bigtikidude wrote:

First, it's in the shallow end.
Where we can discuss non surf stuff, if we want.

Second, it was a thread in praise of a landmark album.
Not asking if it was or wasn't.

Third, if it's a style of music you don't know or like.
Why chime in? Talk about pissing on our parade. Ooooof!

Best I'm thrown off the site.

In my life I've said more than a few things I soon wished I hadn't, usually while trying to be especially clever, but sometimes when frustrated or angry. (EDIT: ... or overly excited!) There've been a few times here when I, and a select few others, have wanted to jump ship. We're all passionate about music, and passions can sometimes get the best of anyone.

This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.

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crumble wrote:

Bringing SG101 into disrepute. Arguing in an environment where bands and fans coexist. Please accept my humble apologies one and all. American site which I am a guest and grateful for I have no authority what so ever but as a surf fan I do find endless pages about heavy metal distracting. I wasn't my intention to perpetuate the thread at all.

I don't understand this paragraph at all. I'm done with this thread.

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BillyBlastOff wrote:

Ok, so who wants to start a surfed out Tribute To Sabbath Cd? We got dibs on War Pigs! As a matter a fact, already threw it on the "BANNED from the BEACH setlist months ago!

War Pigs is quite possibly my fave Black Sabbath song. L O V E (!!!) Faith No More's version of War Pigs. (Attached for your listening pleasure. You're all welcome. )

Would love to hear how y'all do this 'surfed out'!

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bigtikidude wrote:

BillyBlastOff wrote:

In my honest opinion, if your gonna cover any Sabbath tunes live, you better have two guitar players. Just sayin'.

Tell that to Tony Iommi.

I'm talkin' about Instrumental Bands, uh, as in Surf bands covering Sabbath. One guitarist to play Ozzy's vocal melody, and the other to cover lead and or ryhthm or else it might sound pretty empty. I'm guessing Tony dubbed the ryhthm guitar in the studio himself, unless he brought in a studio player. Dunno, but, it's there. Made all the difference.

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Uggggggh, why did it have to be Popoff? His research is great but his writing is usually insufferable. It's been several years of trying and I still can't get through his Sabbath book.

If really sucks he's the one writing books about UFO, Deep Purple, Blue Oyster Cult, Scorpions, etc.

That was excessively violent and completely unnecessary. I loved it.

I'm a big Sabbath fan(the Ozzy years to be specific). Truly groundbreaking stuff and highly influential in the hard rock and metal world, even more-so today where there seems to be hundreds of what I call “Sabbath Core” bands that more or less sound like an extension of Sabbath. But "invent" is a strong word. You can't give all the credit to that one album in the same way you can't give all the credit to Surfer's Choice by Dick Dale. Like Sabbath, Dale, The Sex Pistols and other pioneers of any musical genre there are more architects to a musical movement than meet the eye.

If you listen to many European, British and several American acts from before Sabbath you'll hear what they were going for. But they made it their own. Great early "heavy" bands like Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin were making big noise before Sabbath, not to mention many smaller bands.

I think with any musical form it's fun to study the development of the sound and be careful not to give all the credit to one band, even if that band is as great and influential as Black Sabbath.

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I bought the first lp when it first hit the stands and then got Paranoid that Sept. They played their first ever US date here in Baton Rouge right after Paranoid came out. I was deaf for 3 days, it was great!

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Birmingham in the UK are discussing a Heavy Metal Museum.

And so they should.

They should make awards like the Oscars-
Maybe a gold statuette of a headless chicken?

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