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Much to my surprise I haven't played the guitar too much in the last
month. Currently my practicing consists of me noodling around to bits
and pieces of various songs. I think I am going to switch gears and
force myself to play a short set of songs from start to finish every
night or so for say 2 weeks and see what that does. I think it will
be important for me to play the entire song...either lead or rhythm
and to play along with the recording. Can anyone suggest 5 or 6
simple surf songs to play to get me out of a rut?
Any other practicing strategies would be welcome.
Thanks,
BN
PS Hey we are creeping up on 100 members!
I haven't played as much this month either.
What I was doing was playing a set.
Keeping the songs I know active.
Rehearsing for the big day, when
I am on stage entertaining the masses. :)
And I would jam around making,
surf guitar and other related noises too.
-----Original Message-----
From: xarxas [mailto:]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 5:01 PM
To:
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Getting out of a rut
Much to my surprise I haven't played the guitar too much in the last
month. Currently my practicing consists of me noodling around to bits
and pieces of various songs. I think I am going to switch gears and
force myself to play a short set of songs from start to finish every
night or so for say 2 weeks and see what that does. I think it will
be important for me to play the entire song...either lead or rhythm
and to play along with the recording. Can anyone suggest 5 or 6
simple surf songs to play to get me out of a rut?
Any other practicing strategies would be welcome.
Thanks,
BN
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What I did was burn a CD of some of my favorites...All old
stuff...Pipeline..Baja..Walk Don't Run 64...Surf Rider..etc. I have found
that if I really like the song, I am more apt to play it. Give it a
try...works for me!
Reverbmike
Mike Finney
13804 Castlemaine Ave.
Bakersfield, CA 93312
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Mr. Moto will keep ya interested even after playin' it nightly for two weeks.
Walk Don't Run is good C scale practice without bein' a strict C scale. Try
to pick up some more melodically invovled numbers like Slaughter on 10th
Avenue and Hawaii Five-0 to help keep your interest. Pipeline and Wipe Out
are simple classics, but not very much fun if they are not cranked through a
Fender reverb and amp.
Marty
<<Much to my surprise I haven't played the guitar too much in the last
month. Currently my practicing consists of me noodling around to bits
and pieces of various songs. I think I am going to switch gears and
force myself to play a short set of songs from start to finish every
night or so for say 2 weeks and see what that does. I think it will
be important for me to play the entire song...either lead or rhythm
and to play along with the recording. Can anyone suggest 5 or 6
simple surf songs to play to get me out of a rut?
Any other practicing strategies would be welcome.
Thanks,
BN
PS Hey we are creeping up on 100 members!
>
>
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My favorite surf song is the theme to black saddle.
Its on "Rare Surf Vol. 2." I thinks its the nocturns
or the southbay surfers. Great song. I can't get
enough of this tune.
When I'm in a rut, I treat myself to a new cd (buy the
one I mentioned above, its mostly good and has 3
different bands on it. You're bound to like one of
'em . . . maybe even a lot!). Or buy some new gear.
Anything from little things like a pedal all the way
to a different amp makes a big difference in the
amount of enjoyment I get out of playing. To avoid
spending all our cash, my friends and I trade gear for
a bit. I got a buddy's Da Vinci (class A 1 X 12, like
a princeton only the tremolo is much cooler and he's
got my '59 bassman.
Damon
--- xarxas <> wrote:
> Much to my surprise I haven't played the guitar too
> much in the last
> month. Currently my practicing consists of me
> noodling around to bits
> and pieces of various songs. I think I am going to
> switch gears and
> force myself to play a short set of songs from start
> to finish every
> night or so for say 2 weeks and see what that does.
> I think it will
> be important for me to play the entire song...either
> lead or rhythm
> and to play along with the recording. Can anyone
> suggest 5 or 6
> simple surf songs to play to get me out of a rut?
>
> Any other practicing strategies would be welcome.
>
> Thanks,
>
> BN
>
> PS Hey we are creeping up on 100 members!
>
>
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Another great cd to sit and play along with is Legends of Guitar: Surf cd
(Rhino.) This comp ALWAYS gets me stoked to pick up my jaguar and crank up
the reverb. It features Dick Dale, Lively Ones, The Astronauts,
etc,etc....GREAT stuff!
Mike
At 08:37 AM 1/11/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>My favorite surf song is the theme to black saddle.
>Its on "Rare Surf Vol. 2." I thinks its the nocturns
>or the southbay surfers. Great song. I can't get
>enough of this tune.
>
>When I'm in a rut, I treat myself to a new cd (buy the
>one I mentioned above, its mostly good and has 3
>different bands on it. You're bound to like one of
>'em . . . maybe even a lot!). Or buy some new gear.
>Anything from little things like a pedal all the way
>to a different amp makes a big difference in the
>amount of enjoyment I get out of playing. To avoid
>spending all our cash, my friends and I trade gear for
>a bit. I got a buddy's Da Vinci (class A 1 X 12, like
>a princeton only the tremolo is much cooler and he's
>got my '59 bassman.
>
>Damon
>--- xarxas <> wrote:
> > Much to my surprise I haven't played the guitar too
> > much in the last
> > month. Currently my practicing consists of me
> > noodling around to bits
> > and pieces of various songs. I think I am going to
> > switch gears and
> > force myself to play a short set of songs from start
> > to finish every
> > night or so for say 2 weeks and see what that does.
> > I think it will
> > be important for me to play the entire song...either
> > lead or rhythm
> > and to play along with the recording. Can anyone
> > suggest 5 or 6
> > simple surf songs to play to get me out of a rut?
> >
> > Any other practicing strategies would be welcome.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > BN
> >
> > PS Hey we are creeping up on 100 members!
> >
> >
>
>
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Yep, got one of the volumes as well. Seems they're hard to get here. I guess
they're out of print ?
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On 11-1-2002 at 11:08 Mike Guerrero wrote:
>Another great cd to sit and play along with is Legends of Guitar: Surf cd
>(Rhino.) This comp ALWAYS gets me stoked to pick up my jaguar and crank
>up
>the reverb. It features Dick Dale, Lively Ones, The Astronauts,
>etc,etc....GREAT stuff!
>
>Mike
>
>
>
>At 08:37 AM 1/11/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>>My favorite surf song is the theme to black saddle.
>>Its on "Rare Surf Vol. 2." I thinks its the nocturns
>>or the southbay surfers. Great song. I can't get
>>enough of this tune.
>>
>>When I'm in a rut, I treat myself to a new cd (buy the
>>one I mentioned above, its mostly good and has 3
>>different bands on it. You're bound to like one of
>>'em . . . maybe even a lot!). Or buy some new gear.
>>Anything from little things like a pedal all the way
>>to a different amp makes a big difference in the
>>amount of enjoyment I get out of playing. To avoid
>>spending all our cash, my friends and I trade gear for
>>a bit. I got a buddy's Da Vinci (class A 1 X 12, like
>>a princeton only the tremolo is much cooler and he's
>>got my '59 bassman.
>>
>>Damon
>>--- xarxas <> wrote:
>> > Much to my surprise I haven't played the guitar too
>> > much in the last
>> > month. Currently my practicing consists of me
>> > noodling around to bits
>> > and pieces of various songs. I think I am going to
>> > switch gears and
>> > force myself to play a short set of songs from start
>> > to finish every
>> > night or so for say 2 weeks and see what that does.
>> > I think it will
>> > be important for me to play the entire song...either
>> > lead or rhythm
>> > and to play along with the recording. Can anyone
>> > suggest 5 or 6
>> > simple surf songs to play to get me out of a rut?
>> >
>> > Any other practicing strategies would be welcome.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > BN
>> >
>> > PS Hey we are creeping up on 100 members!
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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Thanks for all the good advice. Burning a practice CD sounds like a great
idea. I also have one of those portable mp3 player thingys, and I just
remembered it has a "A/B repeat" feature that lets you loop a section of
music. I think I'll load that baby up.
Another thing I saw mentioned on another list...(I think Bo turned me on to
this):
I have this instructional book/CD by Dave Celentano called "Surf Guitar:
Learn proven techniques, concepts, and equipment, beginning to advanced".
The book is kind of interesting, some of the advice is weird, but the best
part (and only reason to buy this) is that is has several Torquays songs,
from actual Torquays recordings, both with & without lead guitar. One of the
songs, Ding, was written by Pete Curry (Halibuts, Los Straitjackets, Jon &
The Nightriders, etc). And Twitchin' was covered by Jon & The Nightriders.
Very good tunes!
BN
--- In SurfGuitar101@y..., "xarxas" <bneal@z...> wrote:
> Can anyone suggest 5 or 6
> simple surf songs to play to get me out of a rut?
If you really want to improve your surf chops, get your mitts on the
Jim Messina & The Jesters record and practice with THAT every day for
a couple of weeks. Guaranteed results!
What works for me is to wring out a tune arrangement, either old or
new, borrowed or made up ... recording all the parts and working on
what needs tweaking to satisfy my own creativity. I record to PC via
a small mixer and edit the results with Cool Edit 2K. Sometimes I
use a Pandora PX-2 direct to the mixer and sometimes I'll SM57 mic an
amp or two. In the long run, it doesn't matter much how you record
your playing, even a simple cassette is fine. The idea is to get
involved and to critique your own playing.
Next up is constructive, focused jamming with others. I
say "focused" because we all know how some jams can really get waaay
off track and deteriorate the playing and reasons why yer jamming in
the first place.
The worst thing you can do is constant, mindless, aimless, riffing.
YMMV. Rob.
A nice li'l setup I like lots -
mmb.jpg
Brian,
One thing I have found is that it really helps to play tunes from
three piece bands. The reason is that the music is written to sound
good with one guitar and not two. I often find it is hard to make a
song written for lead and rhythm to sound any good when you are on
your own.
A great example of that is Instrumentals in the Key of Boss by the Sir
Finks (which I recently re-dicovered for this very reason). With one
or two exceptions this is a great CD if you are looking for something
to make you want to pick up the guitar and learn something new. It
offers this rare combination of inventive melodies that are oftentimes
fairly easy to get into.
Of course to play them as well as Mike Guerrero is a different story.
--- In SurfGuitar101@y..., "xarxas" <bneal@z...> wrote:
> Much to my surprise I haven't played the guitar too much in the last
> month. Currently my practicing consists of me noodling around to
bits
> and pieces of various songs. I think I am going to switch gears and
> force myself to play a short set of songs from start to finish every
> night or so for say 2 weeks and see what that does. I think it will
> be important for me to play the entire song...either lead or rhythm
> and to play along with the recording. Can anyone suggest 5 or 6
> simple surf songs to play to get me out of a rut?
>
> Any other practicing strategies would be welcome.
>
> Thanks,
>
> BN
>
> PS Hey we are creeping up on 100 members!
I have that disc by the Sir Finks and I think its great as well. I recall
figuring out most of Knights of the Long Board shortly after getting it.
There is some really fast and tightly controlled picking on that CD. Not for
the amateur or faint of heart. Great stuff!
BN
-----Original Message-----
From: lebodde [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:50 PM
To:
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Getting out of a rut
Brian,
One thing I have found is that it really helps to play tunes from
three piece bands. The reason is that the music is written to sound
good with one guitar and not two. I often find it is hard to make a
song written for lead and rhythm to sound any good when you are on
your own.
A great example of that is Instrumentals in the Key of Boss by the Sir
Finks (which I recently re-dicovered for this very reason). With one
or two exceptions this is a great CD if you are looking for something
to make you want to pick up the guitar and learn something new. It
offers this rare combination of inventive melodies that are oftentimes
fairly easy to get into.
Of course to play them as well as Mike Guerrero is a different story.
--- In SurfGuitar101@y..., "xarxas" <bneal@z...> wrote:
> Much to my surprise I haven't played the guitar too much in the last
> month. Currently my practicing consists of me noodling around to
bits
> and pieces of various songs. I think I am going to switch gears and
> force myself to play a short set of songs from start to finish every
> night or so for say 2 weeks and see what that does. I think it will
> be important for me to play the entire song...either lead or rhythm
> and to play along with the recording. Can anyone suggest 5 or 6
> simple surf songs to play to get me out of a rut?
>
> Any other practicing strategies would be welcome.
>
> Thanks,
>
> BN
>
> PS Hey we are creeping up on 100 members!
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Anyone have any ideas on how to get out of a practice (or lack thereof) rut?
Does anyone have a set practice schedule or routine? Do you try to learn new
songs or work on chops? Lengthy sessions or short bursts?
Thanks,
BN
You may laugh, but this works so well for me it's scary.
Throw on a James Bond movie (preferably pre-Dalton) and watch it
while you play; by not entirely focusing on what you're playing,
you'll stumble across some interesting melodies, progressions,
sounds, etc., a portion of which you (or at least, in my case) would
never have thought of if you were focusing 100% on what you were
playing.
I've caught myself playing songs I couldn't figure out when I sat
down to learn them. And hey, the theme song is *always* fun to play.
I'd really like to find out what other people do to break their ruts,
considering I've been in a rather severe one for the past few weeks.
-Warren
P.S. The one downside to the aforementioned method is that in the
weeks leading up to Christmas, I wound up watching all 20 Bond movies
in less than 20 days, without ever intending to.
--- In , "Brian Neal" <bneal@z...> wrote:
> Anyone have any ideas on how to get out of a practice (or lack
thereof) rut?
> Does anyone have a set practice schedule or routine? Do you try to
learn new
> songs or work on chops? Lengthy sessions or short bursts?
>
> Thanks,
> BN
I'm in a rut myself right now. I'm still playing the
same songs over and over, and for some reason I don't
seem to have the patience to sit down and learn new
songs or to put the grunt-work into learning my
scales. After hearing a band play a couple of the
songs I'm playing at a bar the other night, I realized
that I'm not even doing that very well. Maybe I've
peaked.
Richard
--- Brian Neal <> wrote:
> Anyone have any ideas on how to get out of a
> practice (or lack thereof) rut?
> Does anyone have a set practice schedule or routine?
> Do you try to learn new
> songs or work on chops? Lengthy sessions or short
> bursts?
>
> Thanks,
> BN
>
>
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Hi All,
Well, I find it difficult to play new songs, I was having a hard time
getting "Surf Party" right, but then I just let it go, I put on Nebula
One and listenend to the song for about 5 times and while listening I
was playing my guitar without really paying attention to what I was
doing, and all of a sudden I got it right...it just floated out of my
fingers, so I slowed down to memorize it.
This trick also works for other tunes which I found hard to fugure out.
I know some people use tabs, but I rather play by feel now, since this
allows you to start from scratch and play it on different strings and
geving a different sound to a tune.
Tabs are usefull to me, sometimes just to read the first chord or tone.
This method also allows me to find the chords that the rythem guitarist
usually plays.
I also like the album from the "Blue Stingrays" "Surf 'n'Burn" a lot.
They have very intersting melodies as well. But they are hard to play,
but good study material.
Jerry S. from Belgium
Brian:
the trick is to pick up that old guitar as much as
possible.
I don't know your life-situation (married, single, kids,
apartment, house, job...whatever) but you simply have to
open the case and take out your guitar. I love my little
peavey practice amp...I have my guitar sitting next to it,
I plug in and go. It helps if you have inspiration
nearby...cd/cassette/record player...turn on some Dick Dale
or Chantays and let it rip. Like any endeavor, about an
hour each day dedicated should lead to advancement. Perhaps
even setting up your practice place would help, set up your
reverb-shrine and make it a point to visit often.
good luck,
Dave P
--- Brian Neal <> wrote:
> Anyone have any ideas on how to get out of a practice (or
> lack thereof) rut?
> Does anyone have a set practice schedule or routine? Do
> you try to learn new
> songs or work on chops? Lengthy sessions or short bursts?
>
> Thanks,
> BN
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--- efrem_the_retarded_rabbit
<> wrote:
> You may laugh, but this works so well for me it's scary.
>
> Throw on a James Bond movie (preferably pre-Dalton) and
> watch it
> while you play; by not entirely focusing on what you're
> playing,
> you'll stumble across some interesting melodies,
> progressions,
> sounds, etc., a portion of which you (or at least, in my
> case) would
> never have thought of if you were focusing 100% on what
> you were
> playing.
>
> I've caught myself playing songs I couldn't figure out
> when I sat
> down to learn them. And hey, the theme song is *always*
> fun to play.
>
> I'd really like to find out what other people do to break
> their ruts,
> considering I've been in a rather severe one for the past
> few weeks.
>
> -Warren
>
> P.S. The one downside to the aforementioned method is
> that in the
> weeks leading up to Christmas, I wound up watching all 20
> Bond movies
> in less than 20 days, without ever intending to.
>
> --- In , "Brian Neal"
> <bneal@z...> wrote:
> > Anyone have any ideas on how to get out of a practice
> (or lack
> thereof) rut?
> > Does anyone have a set practice schedule or routine? Do
> you try to
> learn new
> > songs or work on chops? Lengthy sessions or short
> bursts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > BN
>
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Sometimes, not playing is just as important. Put the guitar down and take a
hike, let the melodies
in your head build, then go home and figure them out.
Another sure fire way to plow out the ruts is to try and learn something
completely different. Put
on a Duke Ellington record and try and pick up a few licks. Hell, there's only
12 notes right? You
can do it.
ferenc
DP wrote:
> Brian:
> the trick is to pick up that old guitar as much as
> possible.
> I don't know your life-situation (married, single, kids,
> apartment, house, job...whatever) but you simply have to
> open the case and take out your guitar. I love my little
> peavey practice amp...I have my guitar sitting next to it,
> I plug in and go. It helps if you have inspiration
> nearby...cd/cassette/record player...turn on some Dick Dale
> or Chantays and let it rip. Like any endeavor, about an
> hour each day dedicated should lead to advancement. Perhaps
> even setting up your practice place would help, set up your
> reverb-shrine and make it a point to visit often.
>
> good luck,
> Dave P
> --- Brian Neal <> wrote:
>
>>Anyone have any ideas on how to get out of a practice (or
>>lack thereof) rut?
>>Does anyone have a set practice schedule or routine? Do
>>you try to learn new
>>songs or work on chops? Lengthy sessions or short bursts?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>BN
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Those are definately a good points, Ferenc.
Going to the beach or out in the snow is a good way to get
inspired. Sometimes when I get out and get into the Big
City, I find I can't wait to get back and try some tunes.
Also getting out there and seeing some other performers is
usually inspirational. I guess it's just like surfing,
finding a cool balance point, step out on the nose, hang
ten, and watch out for the coral reef.
dp
--- Ferenc Dobronyi <> wrote:
> Sometimes, not playing is just as important. Put the
> guitar down and take a hike, let the melodies
> in your head build, then go home and figure them out.
>
> Another sure fire way to plow out the ruts is to try and
> learn something completely different. Put
> on a Duke Ellington record and try and pick up a few
> licks. Hell, there's only 12 notes right? You
> can do it.
> ferenc
>
>
>
> DP wrote:
> > Brian:
> > the trick is to pick up that old guitar as much as
> > possible.
> > I don't know your life-situation (married, single,
> kids,
> > apartment, house, job...whatever) but you simply have
> to
> > open the case and take out your guitar. I love my
> little
> > peavey practice amp...I have my guitar sitting next to
> it,
> > I plug in and go. It helps if you have inspiration
> > nearby...cd/cassette/record player...turn on some Dick
> Dale
> > or Chantays and let it rip. Like any endeavor, about
> an
> > hour each day dedicated should lead to advancement.
> Perhaps
> > even setting up your practice place would help, set up
> your
> > reverb-shrine and make it a point to visit often.
> >
> > good luck,
> > Dave P
> > --- Brian Neal <> wrote:
> >
> >>Anyone have any ideas on how to get out of a practice
> (or
> >>lack thereof) rut?
> >>Does anyone have a set practice schedule or routine? Do
> >>you try to learn new
> >>songs or work on chops? Lengthy sessions or short
> bursts?
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>BN
> >>
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