I have a CD player in my truck, front room stereo, and bedroom clock radio.

Jeff(bigtikidude)

I can't even give you a round number, but I appreciate it. I have a feeling we will get a cd done too, just maybe not as many as past releases. We can always make more if needed!

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I'm with Brian, essentially, I guess. Who wants physical media clutter? My vinyl takes up too much room already. Like josheboy, my CDs have long since been packed away in boxes and the data has been extracted to my media server. Those still on the shelf are the ones I acquired at gigs and serve only to remind me of good times. They have only extrinsic value. That said, a few discs are really fun to own. The slick presentation of TomorrowMen's Futourism comes to mind. Cool package! But I never actually listen to the disc except while ripping to lossless format. FLAC is where it's at.

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Last edited: Jan 17, 2017 12:01:04

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