Nokie
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So Cal
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Posted on May 09 2015 07:25 PM
JONPAUL wrote:
I am excited by this new Catalinbread version of the Fuzzrite, however I need to correct whomever it was who wrote the ad-copy in the link given here wherein it states that The Ventures used the FuzzRite in '62 on "2000 lb Bee". The Ventures did NOT use the FuzzRite on "2000 lb Bee". It is well documented that the fuzz box used on that track was made by Red Rhodes (the famous pedal steel guitarist). The FuzzRite was developed and went into production some years later - in late '66 or early '67. On the other hand, Nokie Edwards has been quoted as saying that he believes the FuzzRite used the Red Rhodes design. An actual comparison confirming this has not been made. The Ventures did use the FuzzRite extensively on their "Wild Things" album. -Marty
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TVTheWiredTurtle
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Sandy Eggo
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Posted on May 14 2015 03:29 AM
Okay, order canceled. Thanks guys! Who's willing to put a nice germanium fuzz together for me or point me in the direction of a useful kit?! I am totally after that Fuzzrite sound, but the Ashbass pedals are simply (almost) unavailable in the EU....
in the UK get a D.A.M. Fuzzwrong FR69 with OC76 & CV7003 Ge transistors on perf board, using the same layout as the original.
I dont understand what catalinbread is doing other than repackaging the Merkin Fuzz they've had out for a while that is their Fuzzrite.. I will guess that maybe they have found a nice supply of original transistors within spec. The merkin fuzz uses the wrong transistors.. I mean this is not a hard circuit but you really have to get the parts right to make it sound good. I bust my butt measuring my metal can transistors to get a pair within spec and throw out a ton that arent up to par, to make the Seltzerado fuzz sound like an original.
I'd love to know how this catalinbread rehype is any better than mojohand's, ashbrites or mine even.. maybe its more middle of the road and well behaved for the average guitarist, kind of like a Fender Blues Deluxe amp that gets the job done for a variety of guitars without any real great original voice. ?? I would like to see comparison vids.
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SanchoPansen
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Berlin L-Berg
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Posted on May 14 2015 03:36 AM
Thanks for the hint!
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imafunkyman
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Posts: 548
Utah
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Posted on May 14 2015 10:04 PM
Tavo, I must admit that I'm trying to decide between the Merkin and your Seltzerado. I like them both, but there can be only one!
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TVTheWiredTurtle
Joined: Dec 03, 2009
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Sandy Eggo
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Posted on May 15 2015 03:22 AM
imafunkyman wrote:
Tavo, I must admit that I'm trying to decide between the Merkin and your Seltzerado. I like them both, but there can be only one!
I think the merkin is versatile, but it never really gets to that authentic point. It cant because its a mass production item (as far as boutique small companies, they have high volume orders). It is however built very well using good quality components and constructed for durability.. Maybe thats best in some cases. I'm gonna say I was more impressed with my Mojohand than I was with my Merkin. I guess I'm gonna have to shell out the $150 for this fuzzrite out of curiosity to compare it to the merkin despite their ludicrous hyperbole of it being the only box deserving the name Fuzzrite.
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SURFmole
Joined: Nov 22, 2007
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Portland, OR
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Posted on May 20 2015 04:28 AM
The Catalinbread doesn't sound like it nails what I'd be looking for in a "Fuzzrite" pedal. It isn't trebly or shrill enough, and as was even mentioned in the video, it lacks any "sputtering". It seems like a great sounding pedal, but reminds me more of a Fuzz Face or Tonebender.
I've said it before, but I'll say it again...the Zvex Mastotron nails nearly every vintage fuzz tone. It's a really versatile pedal.
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MelPhantomSurfers
Joined: Aug 21, 2008
Posts: 50
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Posted on Sep 19 2015 08:44 PM
Hi Friends,
I don't usually check in here, but a google search brought me to this link. I gotta chime in on this one.
1) Most of the opinions n this thread seem to be based on the circuit design/components, and not on how the thing sounds! What is up with that?
2) One person here said it sounded good, but compared to what? The reason I ask, is that I have four old Mosrite Fuzzrites, and have had two others that I gave away to friends in the past. I can tell you unequivocally they all sound slightly different. Different only to the fuzz geek, but different nonetheless. I would bet, based on my experience w Catalinbread pedals that it probably sounds pretty darn authentic. Authentic enough at any rate. Their Topanga and Echorec products are certainly authentic enough.
3) $150 seems very reasonable for a product with a warranty, and from a reputable company with a good track record vs some nerd building a box in his room. Also consider that resale vale will be higher.
4) I saw the Red Rhodes box at Nokies house, and he did confirm to me that he used it on 2000 lb bee. But I have also learned to take things like that from old music guys with a grain of salt. I have a pic of that RR box somewhere.
Anyway, all I am saying is use your ears to evaluate, not your brain. It'l make you happier!
Mel
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Sep 19 2015 10:09 PM
I just bought one of these, I'm quite the fan. I'm not a fuzz person and don't seek out old units. My search for a fuzz came from the needs to have what I consider a 'sinister' fuzz. Something that isn't just thick and wooly. The Catalinbread Fuzzrite really fit my needs after hearing some sound samples online, and for $150, the small size, and with really solid construction I was sold. There are a bunch of clones I could have gone for, some would have cost less, but they are larger, I have no way of knowing the quality, and lack of samples.
I really like putting the Fuzzrite into my POG2 and setting the wet mix all the way down on the POG2, just a really cool huge sound. Fuzzy instros are not my personal playing style, so I don't really go that route but I do really enjoy making noise with the Fuzzrite! It is like banging around on piano, the fun part is just making noise.
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Rich_S
Joined: Feb 17, 2014
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Potsdam, NY
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Posted on Sep 20 2015 11:13 AM
I respect the hell outta Catalinbread. They make a lot of great pedals and generally put in a lot of design and tweaking time to make them special (and worth their price tag) but I don't see what you can do to a Fuzzrite to make it worth $150.
I got nostaglic one day, listened to In A Gadda Da Vida in the car, and decided to build a Fuzzrite. The circuit is so simple I just did my own layout on a scrap of Radio Shack prototyping board. I housed it in a black-crinkle Hammond box I had lying around, and topped it with some old knobs I saved off an old Heathkit oscilloscope after it exploded. Here it is with its sister Triangle Muff, built at the same time.
Not long ago, I wanted the Fuzzrite on my main pedalboard, but only had space for a single MXR-sized box. So... what the heck, just build another. They're that simple. For this one, I used a published perfboard layout, splurged and bought the perf-trace-cutting tool.
They both sound like Fuzzrites to me. They have that clicky-attack thing going on for sure. Did I say the Fuzzrite is simple?
So, all due respect to Catalinbread, but I'll stick with my cheapies.
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skeeter
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
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Virginia, USA
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Posted on Feb 10 2016 02:28 PM
Just got one of these.
My Verbafuzz bit the dust and I couldn't live without a fuzz pedal.
I like it! Slightly less splattery than other fuzz rite clones I've heard, but it's still got the sound! Definitely more tinny and shrill than that Pro Guitar shop demo.
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Corey_Y
Joined: Dec 30, 2015
Posts: 162
Poland, Ohio
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Posted on Feb 10 2016 02:38 PM
I have one and like it, but I'm not using it much. It is fun to noodle around with though. I need to write some songs that feature it or just sell it. I haven't owned any other Fuzzrite style pedals in the past though. Just lots of experience with modded Big Muff, Fuzz Face and Superfuzz style pedals and never for anything surf related.
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JONPAUL
Joined: Apr 29, 2010
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Venice, CA
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Posted on Sep 22 2016 07:24 PM
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skeeter
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Virginia, USA
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Posted on Oct 06 2016 02:24 PM
Hmmm... I wonder if there's any difference in this latest incarnation form Catalinbread or if they just added Mark Moseley's name on the case?
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Atomic Mosquitos
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JONPAUL
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Venice, CA
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Posted on Oct 13 2016 06:02 PM
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warioblast
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Dijon
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Posted on Oct 13 2016 06:22 PM
I found the last demo very frustrating. Stop tweaking those knobs ! They should get an A/B box or something, or ask another guy to do the switching.
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skeeter
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Virginia, USA
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Posted on Oct 18 2016 04:23 PM
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Nokie
Joined: Oct 06, 2008
Posts: 550
So Cal
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Posted on Oct 19 2016 02:22 PM
MelPhantomSurfers wrote:
Hi Friends,
I don't usually check in here, but a google search brought me to this link. I gotta chime in on this one...
4) I saw the Red Rhodes box at Nokies house, and he did confirm to me that he used it on 2000 lb bee. But I have also learned to take things like that from old music guys with a grain of salt. I have a pic of that RR box somewhere.
Anyway, all I am saying is use your ears to evaluate, not your brain. It'l make you happier!
Mel
That's purdy cool! I didn't know the Red Rhodes fuzz device still existed. I am also one to take stories from the old greats with a good dose of skepticism. However, Nokie's 2000 lb Bee recollection that it wasn't recorded with a Fuzzrite is well triangulated with other notes: 2000 lb Bee was released so much earlier (1962 I think) than the commercial appearance of the Fuzzrite (4 or 5 years later). The story of Red Rhodes constructing the fuzz device has been around since early Ventures fanclub letters, i.e. it's not just a recent Nokie story. When Mark Moseley in the Catalinbread clip says the Fuzzrite is used on 2000 lb Bee, my skepticism kicks in again with respect to his true knowledge on the subject. However, I can say 2000 lb Bee sounds just like the Fuzzrite even if it couldn't be a production unit.
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Chippertheripper
Joined: Mar 11, 2011
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Semass
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Posted on Nov 25 2016 03:59 PM
I just went and played one real quick. I feel like the demographic here would love this thing, but it wasn't grizzly enough for me.
It has a sweet classic sound, I'm chasing something a little different.
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