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Joined: Jun 14, 2006 Posts: 203 |
"If you make a mistake, do it again. Now it’s not a mistake anymore, it’s a part." - Miles Davis |
Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19294 Des Moines, Iowa, USA |
Great advice Matt Q! —Site dude - S3 Agent #202 "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea |
Joined: Apr 03, 2010 Posts: 3201 Jacksonville, AL |
Just get up and do your thing. Remember that no one in the audience is rooting against you. And enjoy hearing your amp and guitar at the level where they sound best. Yes, the amp reacts differently at louder volumes, but in a very good way. And just relax. I find that one stiff drink, around thirty minutes before I go on, puts me in the perfect place. —THE KBK ... This is the last known signal. We offer Sanctuary. www.thekbk.com |
Joined: Mar 14, 2006 Posts: 2775 Atlanta, GA |
Hey Carol, most of us are apprehensive about stumbling while on stage. Kind of like paddling out to surf a big wave. (In my case lining up on a motocross startig gate on the inside.) Surge! drummer Link refers to our band brain fades as "Jazz" (I call 'em "senior moments") I prefer his take on it. All said though, I play much better if I am standing in my amp's sweet spot with the amp slightly behind in volume, forcing me to make up for it by hitting the strings a bit harder, zoning out and letting muscle memory carry me there. I play 100% by ear, having no real idea what I am supposed to be playing technically speaking. Also if my amp is too loud, I start to cower and get really self concious, setting the stage (haha) for an Eddie Katcher blew it big event. The more you play out the more comfortable you will be. After all the people watching came to have a good time and if it was easy, everybody would be up there. Get 'em Tiger Lady! ed —Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps? |
Joined: Apr 05, 2006 Posts: 1544 Bethlehem, GA |
eddiekatcher wrote: "...and if it was easy, everybody would be up there."
That statement says it all. —Jack Booth The Mariners (1964-68, 1996-2005) |
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 5304 the outer banks of north carolina |
killbabykill34 wrote:
that would put me in the silly zone — |
Joined: Apr 03, 2010 Posts: 3201 Jacksonville, AL |
It is all in timing, Mom. I have a line that I certainly can't cross. —THE KBK ... This is the last known signal. We offer Sanctuary. www.thekbk.com |
Joined: Sep 02, 2006 Posts: 3166 Denver, CO |
Ah, yes! I think the last time I did this I was 13 and playing an easy violin solo at a school assembly. My hands got sweaty and my fingers started to slide up the bow. Have you ever seen someone try to play a violin holding the bow in the middle? I flatter myself that nobody noticed this at the time. They were probably still trying to get past the sound. So, I think the consensus is to look the audience straight in the eyes, imagine they are all nude, and run screaming for the door. But, if you feel like you have stay for the whole set, just remember Hendrix's Law, which is, "The louder and fuzzier it is, the harder it is to tell if it's wrong." Or anyway, the more it sounds like it's the other, more tentative players who are screwing up. A few observations of my own: I've also noticed that if a player remembers their mistakes and repeats them about the same way in the next verse everyone thinks they're a genius. Never assume a mistake sounds worse than the correct version, especially with the band's originals or any Top 40 covers. There are bound to be people in the audience wishing they'd thought of doing it that way themselves. |
Joined: Sep 02, 2006 Posts: 3166 Denver, CO |
For the musical perfectionist with nerves of steel, practice is about perfecting a performance and committing it to muscle memory. For the rest, it's about learning to screw up and keep going with nonchalant flair. And, remember, if you're doing your job, the audience is drunk. |
Joined: Jul 31, 2012 Posts: 4052 Nashville, TN. |
Carol, http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic |
Joined: Feb 14, 2010 Posts: 802 N.E. Ohio |
The Miles Davis quote is sage advice, I would add do not quit, no matter how lost, out of tune or in the wrong key you are, keep playing like you mean it. 99% of the audience will not know anyhoo. Besides they are still trying to remember the steps to The Shag out there on the beach. — |
Joined: Jun 14, 2006 Posts: 203 |
Another useful thing is to practice starting and stopping at various points in the song. It's embarrassing to lose your place and have to wait until the place you know how to start from comes around again. Not that I've ever done this... |
Joined: Feb 23, 2007 Posts: 1650 Santa Rosa, CA |
Hey Mom, Last edited: Jun 28, 2013 21:31:15 |
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 1070 Ventura County, Calif. |
Mistakes? Ha! Your not a guitar player if you don't make any stinking mistakes! I would rather hear the lead guitar player be nice and loud while making a few mistakes, rather than be turned down so low, not heard, and completely lost in the mix. Not to mention, when you start playing bigger venues, it usually comes with a soundman. If the soundman is good, he's gonna bring that lead guitar up to be heard nice and clear, thus, you won't have much say in the matter at this point anyway. Sooner or later, you have to face, "The Sour Note Demons, Monsters, etc. any guitar player faces. Just try to imagine that everyone in the audience is completely naked and you'll do just fine Carol! ;D —Be careful following the masses. Sometimes the "M" is silent........................... Last edited: Jun 29, 2013 01:04:06 |
Joined: Apr 24, 2012 Posts: 23 Northern Germany |
Good advice here already so I can only repeat some. Lots of regular practice helps definitely and playing through any mistakes without showing it (like making a funny/sad face ) is a must when on stage. Head straight to the bar after the set and purge unpleasant memories with booze after a group hug, hehe. |
Joined: Dec 23, 2008 Posts: 3324 Pittsboro, NC |
I always seem to play too loud (with maybe one exception at Jawsfest) and always manage to make mistakes, no matter how prepared I am... and that's every stinkin' time too, not just occasionally. But the way I see it, most of us are not career musicians practicing 8 hours a day, playing stadiums and getting paid millions, so it's really not worth beating yourself up over when it happens. And like others say, 99% of the audience won't even notice, so just make a weird face at your bandmates and laugh about it later. — |
Joined: Dec 17, 2012 Posts: 519 Vienna |
Hi! What about soundcloud repository of our most pathetic on-stage bloopers? I can contribute a mixolydian variation of the highly complex tune "penetration"... http://www.surfgrammeln-san.org |
Joined: Oct 10, 2009 Posts: 221 South Bay, CA |
When you goof, smile and carry on. It happens. Nothing worse than when a musician has a clam and makes the "wince face." We all make mistakes, and just keep going and have fun. —'65 Fender Tremolux, '74 Princeton; 77 Vibrolux Reverb; '81 Princeton Reverb |
Joined: Jul 31, 2012 Posts: 4052 Nashville, TN. |
Most of the time when we're laughing on stage it's because one of us made a mistake or I'm laughing at myself. http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic |
Joined: Nov 22, 2012 Posts: 71 Kitchener, ON |
Whatever you're playing, just play it like you mean it. Enjoy every moment and it will show. All the best! —The Aquamaniacs on ReverbNation |