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I kind of dig Jolana, this looks like a Tornado model. sort of a Martin/335 mixed with Italian electronics.

They made some interesting models in the Soviet days.

http://www.reverbnation.com/thegreasemonkeyz

caddady wrote:

Are these Jolana guitars in the last few videos??

Yes, I read a little bit about these guys, and this model is really popular there. They've got a unique technique. They push the strings with the palm of the right hand (behind the bridge), and made a special arabic sounds (notes between frats).

The worst guitar.. I don't know, I've got some possessed friend who use them, there are some really bad model, but - they said - there are some usable, with some modifications (pickups, mostly)

I'm sure pickups are bad, but pickups are bad in a MIM strat too, so.. I've never tried a Tornado, but I've got an alexis bass to make vintage sound, It needs new electonics, but the neck is comfortable, acoustic sound is great.

my favorite brand from communist era is the Musima. They've got some really good model, the wood is not the best, but comfortable, playable guitars, and with good pickups... Smile

original compositions (low-level demo stuff /out of tune, etc) myStuff not my best, but i don't like to be in a musician community without anything to show

but I post the last one because of the picking technique :))

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Musmia Eterna is on my wish list. Dear Santa.
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caddady wrote:

Musmia Eterna is on my wish list. Dear Santa.

this was 70$

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Last edited: Dec 19, 2012 16:11:07

Oh to have a pocket full of money, a few weeks in Eastern Europe and a minivan to fill with guitars.

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caddady wrote:

Oh to have a pocket full of money, a few weeks in Eastern Europe and a minivan to fill with guitars.

Smile That was my Höfner - 270$ I 'barterd' it (one of the biggest mistake of my life) for a Framus Strato deLuxe I'm an addict I think..

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I've found some Atlantis (the hungarian band) song: Some covers, and originals - DOn Quijote (Boronkai Sándor(or Gábor) is hm.. really great stuff

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Here’s a nice Shadows cover from Romania, Rosu si Negru playing Theme for Young Lovers.

The Exotic Guitar of Kahuna Kawentzmann

You can get the boy out of the Keynes era, but you can’t get the Keynes era out of the boy.

Some Illés again

Protonok tánca: Dance of protons
Séta az arany húrokon: Walk on the golden strings

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Hey, Togergo, what do you know about the history of a Turkish folk song called something like Arpa Bugday Daneler?

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Hi, sorry, I don't know anything about it. I,m hungarian. It's a totally different culture. Smile

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Thanks!

I was looking for may a more general "(South) Eastern European" trail. Turkey seems to pattern to a fair extent with the area in general, though, like Hungary, it's sort of peripheral to the area. Maybe today it's not reasonable to look at things that extend across the current national frontiers, and, of course, this particular case may not, though I suspect it does. (Unless it's modern, which seems not to be the case.)

FWIW, ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khfvgj4Mo0M

Kaynak:Aysel Sezer
Derleme:Nida Tüfekçi
Yöre:Yozgat-Akdağmadeni

I think this says "Source: Aysel Sezer, Assenbly (= Collector (?)/Editor (?)/Arranger (?)) Nida Tüfekçi, Region: (Amounts to Galatia)"

Nida Tüfekçi is presumably (per Wikipedia) Mehmet Nidâ Tüfekçi (born March 1, 1929, Akdağmadeni – September 18, 1993, Istanbul) was a Turkish folk singer.

Pop treatment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tK6t79-vKE&feature=player_detailpage#t=155

It's interesting to compare this to American Greek/Armenian piece called Nica:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoUff3M5pT0

What I notice is that they remind me of the Spanish piece El Zorongo and its surf derivative Exotic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYhYbwFyj64 (Exotic, possibly the original version, by Jim Waller & the Deltas.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O49f9vfHZA Rendition of Juan Martin's Zorongo for the guitar.

Maybe I'm just noticing a shared "scale" in the form of the Maqam Hijaz?

http://www.oudforguitarists.com/maqam-hijaz-medley/

Anyway, I was looking for wider traces to help me understand what going on.

Hi, if you are really interested in traditional european folklore, you have to find Bartók Béla's books, articles, etc. He was a great classial composer, and (!) he was in love with the old traditional folklore. And he collected music in Hungary, Rumania, an Turkey!

I don't know all of his works, but i believe, he could be the best for you, if you want to know more.

I was a pro player of our folk music, so if you want to know something about it, send me a pm, but turkish stuff...

There are bigger blocks, but every country has unique culture, and our nation has not old relaives here Smile

There was 150 yrs, when the turkish army was here, in the 16. century, they left here some words, melodies, food, and children of course, but we don't know anything about theme, and we are not too similar.

I know some facts about the music of balkan, or gypsies, but turkish songs? Sorry... Smile

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Thanks!

http://www.amazon.com/B%C3%A9la-Bart%C3%B3k-Hungarian-Folk-Song/dp/0964196158/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1391814096&sr=1-6&keywords=bela+bartok+folk+music

http://www.amazon.com/B%C3%A9la-Bart%C3%B3k-Turkish-Music-Minor/dp/096419614X/ref=sr_1_7?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1391814096&sr=1-7&keywords=bela+bartok+folk+music

oh... Very Happy

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I popped over to Szczecin in Poland for a few days holiday and was informed that an old 60s bar had re-opened, The Sorrento.
I went along and found a very pleasant place in the basement and yard of an old Prussian house (c.1880s). It had originally been a hangout for young beatniks in the mid-60s through to the 70s and the new owner had tried to keep the spirit of the place with loads of old photos and items from the period. Sadly, no guitars.
Live music is played there, but on a rather broader theme than the original period.

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Later in the week, I went for a meal in Szczecin’s Pomeranian castle (c.1500s) and whilst nursing a beer at our allotted table noticed a book on the shelf next to me about local bands from the 60s who played in the old club. I had a flick through the photos and came across one of a band…with NO MICROPHONES!!

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My interest piqued, I noted the name of the band…Kon-Tiki… So flicking through, I came to the chapter about them and lo and behold, they were influenced by The Shadows, The Ventures and The Spotnicks

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and played “jace styl Hanka Marvina z The Shadows”.

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I’ve not unearthed any recordings, and it’s highly unlikely. But it’s nice to find a bit of musical history in my “second home” that’s relevant to my tastes.

As an aside; judging from the other photos in the book, there seems to have been quite a few Burns Bisons and Burns “Shadows” basses used by the mid to late 60s Polish bands.

Very cool. Thanks for sharing this!

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Searching the forums (where there is SO much good stuff) for various things including Eastern European guitar instrumentals, I came across this interesting old thread, so I am resurrecting it.

On a visit to Poland in 2017, Clarry found a suitable-looking band called Kon Tiki from Szczeczin, Poland by the Baltic sea:

Clarry wrote:

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My interest piqued, I noted the name of the band…Kon-Tiki… So flicking through, I came to the chapter about them and lo and behold, they were influenced by The Shadows, The Ventures and The Spotnicks

I’ve not unearthed any recordings, and it’s highly unlikely. But it’s nice to find a bit of musical history in my “second home” that’s relevant to my tastes.

I used to live in Poland and can still speak Polish quite well, so I did a bit of digging. Well, it turns out that Kon-Tiki did get recorded, by the local radio station. The only track I found on Youtube is more of an R&B boogie, but the tone is nice. I wonder where the rest of their radio recordings are? Apparently they covered The Cruel Sea (Okrutne Morze), which must be fun.

I also found out that there was another band called Kon Tiki at around the same time, but in Budapest, Hungary. There are still lots of Shadows tribute bands in Hungary to this day (including one called Kon Tiki, apparently unrelated). I haven't found any recordings by the Hungarian 1960s Kon Tiki unfortunately, but their leader Albert Haász went on to do various other projects, including a band called The Wanderers, who made quite a few recordings in the studio and for "The Radio". It all seems to be on his website (or rather, large collection of related websites). The first one "Hajtóvadászat" ("the chase") is very Shadows-y. There is also a cover of the Shadows' Chattanooga Choo Choo. Most of the rest are vocal numbers, with some quite amusing novelty-classical instrumentals too - Preludium is funny.

http://www.wanderers-zenekar.hu/zenek.html

Of the other Hungarians bands mentioned earlier, Atlantisz Együttes had some nice instrumentals released on a couple of 7" EPs (which I am hunting for), and the handful of Illés instrumentals are collected on a singles collection, which I have on vinyl. I am not a fan of their vocal numbers though, so it gets little play in my house. Some of Farragó "Judy" István's stuff is great, especially his cover of Ezüst eső.

Did somebody mention Sincron, from Romania? The Kilaueas cover one of their instrumentals, Pe Langa Plopii Fara Sot. A great galloping tune.

Last edited: Nov 20, 2023 06:30:33

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