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CrazyAces wrote:

Badger wrote:

"lightweight 12." I suppose a little closed-back thing with an even-tempered 75-100w capable speaker could fill the bill. Many of those to choose from.

We've got an 12" Eminence Lil Texas Neo magnet speaker coming tomorrow to try out. It's a high sensitivity (101db) speaker with 150 watt handling that weighs 4 pounds. I've tried the 101 with a handful of speakers already including one older Jensen Neo, not the Tornado. The Jensen Neo sounded pretty good with it but a little dull and lifeless.
We'd like to find a Neo that will work for us so that we can build some smaller, lightweight cabs for the 101's and keep travel easy.

Cheers,
Jeff

Yo Jeff,

Just wondering if you have had a chance to experiment with any additional speakers / cabinets?

I've been strongly considering a Quilter Mini paired up with a good cabinet, likely some sort of 1x15". My aim is to find a more versatile rig to replace / augment my Fender Vibroverb RI.

I'd love to be able to pair up the Quilter with a cab that would get close to a mini Fender Showman sound, if that's doable?

Also, how does it do with the Zoom effects pedal? I have the Zoom MS70-CDR that I really like.

METEOR IV on reverbnation

Last edited: Feb 13, 2016 09:18:52

On the subject of lunch boxes.........

Several years after my dad passed in the late 80's, my sisters and I were going through "stuff" that he had stored in the attic. Like most attics, it was a place where the family seldom went.

I found two interesting things.

The first one was a NOS General Electronics oscilloscope, the one with the giant round display like you see in the 50's Sci-Fi movies. It had never been opened . Shipping date on the box was 1952. I still have it. Although I did open the box and take a look, I've never removed it from the box. Really cool piece.

The second cool thing I discovered was what looked exactly like a lunch box. It wasn't. It was a late 30's or 40's geiger counter. All complete, still had the geiger-moller tube. It has since disappeared. I suspect foul play..................

My uncle was a career Army office in the Chemical Corps and was present at a lot of bomb tests. It was probably was his.

ed

Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?

Las_Barracudas wrote:

Yo Jeff,

Just wondering if you have had a chance to experiment with any additional speakers / cabinets?

The list of speakers (Mostly 12" so far as well as 1x8" and 1x10") that we've tried with the Quilter 101 is reasonably long now after a few months.
I have to say that unlike a lot of tube amps this thing sounds pretty good to great with almost every speaker we've tried. It's way less fussy as to what it's projecting through.

Speakers we've tried so far:
Jensen C12K - 4ohm - too dark and "thick" sounding
Jensen Mod 70 4 ohm - Good sound, not very "rich"
'59 Jensen P12Q - great for low to medium volume Fender stuff
Mojotone BV-30H (G12H Greenback copy) - good for low to medium volume but a little bright
'05 Jensen P12Q reissue - adequate Fender tones-low to mid volume - not that "vibey", bright
'66 Jensen C12N - real nice Fender tones to medium volume, a hair bright
WGS G12C-S - full and rich but some bad cone cry when used loud
WGS ET90 - 4 and 8 ohm versions - our favorite so far, quiet to very loud. A mix of Fender and AC-30. 4 ohm in a medium size Marshall 18 watt style cab sounds absolutely Huge, much bigger sounding than one would think. Low end thump for days.
Eminence Legend (Can't remember which one) - Good for low to medium volume but brittle highs
Jensen Neo - 4 ohm original version (discontinued) - good, full range up to loud volume but a little "boring" and bland sounding
Eminence Lil Texas Neo - full, pleasing range, a bit scooped. Sounds good quiet to raging loud. One of the best new Fender/Jensen sounding speakers I've heard yet in many years of looking. The WGS ET90 beat this out for "character" to us but the Lil Texas with our Fender tube amps sounded wonderful.
EV 12L - Good to great overall but this speaker was in a small ported thiele cabinet and in that configuration had way too much low end "Thump" to us but maybe not for some here.
Eminence Alnico 10" - Good for lower volume, sounded like a Princeton
Weber ceramic 8" 4ohm - pretty loud but don't crank it! LOL

We were looking for a 12" speaker to use with the 101 that sounded good for coffee shop to outdoor stage if possible (tall order) and hoped to find a Neo light weight speaker but in the end (for now) we ended up liking the WGS ET90. They have a 90 - 100 watt rating so they can keep up with the amp's capabilities, have good lows, highs and mids and they sound good playing quiet or loud.
We put an 8 ohm version in a small, vintage, lightweight film projector speaker cabinet that can also house the head for transport. This rig is still under 15 pounds and will work for small gigs to clubs.
We have a 4 ohm version of the ET90 in a Birch, 18 watt Marshall style cabinet that's about half the size of a Showman cab, not as deep but the 101 through that can be downright thunderous and it's still light weight and portable.

If you're going to use this amp for louder playing be careful. It can and will kill a 30 - 50 watt rated speaker. This is why we investigated the Eminence Lil Texas (125watt) and the WGS ET90 (90-100 watts)

I think a high wattage Alnico like the Celestion Cream 100 watt or a WGS Blackbird would sound killer with one of these 101's but then again could have a little too much bass response...?

Also, how does it do with the Zoom effects pedal? I have the Zoom MS70-CDR that I really like.

We are currently using the Zoom G3 for small quieter gigs and the MS-50 on our regular boards for bigger gigs and both Zoom pedals work really well with the 101. No complaints.
With the G3 and the 101 it's a whole lot of Go power in a small footprint.

We have a small restaurant gig this week with no drummer and we'll be using the 101's and Zooms. If I can get video/audio I'll post it.

Hope that helps some

Jeff

http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic
http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyacesrock
http://www.reverbnation.com/crazyacesmusic

Last edited: Feb 13, 2016 19:10:40

CrazyAces wrote:

Las_Barracudas wrote:

Yo Jeff,

Just wondering if you have had a chance to experiment with any additional speakers / cabinets?

The list of speakers (Mostly 12" so far as well as 1x8" and 1x10") that we've tried with the Quilter 101 is reasonably long now after a few months.
I have to say that unlike a lot of tube amps this thing sounds pretty good to great with almost every speaker we've tried. It's way less fussy as to what it's projecting through.

Speakers we've tried so far:
Jensen C12K - 4ohm - too dark and "thick" sounding
Jensen Mod 70 4 ohm - Good sound, not very "rich"
'59 Jensen P12Q - great for low to medium volume Fender stuff
Mojotone BV-30H (G12H Greenback copy) - good for low to medium volume but a little bright
'05 Jensen P12Q reissue - adequate Fender tones-low to mid volume - not that "vibey", bright
'66 Jensen C12N - real nice Fender tones to medium volume, a hair bright
WGS G12C-S - full and rich but some bad cone cry when used loud
WGS ET90 - 4 and 8 ohm versions - our favorite so far, quiet to very loud. A mix of Fender and AC-30. 4 ohm in a medium size Marshall 18 watt style cab sounds absolutely Huge, much bigger sounding than one would think. Low end thump for days.
Eminence Legend (Can't remember which one) - Good for low to medium volume but brittle highs
Jensen Neo - 4 ohm original version (discontinued) - good, full range up to loud volume but a little "boring" and bland sounding
Eminence Lil Texas Neo - full, pleasing range, a bit scooped. Sounds good quiet to raging loud. One of the best new Fender/Jensen sounding speakers I've heard yet in many years of looking. The WGS ET90 beat this out for "character" to us but the Lil Texas with our Fender tube amps sounded wonderful.
EV 12L - Good to great overall but this speaker was in a small ported thiele cabinet and in that configuration had way too much low end "Thump" to us but maybe not for some here.
Eminence Alnico 10" - Good for lower volume, sounded like a Princeton
Weber ceramic 8" 4ohm - pretty loud but don't crank it! LOL

We were looking for a 12" speaker to use with the 101 that sounded good for coffee shop to outdoor stage if possible (tall order) and hoped to find a Neo light weight speaker but in the end (for now) we ended up liking the WGS ET90. They have a 90 - 100 watt rating so they can keep up with the amp's capabilities, have good lows, highs and mids and they sound good playing quiet or loud.
We put an 8 ohm version in a small, vintage, lightweight film projector speaker cabinet that can also house the head for transport. This rig is still under 15 pounds and will work for small gigs to clubs.
We have a 4 ohm version of the ET90 in a Birch, 18 watt Marshall style cabinet that's about half the size of a Showman cab, not as deep but the 101 through that can be downright thunderous and it's still light weight and portable.

If you're going to use this amp for louder playing be careful. It can and will kill a 30 - 50 watt rated speaker. This is why we investigated the Eminence Lil Texas (125watt) and the WGS ET90 (90-100 watts)

I think a high wattage Alnico like the Celestion Cream 100 watt or a WGS Blackbird would sound killer with one of these 101's but then again could have a little too much bass response...?

Also, how does it do with the Zoom effects pedal? I have the Zoom MS70-CDR that I really like.

We are currently using the Zoom G3 for small quieter gigs and the MS-50 on our regular boards for bigger gigs and both Zoom pedals work really well with the 101. No complaints.
With the G3 and the 101 it's a whole lot of Go power in a small footprint.

We have a small restaurant gig this week with no drummer and we'll be using the 101's and Zooms. If I can get video/audio I'll post it.

Hope that helps some

Jeff

Wow, thanks so much for the detailed input Jeff. It definitely helps.

Having used this rig for awhile now, do you think I could dial in a "mini Showman" sound with it paired with the right cabinet / speaker?

I know it's a versatile head capable of different amp sounds but I'd be purchasing it in hopes of obtaining a good trad Surf sound.

If practical here's what I'm hoping for:

  • Quilter Mini 101
  • 1x15" closed-back or convertible type cabinet equipped with a speaker akin to a JBL.
  • Zoom MS-70CDR (for reverbs & delays) or possibly use my Texotica Reverb unit.

I'm trying to rework my main gigging rig using as little equipment as possible and having as small a footprint as possible. Not ruling out a 1x12 cabinet btw.

Thanks

METEOR IV on reverbnation

Last edited: Feb 14, 2016 08:10:54

Las_Barracudas wrote:

Having used this rig for awhile now, do you think I could dial in a "mini Showman" sound with it paired with the right cabinet / speaker?

I know it's a versatile head capable of different amp sounds but I'd be purchasing it in hopes of obtaining a good trad Surf sound.

If practical here's what I'm hoping for:

  • Quilter Mini 101
  • 1x15" closed-back or convertible type cabinet equipped with a speaker akin to a JBL.
  • Zoom MS-70CDR (for reverbs & delays) or possibly use my Texotica Reverb unit.

I'm trying to rework my main gigging rig using as little equipment as possible and having as small a footprint as possible. Not ruling out a 1x12 cabinet btw.

Exactly the kind of thing I was curious about when I tagged this thread. (Liking the Meteor IV stuff up on your Reverbnation page btw.)

Thanks Jeff for all the impressions of the various speakers. Must've looked like a mad scientist's lab while you compiled all this stuff in your search.
Cool

Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel

DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices.

Badger wrote:

Las_Barracudas wrote:

Having used this rig for awhile now, do you think I could dial in a "mini Showman" sound with it paired with the right cabinet / speaker?

I know it's a versatile head capable of different amp sounds but I'd be purchasing it in hopes of obtaining a good trad Surf sound.

If practical here's what I'm hoping for:

  • Quilter Mini 101
  • 1x15" closed-back or convertible type cabinet equipped with a speaker akin to a JBL.
  • Zoom MS-70CDR (for reverbs & delays) or possibly use my Texotica Reverb unit.

I'm trying to rework my main gigging rig using as little equipment as possible and having as small a footprint as possible. Not ruling out a 1x12 cabinet btw.

Exactly the kind of thing I was curious about when I tagged this thread. (Liking the Meteor IV stuff up on your Reverbnation page btw.)

Thanks Jeff for all the impressions of the various speakers. Must've looked like a mad scientist's lab while you compiled all this stuff in your search.
Cool

Right on; thanks man!

METEOR IV on reverbnation

Las_Barracudas wrote:

Wow, thanks so much for the detailed input Jeff. It definitely helps.

No problem. I hope some of the info helps

Having used this rig for awhile now, do you think I could dial in a "mini Showman" sound with it paired with the right cabinet / speaker?

I know it's a versatile head capable of different amp sounds but I'd be purchasing it in hopes of obtaining a good trad Surf sound.

If practical here's what I'm hoping for:

  • Quilter Mini 101
  • 1x15" closed-back or convertible type cabinet equipped with a speaker akin to a JBL.
  • Zoom MS-70CDR (for reverbs & delays) or possibly use my Texotica Reverb unit.

I'm trying to rework my main gigging rig using as little equipment as possible and having as small a footprint as possible. Not ruling out a 1x12 cabinet btw.

Thanks

After spending a few months with this amp I think you'd have no problem getting the sound you are after and I think the 1x15 would be great.
My bandmate and I were able to get some huge Fender-ish sounds with a Strat and Jag plugged into it.
He's more finicky and picky than I am about gear but he finally bought a 101 yesterday.

Cheers,
Jeff

http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic
http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyacesrock
http://www.reverbnation.com/crazyacesmusic

Badger wrote:

Thanks Jeff for all the impressions of the various speakers. Must've looked like a mad scientist's lab while you compiled all this stuff in your search.
Cool

Ha Ha. It wasn't too bad since we did this over a few months, some speakers stayed in for a few weeks, others just minutes.
I got really tired of speaker shopping, testing a few years back due to an excess of such folly in the previous ten years with my vintage amps (if they needed a speaker replaced) so you know I must like this little amp if I was willing to go this distance, plus I already owned many of these speakers.

Cheers,
Jeff

http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic
http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyacesrock
http://www.reverbnation.com/crazyacesmusic

Our band gigged with our Quilter Minis the last two days at the Sacramento Autorama. We played in a mega-HUGE building, running the Quilters with 15 inch cabs through a double PA system and they performed in a stellar fashion. The sound in front of the stage while loud, was not beyond the level where people could talk and hear each other. On the other hand, we had a couple of people from the far end of the room complain that the sound was too loud. Acoustics in a room that large are hard to predict or control. Second photo is the view from the stage.
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Last edited: Feb 14, 2016 16:12:41

Rob,
What are those 1x15 slanted cabinets?

Cheers,
Jeff

http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic
http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyacesrock
http://www.reverbnation.com/crazyacesmusic

Are any of you users missing the standard EQ controls (bass, treble)?

METEOR IV on reverbnation

CrazyAces wrote:

Rob,
What are those 1x15 slanted cabinets?

Beat me to it!

Edit to add: I'd have loved to be at that show. Cool

Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel

DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices.

Last edited: Feb 14, 2016 17:05:15

That "hall" is immense! I would imagine the acoustics would be terrible for a full band. Might sound good for a soloist, like Paul Horn in the Taj Mahal...

Squink Out!

Las_Barracudas wrote:

Are any of you users missing the standard EQ controls (bass, treble)?

I thought I would.
I'm typically suspicious of EQ controls that stray from the simplicity of Bass, Middle, Treble but I also adore some of the simple early Tweed era circuits that just have volume and maybe tone.
The Quilter 101's few tone controls are really well thought out and voiced
in a usable way.

I don't miss standard tone controls.

The different voicings on this unit also help in relation to different EQ/tones.

I did try a friend's Aviator Head and it was nice to have those good old tone controls but the amps sounded about the same and after picking a speaker I like I find I don't miss additional features

Cheers,
Jeff

http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic
http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyacesrock
http://www.reverbnation.com/crazyacesmusic

JObeast wrote:

That "hall" is immense! I would imagine the acoustics would be terrible for a full band. Might sound good for a soloist, like Paul Horn in the Taj Mahal...

"Band needed for gig. Must bring own amps and guitars but reverb is provided by the hall"

LOL

http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic
http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyacesrock
http://www.reverbnation.com/crazyacesmusic

Once a friend and I did an impromptu jam in a parking structure with a rhythm box and two guitars. Of course, I used a fuzz box and wah back then. Best hall reverb you could ask for.

Squink Out!

Rob,
What are those 1x15 slanted cabinets?

The cabinets are made by a company called Coyote Cabs. We had them made a few years ago. Very lightweight and portable, especially with neo speakers in them. https://www.facebook.com/coyotecabs/

The rhythm player's cab has a Fender badge on it but it was just added - it's not a Fender product. He also has a second extension cab stacked on top made from a gutted old Fender amp - forget the exact one.

Last edited: Feb 14, 2016 18:47:12

I'm kind of torn between a Victoria Tweed Deluxe or a Quilter Mach 2. I saw JD Mcpherson use a quilter mach 2 and sounded great ! Though I played a Victoria Tweed Deluxe and it was great. I need to try the quilter just because....

I used my 101 mini head for the first time last night using an open back 2 x 12 with EVM-12L speakers. Of course it defeated the purpose of the lightweight head, the speakers weighed about as much as a Twin Reverb but wow, what a sound. I host an open mic every Tuesday so it went through a variety of styles with several different players using it. I ran through all the voices, using the Lead the most, it sounded brighter to me. It sounded fantastic, loud and clean for my instro set and then a friend used it for a metal set (AC/DC, Judas Priest, Alice in Chains), plugging straight into the head and cranked the gain all the way. I thought he had used my overdrive and distortion pedals but it was just the amp getting lots of nice distortion. I'm no metal head but it sounded right to me. There were several older guys and vintage amp users there and everyone was very impressed, gathering around to see the little beast and having lots of questions. I think I may have sold a few.

Rob_J wrote:

The cabinets are made by a company called Coyote Cabs. We had them made a few years ago. Very lightweight and portable, especially with neo speakers in them. https://www.facebook.com/coyotecabs/

I love the look, pricing & options of those cabinets. I DO wish people would quit limiting their online biz presence to FB - when I get the 'Login Required' they immediately drop points in my view. Major pet-peeve. Fortunately for those who don't do FB some stuff is viewable on ebay as seller 'robm99362'
Sigh

Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel

DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices.

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