IvanP
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Posted on Feb 13 2015 01:49 PM
On Friday, February 13th (Friday the 13th just like today!), 1970, the debut album of Black Sabbath was released - and the world would never be the same!!!
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psychonaut
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Posted on Feb 13 2015 01:59 PM
One of my earliest album purchases. I still have it, and a British pressing on Vertigo as well ( it has a gatefold cover and Evil Woman in place of Wicked World) I still listen to it often!
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Noel
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Posted on Feb 13 2015 02:00 PM
I believe Paranoid was released in the US before their self-titled first album. Paranoid was the very first music cassette I ever bought. I think I still have it, but after over a half-dozen moves, I have no idea where it is.
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IvanP
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Posted on Feb 13 2015 02:04 PM
psychonaut wrote:
One of my earliest album purchases. I still have it, and a British pressing on Vertigo as well ( it has a gatefold cover and Evil Woman in place of Wicked World) I still listen to it often!
Tony, of course, using a Strat on Wicked World - sounds pretty good to my ears! Too bad he didn't stick with it.
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IvanP
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Posted on Feb 13 2015 02:07 PM
Noel wrote:
I believe Paranoid was released in the US before their self-titled first album.
Checking Wikipedia now, that doesn't seem to be the case, Noel. The debut was released in the US on June 1st 1970, while Paranoid came out worldwide in September. But yes, the release of the debut in the US was delayed by a few months compared to the UK release.
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Noel
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Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.
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Posted on Feb 13 2015 02:13 PM
IvanP wrote:
Noel wrote:
I believe Paranoid was released in the US before their self-titled first album.
Checking Wikipedia now, that doesn't seem to be the case, Noel. The debut was released in the US on June 1st 1970, while Paranoid came out worldwide in September. But yes, the release of the debut in the US was delayed by a few months compared to the UK release.
Well, I lived in Pittsburgh, so we got everything late, anyway.
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IvanP
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Posted on Feb 13 2015 02:15 PM
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timbliz
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Posted on Feb 13 2015 02:31 PM
I fixed the photobomber
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IvanP
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Posted on Feb 13 2015 02:37 PM
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JONPAUL
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Posted on Feb 13 2015 02:37 PM
Yes, yes! Huzzah! Hear, hear! Thanks for posting this, Ivan! Sabbath, probably more than any other band, has had the deepest and longest lasting influence on my musical pursuits. They're also one of the only bands that I've never ever ever ever tired of--from age 14 till present day.
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timbliz
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Posted on Feb 13 2015 02:49 PM
Lucky me, backstage at the Brawlroom in Chicago back in 1992 (Dehumanizer tour)
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psychonaut
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Posted on Feb 13 2015 02:54 PM
IvanP wrote:
psychonaut wrote:
One of my earliest album purchases. I still have it, and a British pressing on Vertigo as well ( it has a gatefold cover and Evil Woman in place of Wicked World) I still listen to it often!
Tony, of course, using a Strat on Wicked World - sounds pretty good to my ears! Too bad he didn't stick with it.
Apparently the pick up on his strat broke, and that was in the days before you could get replacement parts, so he grabbed the SG which was his back-up guitar.
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crumble
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Guildford England
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Posted on Feb 13 2015 05:08 PM
Sorry Ivan but I lived through this period and I'm pretty sure the word Heavy Metal had not been coined in 1970!
In any case when it did arrive (1975?) it was a different beast.
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bigtikidude
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Posted on Feb 13 2015 05:18 PM
I remember my dad cranking sabbath when I was a littl kid.
I got my own best of lp at age 12.
Looking at the lp sleeve while listening to the music would give me goodebumps.
— Jeff(bigtikidude)
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IvanP
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Posted on Feb 13 2015 05:24 PM
crumble wrote:
Sorry Ivan but I lived through this period and I'm pretty sure the word Heavy Metal had not been coined in 1970!
Of course, crumble - but that doesn't mean it wasn't the first heavy metal album! Most music historians in retrospect look at the release of that album as the birth of metal - and obviously I agree.
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crumble
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Posted on Feb 13 2015 05:41 PM
IvanP wrote:
crumble wrote:
Sorry Ivan but I lived through this period and I'm pretty sure the word Heavy Metal had not been coined in 1970!
Of course, crumble - but that doesn't mean it wasn't the first heavy metal album! Most music historians in retrospect look at the release of that album as the birth of metal - and obviously I agree.
No more heavy metal than early Ventures surf music. In English record shops it would categorised as progressive rock, sub section Heavy rock along with Led Zeppelin and Jethro Tull.
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Surf_Skater
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Posted on Feb 13 2015 05:44 PM
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Teiscofan
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Ontario
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Posted on Feb 13 2015 05:52 PM
How about Steppenwolf, Iron Butterfly or Blue Cheer....According the interent they were also in the running for the first Heavy metal band along with Led Zeppelin.
Personally I love Iommis guitar playing from the first record onwards. Now I have to go online and look at SG's again......
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IvanP
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Posted on Feb 13 2015 05:56 PM
Malc, you can go ahead and argue that and I'm sure nobody will ever convince you otherwise, but the general consensus is against you. That's fine, you don't have to go along with them. But it makes complete sense to me. Of course the term 'heavy metal' was not yet applied to that music, but once it was (before '75, BTW) Sabbath was pretty universally recognized as being the most direct progenitors of heavy metal (with many less direct progenitors in the mix, too). Here are two good snippets from the Sabs' debut album Wikipedia page on this particular issue - take it or leave it. I'm gonna leave it here.
According to AllMusic's Steve Huey, Black Sabbath marks "the birth of heavy metal as we now know it".[7] In his opinion, the album "transcends its clear roots in blues-rock and psychedelia to become something more".[7] He ascribes its "sonic ugliness" as a reflection of "the bleak industrial nightmare" of the group's hometown, Birmingham, England.[7] Huey notes the first side's allusions to themes characteristic of heavy metal, including evil, paganism, and the occult, "as filtered through horror films and the writings of J.R.R. Tolkien, H.P. Lovecraft, and Dennis Wheatley."[7] He characterises side two as "given over to loose blues-rock jamming learned through" the English rock band Cream.[7]
In the opinion of the author and former Metal Maniacs magazine editor Jeff Wagner, Black Sabbath is the "generally accepted starting point" when heavy metal "became distinct from rock and roll".[8] In his opinion, the album transfigured blues rock into "something uglier, found deeper gravity via mournful singing and a sinister rhythmic pulse".[8] According to Rolling Stone magazine, "the album that arguably invented heavy metal was built on thunderous blues-rock".[9] Sputnikmusic's Mike Stagno notes that Black Sabbath's combined elements of rock, jazz and blues, with heavy distortion created one of the most influential albums in the history of heavy metal.[10] In retrospect, Black Sabbath has been lauded as perhaps the first true heavy metal album.[11]
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Badger
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Posted on Feb 13 2015 06:01 PM
I'm glad there are so many fans here, although I disagree about the birth of metal (which wasn't a term per se yet). I'm more of a mind toward January 1969 when, given what had been going on, Led Zeppelin kinda changed things up.
Never a modern metal fan but I hear its influences in quite a bit of surf music. Intermingling tree roots. Neat.
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