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i'm terrified of playing loud....

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ElBirkerio Joined: Dec 17, 2012 Posts: 519 Vienna	Posted on Jul 05 2013 06:48 AM mom_surfing wrote: wolfi, i can't get this to open on my mac Apple ... let me check — http://www.surfgrammeln-san.org https://www.facebook.com/BaluUndSurfgrammeln http://greencookierecords.bandcamp.com/album/coming-out-soon-los-chicharrones-del-surf-10 Top
mom_surfing Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 5304 the outer banks of north carolina	Posted on Aug 04 2013 08:18 PM update.....this will probably sound stupid but the other night no one showed up for band practice 'cept me and one of our guitar players (we have 3 guitar players) and i told him i hated the tone i was getting so we messed around with my stuff and got the tone right and it's brought my confidence level up considerably for the tunes we play. now......hopefully that will transfer over to my surf playing. — www.surfintheeye.com Top
Noel Joined: Mar 15, 2011 Posts: 8528 Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.	Posted on Aug 04 2013 08:40 PM Makes perfect sense to me. Congratulations! — This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got. Top
lerxst1031 Joined: Feb 06, 2012 Posts: 55 Anchorage, AK	Posted on Aug 05 2013 12:32 PM mom_surfing wrote: on another note, the band i'm in (we have 3 guitar players) played two hours yesterday at a 4th of july celebration. our main guitar player, who is a electrical lineman, got a trouble call at the end of our first set, leaving us with two guitar players. guitar player #2 was pretty wigged out being left with all the main duties. we turned it up and went for it. mistakes were there, sound a little rough in spots but the people enjoyed it and that's really all that mattered. he's beating himself up over it. i remained a cool cucumber even after having a senior moment not remembering a chord progression and furiously looking through my note cards as the band started to play. We had three gigs lined up this weekend (our busiest yet) and our drummer got stuck in the Aleutians waiting to get on a flight for several days and missed the whole thing! We played an hour set on Friday with the drummer from the band that played after us ("Ok, this one's a surf beat with a lot of toms..."), the bass player and I did a mellow 70-minute set with no percussion on Saturday that went over REALLY well - I used the Gretsch instead of the Jag, and we played a 3 hour corporate picnic on Sunday with the bass player's neighbor who plays in a blues band. We just went out confidently and made lots of mistakes and missed plenty of cues, but I honestly don't think folks noticed much. — The SpeNerds Alaska's Premier Instrumental Surf Trio! Top
RobC Joined: Oct 11, 2010 Posts: 152 Bainbridge Island, Washington	Posted on Aug 05 2013 01:56 PM Also remember that what you hear on stage is NOT what the audience hears. If you are mixed well the output from the PA is mixed well. Standing in front of your amp on stage give you the feeling that you are the only one playing. A good solution is a floor wedge with your own personal mix to bring the other band members into your spot on stage. Also experiment with amp placement, I always have mine facing sideways at me and not at the audience (We use a kick ass PA so this may not apply if there is no PA). Going from a bass player to lead surf guitarist- I had the exact same thing but the guitar really has to punch through. So. Crank it..... Top
RobC Joined: Oct 11, 2010 Posts: 152 Bainbridge Island, Washington	Posted on Aug 05 2013 01:57 PM As a follow-up, Who out there uses a PA and who doesn't? I would love to hear some mixing solutions from those that don't use a PA. Rob Top
caddady Joined: Feb 14, 2010 Posts: 802 N.E. Ohio	Posted on Aug 05 2013 02:08 PM "I would love to hear some mixing solutions from those that don't use a PA." http://surfguitar101.com/forums/topic/21856/?page=1 A recent thread on the minimalist/non PA. — http://www.reverbnation.com/thegreasemonkeyz Top
RobC Joined: Oct 11, 2010 Posts: 152 Bainbridge Island, Washington	Posted on Aug 05 2013 02:13 PM Just went through the earlier posts. Regarding the booze sweet spot. I agree, a couple of beers an hour before the show takes the edge off. I think everyone can agree that you only get too wasted to play once. I try to follow the Rule of Martini: One is just right Two is too many and three is not enough. Top
da-ron Joined: Jan 02, 2009 Posts: 1307 The original Plymouth, UK.	Posted on Aug 16 2013 08:27 AM Mom: It might be like riding big waves - build up to it...Or... Here's a trick you might try - Put your amp (or speaker) on the other side of the stage, facing away from you. Anwhere where you can't hear it so well, but everyone else can. Then it won't sound so loud and you might have a bit more confidence. Sometimes standing in front of your own amp means you can't hear anything but yourself, which may not be what you want to hear! Also it helps to remember that no -one is there listening to you (sorry to break the news so bluntly!) but they are there listening to the band, which you're part of. I found it took some experience and mindset to breeze off mistakes, no one is there to remember the fluffs. I've finished a song with the comment "Well, I'd like to apologise for playing that so badly", everyone laughed, and the mood was fun, rather than stressed. Hope this helps. Practice loud! — http://thewaterboarders.bandcamp.com/ Top
mom_surfing Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 5304 the outer banks of north carolina	Posted on Aug 16 2013 09:06 AM robc wrote " Standing in front of your amp on stage give you the feeling that you are the only one playing." good point — www.surfintheeye.com Top
wooza Joined: Apr 24, 2006 Posts: 1618 Ithaca, NY	Posted on Aug 16 2013 09:57 AM mom_surfing wrote: robc wrote " Standing in front of your amp on stage give you the feeling that you are the only one playing." good point But if it's loud enough it should make you feel invincible I'm not totally sure what Rob means here. Is it that you can't hear any of the other players on stage? One thing that really helps to improve both your playing and stage presence is to connect with the rest of the band up on stage with you. Even if you're having trouble hearing them, keep an eye on what they're doing - what note is the bassist on? What chord is the guitarist on? What beat is the drummer playing? Keep track of everyone, lock in with them, make eye contact with the rest of the group, and a couple things will happen: a) You'll all start to play off each other rather than nervously focusing on just getting your own part right, making the music much more fluid and natural, and b) you'll be distracted from your sense of stage-loneliness, which should hopefully loosen you up even more. It's way more fun both for the band and the audience if you're fully engaged with the group instead of just focusing on the hitting every right note on your own fretboard. Top
CrazyAces Joined: Jul 31, 2012 Posts: 4052 Nashville, TN.	Posted on Aug 16 2013 10:14 AM Carol, it seems you've been playing a lot lately, at the jams at the events and such. I would think you're overcoming your "phobia" a bit by now, yes? — http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyacesrock http://www.reverbnation.com/crazyacesmusic Top
mom_surfing Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 5304 the outer banks of north carolina	Posted on Aug 26 2013 08:36 PM a little..... we played out the other night and i do the lead all the way through 'i saw her standing there', even the drummer could hear me and my hands were not shaking. there's hope. now i've got to talk them into doing a surf instro or two. i want to play lead. — www.surfintheeye.com Top
zzero Joined: Jul 09, 2010 Posts: 1153 Lillian Alabama	Posted on Aug 28 2013 08:47 PM go for it!! the more you play live, the more confidence you'll build, the more leads you play, the easier it becomes, so on and so on!!! the hands will stop shaking and maybe one day you'll be looking to cut heads!! you can take it as far as you want!!!! — Enjoying the surf,sun and sand!! Top
mom_surfing Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 5304 the outer banks of north carolina	Posted on Aug 28 2013 08:54 PM and........it appears our band is breaking up, which truthfully is fine with me. my love is for surf instrumentals so back to them i go. — www.surfintheeye.com Top
Noel Joined: Mar 15, 2011 Posts: 8528 Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.	Posted on Aug 28 2013 09:02 PM mom_surfing wrote: and........it appears our band is breaking up, which truthfully is fine with me. my love is for surf instrumentals so back to them i go. Then I hope you can find or start your own surf band. — This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got. Last edited: Aug 28, 2013 21:03:16 Top
mom_surfing Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 5304 the outer banks of north carolina	Posted on Aug 28 2013 09:42 PM thanks noel. — www.surfintheeye.com Top
IvanP Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 10331 southern Michigan	Posted on Aug 28 2013 09:58 PM What Noel said! — Ivan Lords of Atlantis on Facebook The Madeira Official Website The Madeira on Facebook The Blair-Pongracic Band on Facebook The Space Cossacks on Facebook The Madeira Channel on YouTube Top
mom_surfing Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 5304 the outer banks of north carolina	Posted on Aug 28 2013 10:55 PM thanks ivan. — www.surfintheeye.com Top
morphball Joined: Dec 23, 2008 Posts: 3324 Pittsboro, NC	Posted on Aug 29 2013 07:41 AM Carol, it sounds like it was some solid performing experience at least, and it'll help with the projects that you actually DO want to work on! — Mike http://www.youtube.com/morphballio Top

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