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Brian, I totally agree but aren't all Yahoo Groups features inferior
compared to a modern type of forum?
Here's how a search feature should look like:
/ Klas
--- In , "Brian Neal" <brian@s...> wrote:
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> Unfortunately, the search feature for Yahoo Groups really blows.
>
> BN
>
I knew you were going to say that.
>
>
> Brian, I totally agree but aren't all Yahoo Groups features inferior
> compared to a modern type of forum?
>
> Here's how a search feature should look like:
>
>
>
> / Klas
>
>
> --- In , "Brian Neal" <brian@s...> wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately, the search feature for Yahoo Groups really blows.
> >
> > BN
> >
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> Visit for archived messages,
> bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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I see that you're still pushin' that bombora.net, Klas!
That bombora.net search feature has too many options. I don't want to have to
make sure I've got all the right buttons pushed. I've had good success with the
simple Yahoo version. And no, my VCR is not still flashing 12:00.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: Klas Fjellgren
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 12:43 PM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Search feature really blows
Brian, I totally agree but aren't all Yahoo Groups features inferior
compared to a modern type of forum?
Here's how a search feature should look like:
/ Klas
--- In , "Brian Neal" <brian@s...> wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, the search feature for Yahoo Groups really blows.
>
> BN
>
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I understand that this might be a sensitive topic but I have trouble
understanding why people are persisting to hang on to these inferior
types of message boards when there are much more functional forums
around these days. I'm not only thinking about the crappy search
function but lots of other annoying stuff like severe difficulties to
follow quotes from earlier posts, incorrectly displayed links,
unability to edit posts, no sub forums, adverts screwing up posts,
etc. etc.
It just doesn't make sense.
--- In , brian@s... wrote:
> I knew you were going to say that.
> >
> >
> > Brian, I totally agree but aren't all Yahoo Groups features
inferior
> > compared to a modern type of forum?
> >
> > Here's how a search feature should look like:
> >
> >
> >
> > / Klas
> >
> >
> > --- In , "Brian Neal" <brian@s...>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, the search feature for Yahoo Groups really blows.
> > >
> > > BN
> > >
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> >
> > .
> > Visit for archived
messages,
> > bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
Marty, you don't have to push all the buttons if you don't want to.
It's enough to type in a keyword and then hit the "Search" button.
Also to clarify, I have no connections whatsoever to the Bombora Surf
Music Forums. I just found it a day when I was more than usual fed up
with the messed up Yahoo boards.
I wonder if everyone understands that these type of things actually
can be of importance for surf music to grow and attract new fans and
win back old ones.
/ Klas
--- In , "Marty Tippens"
<mctippens@e...> wrote:
> I see that you're still pushin' that bombora.net, Klas!
>
> That bombora.net search feature has too many options. I don't want
to have to make sure I've got all the right buttons pushed. I've had
good success with the simple Yahoo version. And no, my VCR is not
still flashing 12:00.
>
> -Marty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Klas Fjellgren
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 12:43 PM
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Search feature really blows
>
>
>
> Brian, I totally agree but aren't all Yahoo Groups features
inferior
> compared to a modern type of forum?
>
> Here's how a search feature should look like:
>
>
>
> / Klas
>
>
> --- In , "Brian Neal" <brian@s...>
wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately, the search feature for Yahoo Groups really blows.
> >
> > BN
> >
>
>
>
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>
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> .
> Visit for archived
messages, bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
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I understand that one doesn't have to push any of the buttons, Klas, but the
standard no button search works fine and, while I'm waiting for the results, I
don't have to wonder if I should have pushed a given button.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: Klas Fjellgren
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 4:50 PM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Search feature really blows
Marty, you don't have to push all the buttons if you don't want to.
It's enough to type in a keyword and then hit the "Search" button.
Also to clarify, I have no connections whatsoever to the Bombora Surf
Music Forums. I just found it a day when I was more than usual fed up
with the messed up Yahoo boards.
I wonder if everyone understands that these type of things actually
can be of importance for surf music to grow and attract new fans and
win back old ones.
/ Klas
--- In , "Marty Tippens"
<mctippens@e...> wrote:
> I see that you're still pushin' that bombora.net, Klas!
>
> That bombora.net search feature has too many options. I don't want
to have to make sure I've got all the right buttons pushed. I've had
good success with the simple Yahoo version. And no, my VCR is not
still flashing 12:00.
>
> -Marty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Klas Fjellgren
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 12:43 PM
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Search feature really blows
>
>
>
> Brian, I totally agree but aren't all Yahoo Groups features
inferior
> compared to a modern type of forum?
>
> Here's how a search feature should look like:
>
>
>
> / Klas
>
>
> --- In , "Brian Neal" <brian@s...>
wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately, the search feature for Yahoo Groups really blows.
> >
> > BN
> >
>
>
>
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>
>
> .
> Visit for archived
messages, bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
>
>
>
>
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>
> a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:
>
>
> b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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I think you're exaggerating the shortcomings of the current system, Klas. We now
have record numbers of posts on this list. It seems to be working for most. If
someone wants to be understood in the context of a thread, they reprint the
pertinent part of the previous post to which they are responding. Sure, some in
digest mode aren't in that practice but I most often know what they are
referring to. I haven't seen adverts ruining any posts. I don't want to know
what a sub-forum is, one big forum is fine, I have a delete button. I've had no
trouble with clicking on supplied links, and there's been some great ones
lately. I see too many cutesy symbols and "buttons to push" on the bombora.net
thing to find it atttractive.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: Klas Fjellgren
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 4:21 PM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Search feature really blows
I understand that this might be a sensitive topic but I have trouble
understanding why people are persisting to hang on to these inferior
types of message boards when there are much more functional forums
around these days. I'm not only thinking about the crappy search
function but lots of other annoying stuff like severe difficulties to
follow quotes from earlier posts, incorrectly displayed links,
unability to edit posts, no sub forums, adverts screwing up posts,
etc. etc.
It just doesn't make sense.
--- In , brian@s... wrote:
> I knew you were going to say that.
> >
> >
> > Brian, I totally agree but aren't all Yahoo Groups features
inferior
> > compared to a modern type of forum?
> >
> > Here's how a search feature should look like:
> >
> >
> >
> > / Klas
> >
> >
> > --- In , "Brian Neal" <brian@s...>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, the search feature for Yahoo Groups really blows.
> > >
> > > BN
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > .
> > Visit for archived
messages,
> > bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
.
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Brian, have you thought about putting up a modern type of forum on
the SurfGuitar101.com website? The software isn't free and has to be
purchased but I would gladly pay my share for a more functional forum.
/ Klas
--- In , "Klas Fjellgren"
<surfites@b...> wrote:
>
> I understand that this might be a sensitive topic but I have
trouble
> understanding why people are persisting to hang on to these
inferior
> types of message boards when there are much more functional forums
> around these days. I'm not only thinking about the crappy search
> function but lots of other annoying stuff like severe difficulties
to
> follow quotes from earlier posts, incorrectly displayed links,
> unability to edit posts, no sub forums, adverts screwing up posts,
> etc. etc.
>
> It just doesn't make sense.
>
> --- In , brian@s... wrote:
> > I knew you were going to say that.
> > >
> > >
> > > Brian, I totally agree but aren't all Yahoo Groups features
> inferior
> > > compared to a modern type of forum?
> > >
> > > Here's how a search feature should look like:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > / Klas
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In , "Brian Neal" <brian@s...>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately, the search feature for Yahoo Groups really
blows.
> > > >
> > > > BN
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > .
> > > Visit for archived
> messages,
> > > bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
I must second a modern type of forum. I don't like not being able to
edit posts. It makes me look stupid when I miss endings of words.
However, if the board went to a modern forum the photos and files
would go away. I don't know if that is a good trade off.
--- In , "Klas Fjellgren" <surfites@b...>
wrote:
>
> Brian, have you thought about putting up a modern type of forum on
> the SurfGuitar101.com website? The software isn't free and has to be
> purchased but I would gladly pay my share for a more functional forum.
>
> / Klas
>
> --- In , "Klas Fjellgren"
> <surfites@b...> wrote:
> >
> > I understand that this might be a sensitive topic but I have
> trouble
> > understanding why people are persisting to hang on to these
> inferior
> > types of message boards when there are much more functional forums
> > around these days. I'm not only thinking about the crappy search
> > function but lots of other annoying stuff like severe difficulties
> to
> > follow quotes from earlier posts, incorrectly displayed links,
> > unability to edit posts, no sub forums, adverts screwing up posts,
> > etc. etc.
> >
> > It just doesn't make sense.
> >
> > --- In , brian@s... wrote:
>
> > > I knew you were going to say that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Brian, I totally agree but aren't all Yahoo Groups features
> > inferior
> > > > compared to a modern type of forum?
> > > >
> > > > Here's how a search feature should look like:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > / Klas
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In , "Brian Neal" <brian@s...>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Unfortunately, the search feature for Yahoo Groups really
> blows.
> > > > >
> > > > > BN
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > .
> > > > Visit for archived
> > messages,
> > > > bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
Klas Fjellgren wrote:
>Brian, have you thought about putting up a modern type of forum on
>the SurfGuitar101.com website? The software isn't free and has to be
>purchased but I would gladly pay my share for a more functional forum.
>
>/ Klas
>
>
>
Klas, I can really tell this is an important issue with you, you bring
this up every few months.... :)
To be honest I'm perfectly happy with the email format that Yahoo Groups
provides. Messages come to me with Yahoo Groups (passive receive), and
I don't have to click through lots of pages filled with animated smiley
faces on those web forums (requires active behavior on my part). I'm
just lazy I guess.
However, if enough people wanted such a forum I may entertain the idea.
Does anyone besides Klas and Marty have an opinion? Email me off list or
create one of those Yahoo polls.
Thanks,
BN
I have no trouble editing posts and spell-checking with the current system but
I'm using Outlook Express.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: jacobdobner
To:
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 10:02 AM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Search feature really blows
I must second a modern type of forum. I don't like not being able to
edit posts. It makes me look stupid when I miss endings of words.
However, if the board went to a modern forum the photos and files
would go away. I don't know if that is a good trade off.
--- In , "Klas Fjellgren" <surfites@b...>
wrote:
>
> Brian, have you thought about putting up a modern type of forum on
> the SurfGuitar101.com website? The software isn't free and has to be
> purchased but I would gladly pay my share for a more functional forum.
>
> / Klas
>
> --- In , "Klas Fjellgren"
> <surfites@b...> wrote:
> >
> > I understand that this might be a sensitive topic but I have
> trouble
> > understanding why people are persisting to hang on to these
> inferior
> > types of message boards when there are much more functional forums
> > around these days. I'm not only thinking about the crappy search
> > function but lots of other annoying stuff like severe difficulties
> to
> > follow quotes from earlier posts, incorrectly displayed links,
> > unability to edit posts, no sub forums, adverts screwing up posts,
> > etc. etc.
> >
> > It just doesn't make sense.
> >
> > --- In , brian@s... wrote:
>
> > > I knew you were going to say that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Brian, I totally agree but aren't all Yahoo Groups features
> > inferior
> > > > compared to a modern type of forum?
> > > >
> > > > Here's how a search feature should look like:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > / Klas
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In , "Brian Neal" <brian@s...>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Unfortunately, the search feature for Yahoo Groups really
> blows.
> > > > >
> > > > > BN
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > .
> > > > Visit for archived
> > messages,
> > > > bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
.
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Okay now you got me curious. I'm looking into whether my web host
provider supports phpBB, a free web based forum software package. You
can see an example of it in action at the Hypnotic IV web site:
Marty, I think Jacob meant editing his posts after he posted them. Can't
do that with Yahoo Groups currently.
Jacob is also right, Yahoo Groups gives us a file section, photo
section, the database stuff (that no one uses), polls, and even a
real-time chat (has anyone used this?). Of course we could keep the
Yahoo Group active for these features, but just shut off the message
part (make it for announcements only).
I'll start a Yahoo poll on the issue. If my web host supports phpBB the
computer geek in me will force me to setup a test forum.
BN
The Bambi Molesters use the same type of board.
--- In , Brian Neal <brian@s...> wrote:
> Okay now you got me curious. I'm looking into whether my web host
> provider supports phpBB, a free web based forum software package. You
> can see an example of it in action at the Hypnotic IV web site:
>
>
>
> Marty, I think Jacob meant editing his posts after he posted them.
Can't
> do that with Yahoo Groups currently.
>
> Jacob is also right, Yahoo Groups gives us a file section, photo
> section, the database stuff (that no one uses), polls, and even a
> real-time chat (has anyone used this?). Of course we could keep the
> Yahoo Group active for these features, but just shut off the message
> part (make it for announcements only).
>
> I'll start a Yahoo poll on the issue. If my web host supports phpBB the
> computer geek in me will force me to setup a test forum.
>
> BN
More examples:
--- In , "jacobdobner"
<jacobdobner@y...> wrote:
>
> The Bambi Molesters use the same type of board.
>
>
> --- In , Brian Neal <brian@s...> wrote:
> > Okay now you got me curious. I'm looking into whether my web host
> > provider supports phpBB, a free web based forum software package.
You
> > can see an example of it in action at the Hypnotic IV web site:
> >
> >
> >
> > Marty, I think Jacob meant editing his posts after he posted them.
> Can't
> > do that with Yahoo Groups currently.
> >
> > Jacob is also right, Yahoo Groups gives us a file section, photo
> > section, the database stuff (that no one uses), polls, and even a
> > real-time chat (has anyone used this?). Of course we could keep
the
> > Yahoo Group active for these features, but just shut off the
message
> > part (make it for announcements only).
> >
> > I'll start a Yahoo poll on the issue. If my web host supports
phpBB the
> > computer geek in me will force me to setup a test forum.
> >
> > BN
Brian, the poll feature works great on web forums. Check out this
example:
--- In , "Brian Neal" <brian@s...> wrote:
Remember, the web based forum may not give us a file/photo/poll area.
But we might be able to keep the Yahoo Group just for those features.
Why does Surfguitar101 need to change format? There is a perfectly good "modern"
style
BB at Bombora.net. If people want to use it they would, the fact that it remains
unpopular
is all the polling you need.
It's not broken, don't fix it.
ferenc
--- In , Brian Neal <brian@s...> wrote:
> Okay now you got me curious. I'm looking into whether my web host
> provider supports phpBB, a free web based forum software package. You
> can see an example of it in action at the Hypnotic IV web site:
>
>
>
> Marty, I think Jacob meant editing his posts after he posted them. Can't
> do that with Yahoo Groups currently.
>
> Jacob is also right, Yahoo Groups gives us a file section, photo
> section, the database stuff (that no one uses), polls, and even a
> real-time chat (has anyone used this?). Of course we could keep the
> Yahoo Group active for these features, but just shut off the message
> part (make it for announcements only).
>
> I'll start a Yahoo poll on the issue. If my web host supports phpBB the
> computer geek in me will force me to setup a test forum.
>
> BN
Ny only problem with the whole format has been with the search
itself. I tried to search for "Clapton" to see if any of you guys
had gone to that Clapton guitar festival in Texas last summer only
to find out I was only searching the last couple of hundred entries.
THAT was annoying. But I can search on Google, if I really need to.
I don't know if that's grounds for changing the whole site.
Particularly, if there's a trade off with files, etc.
Also, what about people who only come so often, what are you gonna
do? Post a sign saying moved to a new address?
It isn't BROKE ENOUGH to fix.
Dave
Oh ok, Brian,
But I would hope that one wouldn't edit a post after it was posted, that sounds
a little slippery. We all make occasional posts that we want to fix and if we're
particularly embarrassed, we follow with a correction post.
-Marty
>
>
>
> Marty, I think Jacob meant editing his posts after he posted them.
Can't
> do that with Yahoo Groups currently.
>
> Jacob is also right, Yahoo Groups gives us a file section, photo
> section, the database stuff (that no one uses), polls, and even a
> real-time chat (has anyone used this?). Of course we could keep the
> Yahoo Group active for these features, but just shut off the message
> part (make it for announcements only).
>
> I'll start a Yahoo poll on the issue. If my web host supports phpBB the
> computer geek in me will force me to setup a test forum.
>
> BN
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Agree with Ferenc. I actually like cruising thru my inbox reading these
things as opposed to using the browser, waiting on a site, going back and
forth, etc. The way the group is now, to me, feels more informal. I think
lists lend themselves to specialization, and forums to a broader segment,
i.e., fenderforum. Keep the list!
Brad
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From: Pollo Del Mar [mailto:]
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 3:04 PM
To:
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Search feature really blows
Why does Surfguitar101 need to change format? There is a perfectly good
"modern" style
BB at Bombora.net. If people want to use it they would, the fact that it
remains unpopular
is all the polling you need.
It's not broken, don't fix it.
ferenc
--- In , Brian Neal <brian@s...> wrote:
> Okay now you got me curious. I'm looking into whether my web host
> provider supports phpBB, a free web based forum software package. You
> can see an example of it in action at the Hypnotic IV web site:
>
>
>
> Marty, I think Jacob meant editing his posts after he posted them. Can't
> do that with Yahoo Groups currently.
>
> Jacob is also right, Yahoo Groups gives us a file section, photo
> section, the database stuff (that no one uses), polls, and even a
> real-time chat (has anyone used this?). Of course we could keep the
> Yahoo Group active for these features, but just shut off the message
> part (make it for announcements only).
>
> I'll start a Yahoo poll on the issue. If my web host supports phpBB the
> computer geek in me will force me to setup a test forum.
>
> BN
.
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I just checked this using your Clapton example, Dave. It actually does search
the entire data base for occurances of "Clapton". It looks like the first time
Clapton appeared on this list was a mention from Ivan in April of 2002. It
doesn't display all the results at once. I hit the "next" button a few times.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: stratrhythm
To:
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 1:09 PM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Search feature really blows
Ny only problem with the whole format has been with the search
itself. I tried to search for "Clapton" to see if any of you guys
had gone to that Clapton guitar festival in Texas last summer only
to find out I was only searching the last couple of hundred entries.
THAT was annoying. But I can search on Google, if I really need to.
I don't know if that's grounds for changing the whole site.
Particularly, if there's a trade off with files, etc.
Also, what about people who only come so often, what are you gonna
do? Post a sign saying moved to a new address?
It isn't BROKE ENOUGH to fix.
Dave
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