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Neal,
> ...... <g> <--(unlunf style! ;) )
You say this like it's a bad thing! <lol>
But truth be known, I get a crick in my neck
when I try to look at 'standard' emoticons!
unlunf
In a message dated 1/15/2006 10:13:41 P.M. Central Standard Time, writes:
Surf music is not underground. Underground is an archaic term, no longer
relevant to the informational age we live in. Everything is accessible now.
Underground is simply a term applied to things that aren't mainstream or in
the popular public conscious. It doesn't have to be inaccessible to be called
underground.
-MC
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In a message dated 1/16/2006 1:25:50 A.M. Central Standard Time, writes:
SRV was more waaaay more rock than blues,
and I would put him in the same camp as Clapton, Hendrix,
ZZ Top, and Ten Years After.
I still have to disagree. SRV was pure Texas blues - which admittedly is
probably a more "rocked up" version on the blues - electrified, boogie based,
not as raw as delta, and not as polished as Chicago, but real blues
nonetheless.
Sorry, I just always saw Clapton, Hendrix and ZZ Top as heavily blues
influenced rock acts, but always viewed SRV as a true blues act with crossover
mainstream appeal. Just my opinion.
-MC
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not a bad thing, just givin you props !
unlunf <> wrote: Neal,
> ...... <g> <--(unlunf style! ;) )
You say this like it's a bad thing! <lol>
But truth be known, I get a crick in my neck
when I try to look at 'standard' emoticons!
unlunf
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Neal,
And who could ask for more?! Thanks, buddy!
unlunf
--- In , "Neal S." <memoryover@y...> wrote:
>
> not a bad thing, just givin you props !
>
> unlunf <unlunf@y...> wrote: Neal,
>>
>> ...... <g> <--(unlunf style! ;) )
>>
>> You say this like it's a bad thing! <lol>
>>
>> But truth be known, I get a crick in my neck
>> when I try to look at 'standard' emoticons!
>>
>> unlunf
>
All this talk about young fellas having fun and playing surf for
their college-aged friends, factored in with the Myspace boom has
got me thinking....
Does this mean that The Lava Rats are the future of surf???? I
mean... we're slightly post-college aged (25-27), even if some of us
still party like we're in college.... Most people who have seen us
agree that we play some good up-tempo craziness that gets the kids
shimmy-shaking. Moreover, in the last month, our Myspace page has
been blowing up... we've logged nearly a thousand hits and 150
new "friends" since Dec. 15th.
To top it all off... we are gradually inching towards a new CD, with
song number nine in the "pipeline" as it were, and many more ideas
stewing up in the brain banana.
So keep the surf up, and if you get a chance, grab a listen to us
crazy young fellas do our thing sometime.
~Bill~
The Lava Rats
www.thelavarats.com
www.myspace.com/thelavarats
My personal view is that "newer" audiences are simply the "uninitiated". That
could be younger people OR others who haven't gotten the exposure to date or
can't "identify" the genre distinctly as they hear it - like on TV.
I also don't distinguish between underground and accessibility. To me, it's more
of what keeps evolving in the pop consciousness and whether people have the
passion to seek out the music they enjoy, live or recorded. It's accessible
alright. It's even accessible in Brazil, go find it!
I agree audiences like to hear the songs they know well. If you have a Surf band
and get to introduce non-Surf audiences to Surf by blending your Surf material
with well-known tunes, why not consider doing it? It is a proven success model
for bands of all kinds to do at least some covers in their performances.
As a sidenote, I would think some established artists would just LOVE to get
away from the legacy of even their OWN hits? It's rather impossible from the
standpoint of what fans demand. That means Mick will be singing Satisfaction and
Billy will eek out Piano Man all their days, lest they alienate their audiences.
The same is true of Surf, but rather, lesser known Surf bands are representative
of a genre and less as specific artists with hits to identify themselves with.
Only a few Surf/Instro artists have had the hits for which their audience will
always demand the specific music - Dick/Misirlou, Ventures/Walk Don't Run, etc
therefore, the bands in the Surf/Instro genre get the demand to play these hits
whether the "star" is not around or not. I think this is where the perceived
"oldies" connection gets made because all the pop Surf hits happened years ago.
Doesn't matter. I think it's still fine if some people react, "Oh yeah, I
remember that stuff!" (Nevertheless, I still have a zipgun targeted for the guy
who yells "Wipeout!") :-D
Something that hasn't been mentioned in the context of this thread (at least so
far), is the expansion of the Surf genre to newer audiences by "almost-Surf" pop
bands. Even bands like The B-52s, who gain popularity with rock or rockabilly
audiences may lead their followers to places where they may "discover" Surf by
walking around the related items (e.g. Mosrite guitars), reading about band
influences or the things with which Surf has an association. Brian Setzer has
won at least one grammy for Sleepwalk. SCOTS may have caused people to get into
Surf, by the songs they do and the instruments they played (e.g. Danos). There
are many names of both "underground" and pop artists who have contributed
awareness to Surf indirectly. And we thank them. E.g. REM/Bamib's tour was a
perfect combo to execute along these lines.
With that and to my point about the oldies perception of Surf - to shake it off
(if that's what you want) is to re-imprint the pop consciousness in a new
up-to-date way. I think Marty mentioned movies - he's right. What if a modern
pop band, say REM, had a huge brand new hit of their own (say, a Bambi's cover?)
which was essentially Surf/Instro styled? New uninitiated audiences would relate
it to REM and then to Surf bands, saying, "Wow, they do that REM stuff!" Now,
wouldn't that be weird? ;-) Well, in reality, haven't we already had a movie
precedent? it was called Pulp Fiction. And we've had the abominated music
precedent, Miserlou/Black Eyed Peas, no?
This is such a multi-dimensional topic.
Still ends up being education and marketing.
BW Dave
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [mailto:]
>On Behalf Of trainwayne
>Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 5:28 PM
>To:
>Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: expanding SURF MUSIC to newer audiences
>
>I've been following this discussion, and have a couple of questions
>I'd like to pose to all of you that have commented. When you
>say "newer audiences", do you mean younger people, or people of all
>ages who have heard surf music, but don't know the specific genre?
>Isn't the concept the same, no matter what the targeted audience?
>Isn't it about marketing what you have? My own personal preference
>would be to play only traditional surf, however, the new project I'm
>involved in is going to play surf and pop hit's from the 60's that
>were popular when surf was at it's peak. Audiences love to hear
>songs they know well, but after you go thru the 6-8 surf songs that
>were popular radio hits there really isn't a lot of material that
>people in general will recognize. It would be great to play in front
>of real surf fans all the time, but as a musician I feel that
>playing to larger audiences in bigger venues expands your musical
>capabilities, in both popularity and monetary terms. I know that
>some surf musicians are dedicated purists, and I respect that,
>however, I do feel that by playing other related music that's more
>well known and recognized by general audiences, you have a platform
>to introduce more people to real surf and give them an understanding
>about the music. As someone commented earlier, a lot of people have
>heard surf music....they just aren't aware of what it
>is....IMHO....looking forward to reading your thoughts on the
>subject.
>--- In , scanman@a... wrote:
>>
>> Exactly. That's why we need to edge-u-macate them.........
>>
>>
>>
>> ---- Jacob Dobner <jacobdobner@y...> wrote:
>> > But people don't know what it is.
>> >
>> > --- In , scanman@a... wrote:
>> > >
>> > > The funny thing about surf music is it seems to be underground,
>> > especially in certain states, but in reality it's not
>underground at
>> > all. Just turn on your TV set. It's everywhere.
>> > > Billy
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ---- Jacob Dobner <jacobdobner@y...> wrote:
>> > > > Maybe it isn't underground in California but it sure is
>underground in
>> > > > Seattle. People don't even know what surf it. They don't
>respond to
>> > > > that song from Pulp Fiction or Wipe Out in many cases. Most
>people
>> > > > will respond to Blues, Swing, and to a lesser extent
>bluegrass.
>> > > >
>> > > > --- In , snydr@s... wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I understand your sentiment, but surf music as
>underground?
>> > Actually
>> > > > > you nailed it with your examples - blues, swing,
>bluegrass - all
>> > > > > historical forms of music, surf fits right in there. Not
>> > underground -
>> > > > > just under-appreciated.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I would think if you asked a working blues or bluegrass
>> > musician if
>> > > > > they were glad to have a bubble of popularity that exposes
>the
>> > music to
>> > > > > new fans, influences younger musicians and creates new
>markets,
>> > they
>> > > > > would probably answer in the affirmative. As players in a
>currently
>> > > > > little appreciated genre, we tend to get very possessive,
>> > keepers of
>> > > > > the faith and all that, and there's a certain kind pride
>we all
>> > share
>> > > > > in being in a select club so to speak. But would I rather
>play to a
>> > > > > group of 10 hardcore fans or 300 neophytes on the
>bandwagon?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > There seems to be a cycle to these popularity bubbles:
>Some event
>> > > > > establishes the buzz, the press picks it up and accelerates
>> > interest,
>> > > > > the public start buying up the most commercial examples of
>the
>> > style in
>> > > > > large quantities, record labels try to capitalize on it by
>> > signing lots
>> > > > > of bands, attendance at shows rise dramatically. Then
>after about a
>> > > > > year or so, it tapers, goes into decline and the
>popularity settles
>> > > > > into it's new, somewhat higher level of hardcore fans and
>> > players. But
>> > > > > I do believe it's a net gain and ultimately is worth the
>foray into
>> > > > > mainstream popularity.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Danny Snyder
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Jan 15, 2006, at 8:42 AM, MattCrunk@a... wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > To me mainstream popularity is the kiss of death for any
>> > underground
>> > > > > > musicÃÆÃâ
>> > > > > > scene.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I was into blues back when it was music made by old
>black men
>> > and
>> > > > > > onlyÃÆÃâ a few
>> > > > > > white guys played it. Then along comes Stevie Ray
>Vaughan and
>> > > > > > suddenlyÃÆÃâ
>> > > > > > everybody is a blues man.ÃÆÃâ Next, I turned on to
>swing at a time
>> > > > when
>> > > > > > nobodyÃÆÃâ
>> > > > > > contemporary played it - then Brain Setzer goes swing,
>> > followed by a
>> > > > > > slew of newÃÆÃâ
>> > > > > > big bands. Same thing with bluegrass. I got heavily
>into it just
>> > > > > > before theÃÆÃâ
>> > > > > > Dixie Chicks and Oh' Brother came along and busted it
>wide open.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I'd certainly hate to see anything like that happen to
>surf.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > -Matt Crunk
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I would love to see and entire generation of bands like Monster Pete,
Lava Rats, Infrareds, Volcanics, etc emerge!
Keep it up!
BW Dave
>-----Original Message-----
>From:
[mailto:]
>On Behalf Of Bill Bergstrom
>Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 2:29 PM
>To:
>Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: expanding SURF MUSIC to newer audiences
>
>All this talk about young fellas having fun and playing surf for
>their college-aged friends, factored in with the Myspace boom has
>got me thinking....
>
>Does this mean that The Lava Rats are the future of surf???? I
>mean... we're slightly post-college aged (25-27), even if some of us
>still party like we're in college.... Most people who have seen us
>agree that we play some good up-tempo craziness that gets the kids
>shimmy-shaking. Moreover, in the last month, our Myspace page has
>been blowing up... we've logged nearly a thousand hits and 150
>new "friends" since Dec. 15th.
>
>To top it all off... we are gradually inching towards a new CD, with
>song number nine in the "pipeline" as it were, and many more ideas
>stewing up in the brain banana.
>
>So keep the surf up, and if you get a chance, grab a listen to us
>crazy young fellas do our thing sometime.
>
>~Bill~
>The Lava Rats
>
>www.thelavarats.com
>www.myspace.com/thelavarats
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Hey Bill,
I hear you from another surf band with young fellas (23-24) myspace
show shows a lot of younger college aged kids who seem to be into
more roots styled music. We actually have been asked to play a few
loft parties for college kids through myspace, that were some of
the most fun gigs we've played. I know another band with guys even
younger than us, the 'Verb and a few other younger surf bands which
have been on myspace for awhile as well, and most seem to think it's
a good place. If one thing it's encouraging to get all these people
listening to your music, but it's kind of a shame that everyone is
spread out around the world.
I think the mid to late 90s had some of the best "newer" surf acts.
But I think think there are some defintaly great musicians within
the ages of 21-30 playing surf music right now.
Bill
www.reluctantaquanauts.com
--- In , "Bill Bergstrom"
<swingin_cat@h...> wrote:
>
> All this talk about young fellas having fun and playing surf for
> their college-aged friends, factored in with the Myspace boom has
> got me thinking....
>
> Does this mean that The Lava Rats are the future of surf???? I
> mean... we're slightly post-college aged (25-27), even if some of
us
> still party like we're in college.... Most people who have seen us
> agree that we play some good up-tempo craziness that gets the kids
> shimmy-shaking. Moreover, in the last month, our Myspace page has
> been blowing up... we've logged nearly a thousand hits and 150
> new "friends" since Dec. 15th.
>
> To top it all off... we are gradually inching towards a new CD,
with
> song number nine in the "pipeline" as it were, and many more ideas
> stewing up in the brain banana.
>
> So keep the surf up, and if you get a chance, grab a listen to us
> crazy young fellas do our thing sometime.
>
> ~Bill~
> The Lava Rats
>
> www.thelavarats.com
> www.myspace.com/thelavarats
>
--- In , "Bill Bergstrom"
<swingin_cat@h...> wrote:
>
> Does this mean that The Lava Rats are the future of surf????
If the Lava Rats are the future of surf, then we're in good hands.
Keep rockin' and reverbin' Bill.
Danny Snyder
I am in The 'Verb. We are all 21(I'm almost 22). We get asked to play
quite a few "teen shows". There is always a couple, or one,
enthusiastic person that comes up to us after the show. We get a lot
receptive people in bars and with a slightly older crowd.
Myspace has been kind to us.
--- In , "supertwangreverb"
<supertwangreverb@y...> wrote:
>
> Hey Bill,
>
> I hear you from another surf band with young fellas (23-24) myspace
> show shows a lot of younger college aged kids who seem to be into
> more roots styled music. We actually have been asked to play a few
> loft parties for college kids through myspace, that were some of
> the most fun gigs we've played. I know another band with guys even
> younger than us, the 'Verb and a few other younger surf bands which
> have been on myspace for awhile as well, and most seem to think it's
> a good place. If one thing it's encouraging to get all these people
> listening to your music, but it's kind of a shame that everyone is
> spread out around the world.
>
> I think the mid to late 90s had some of the best "newer" surf acts.
> But I think think there are some defintaly great musicians within
> the ages of 21-30 playing surf music right now.
>
> Bill
> www.reluctantaquanauts.com
>
>
>
>
> --- In , "Bill Bergstrom"
> <swingin_cat@h...> wrote:
> >
> > All this talk about young fellas having fun and playing surf for
> > their college-aged friends, factored in with the Myspace boom has
> > got me thinking....
> >
> > Does this mean that The Lava Rats are the future of surf???? I
> > mean... we're slightly post-college aged (25-27), even if some of
> us
> > still party like we're in college.... Most people who have seen us
> > agree that we play some good up-tempo craziness that gets the kids
> > shimmy-shaking. Moreover, in the last month, our Myspace page has
> > been blowing up... we've logged nearly a thousand hits and 150
> > new "friends" since Dec. 15th.
> >
> > To top it all off... we are gradually inching towards a new CD,
> with
> > song number nine in the "pipeline" as it were, and many more ideas
> > stewing up in the brain banana.
> >
> > So keep the surf up, and if you get a chance, grab a listen to us
> > crazy young fellas do our thing sometime.
> >
> > ~Bill~
> > The Lava Rats
> >
> > www.thelavarats.com
> > www.myspace.com/thelavarats
> >
>
I forgot to mention we were our local "alt-rock/pop-rock"'s Myspace
band of the week.
--- In , "Jacob Dobner"
<jacobdobner@y...> wrote:
>
> I am in The 'Verb. We are all 21(I'm almost 22). We get asked to play
> quite a few "teen shows". There is always a couple, or one,
> enthusiastic person that comes up to us after the show. We get a lot
> receptive people in bars and with a slightly older crowd.
>
> Myspace has been kind to us.
>
> --- In , "supertwangreverb"
> <supertwangreverb@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Bill,
> >
> > I hear you from another surf band with young fellas (23-24) myspace
> > show shows a lot of younger college aged kids who seem to be into
> > more roots styled music. We actually have been asked to play a few
> > loft parties for college kids through myspace, that were some of
> > the most fun gigs we've played. I know another band with guys even
> > younger than us, the 'Verb and a few other younger surf bands which
> > have been on myspace for awhile as well, and most seem to think it's
> > a good place. If one thing it's encouraging to get all these people
> > listening to your music, but it's kind of a shame that everyone is
> > spread out around the world.
> >
> > I think the mid to late 90s had some of the best "newer" surf acts.
> > But I think think there are some defintaly great musicians within
> > the ages of 21-30 playing surf music right now.
> >
> > Bill
> > www.reluctantaquanauts.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In , "Bill Bergstrom"
> > <swingin_cat@h...> wrote:
> > >
> > > All this talk about young fellas having fun and playing surf for
> > > their college-aged friends, factored in with the Myspace boom has
> > > got me thinking....
> > >
> > > Does this mean that The Lava Rats are the future of surf???? I
> > > mean... we're slightly post-college aged (25-27), even if some of
> > us
> > > still party like we're in college.... Most people who have seen us
> > > agree that we play some good up-tempo craziness that gets the kids
> > > shimmy-shaking. Moreover, in the last month, our Myspace page has
> > > been blowing up... we've logged nearly a thousand hits and 150
> > > new "friends" since Dec. 15th.
> > >
> > > To top it all off... we are gradually inching towards a new CD,
> > with
> > > song number nine in the "pipeline" as it were, and many more ideas
> > > stewing up in the brain banana.
> > >
> > > So keep the surf up, and if you get a chance, grab a listen to us
> > > crazy young fellas do our thing sometime.
> > >
> > > ~Bill~
> > > The Lava Rats
> > >
> > > www.thelavarats.com
> > > www.myspace.com/thelavarats
> > >
> >
>
We are still in our teens and will never get older!!
Recent picture:
/ Klas
--- In , "supertwangreverb"
<supertwangreverb@y...> wrote:
>
> Hey Bill,
>
> I hear you from another surf band with young fellas (23-24) myspace
> show shows a lot of younger college aged kids who seem to be into
> more roots styled music. We actually have been asked to play a few
> loft parties for college kids through myspace, that were some of
> the most fun gigs we've played. I know another band with guys even
> younger than us, the 'Verb and a few other younger surf bands which
> have been on myspace for awhile as well, and most seem to think
it's
> a good place. If one thing it's encouraging to get all these
people
> listening to your music, but it's kind of a shame that everyone is
> spread out around the world.
>
> I think the mid to late 90s had some of the best "newer" surf
acts.
> But I think think there are some defintaly great musicians within
> the ages of 21-30 playing surf music right now.
>
> Bill
> www.reluctantaquanauts.com
>
>
>
>
> --- In , "Bill Bergstrom"
> <swingin_cat@h...> wrote:
> >
> > All this talk about young fellas having fun and playing surf for
> > their college-aged friends, factored in with the Myspace boom has
> > got me thinking....
> >
> > Does this mean that The Lava Rats are the future of surf???? I
> > mean... we're slightly post-college aged (25-27), even if some of
> us
> > still party like we're in college.... Most people who have seen
us
> > agree that we play some good up-tempo craziness that gets the
kids
> > shimmy-shaking. Moreover, in the last month, our Myspace page
has
> > been blowing up... we've logged nearly a thousand hits and 150
> > new "friends" since Dec. 15th.
> >
> > To top it all off... we are gradually inching towards a new CD,
> with
> > song number nine in the "pipeline" as it were, and many more
ideas
> > stewing up in the brain banana.
> >
> > So keep the surf up, and if you get a chance, grab a listen to us
> > crazy young fellas do our thing sometime.
> >
> > ~Bill~
> > The Lava Rats
> >
> > www.thelavarats.com
> > www.myspace.com/thelavarats
> >
>
If surf music can somehow be tied in to modern off-mainstream sports
activites like extreme games and drifting. Imagine a show on extreme
games in ESPN with a modern surf soundtrack.
--- In , "Dave Becker" <novapup@i...> wrote:
>
> I would love to see and entire generation of bands like Monster Pete,
> Lava Rats, Infrareds, Volcanics, etc emerge!
>
> Keep it up!
> BW Dave
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From:
> [mailto:]
> >On Behalf Of Bill Bergstrom
> >Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 2:29 PM
> >To:
> >Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: expanding SURF MUSIC to newer audiences
> >
> >All this talk about young fellas having fun and playing surf for
> >their college-aged friends, factored in with the Myspace boom has
> >got me thinking....
> >
> >Does this mean that The Lava Rats are the future of surf???? I
> >mean... we're slightly post-college aged (25-27), even if some of us
> >still party like we're in college.... Most people who have seen us
> >agree that we play some good up-tempo craziness that gets the kids
> >shimmy-shaking. Moreover, in the last month, our Myspace page has
> >been blowing up... we've logged nearly a thousand hits and 150
> >new "friends" since Dec. 15th.
> >
> >To top it all off... we are gradually inching towards a new CD, with
> >song number nine in the "pipeline" as it were, and many more ideas
> >stewing up in the brain banana.
> >
> >So keep the surf up, and if you get a chance, grab a listen to us
> >crazy young fellas do our thing sometime.
> >
> >~Bill~
> >The Lava Rats
> >
> >www.thelavarats.com
> >www.myspace.com/thelavarats
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >.
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> messages,
> >bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
At least in Sweden, this was already the case during the mid 90s top
years. Our former band, the Daytonas were featured in articles in
extreme sports magazines and we also performed on such TV shows. At
the time I thought it was a good thing, today I don't.
Klas / The Surfites
--- In , "Tony" <outerwave@s...> wrote:
>
> If surf music can somehow be tied in to modern off-mainstream sports
> activites like extreme games and drifting. Imagine a show on extreme
> games in ESPN with a modern surf soundtrack.
>
> --- In , "Dave Becker" <novapup@i...>
wrote:
> >
> > I would love to see and entire generation of bands like Monster
Pete,
> > Lava Rats, Infrareds, Volcanics, etc emerge!
> >
> > Keep it up!
> > BW Dave
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From:
> > [mailto:]
> > >On Behalf Of Bill Bergstrom
> > >Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 2:29 PM
> > >To:
> > >Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: expanding SURF MUSIC to newer
audiences
> > >
> > >All this talk about young fellas having fun and playing surf for
> > >their college-aged friends, factored in with the Myspace boom has
> > >got me thinking....
> > >
> > >Does this mean that The Lava Rats are the future of surf???? I
> > >mean... we're slightly post-college aged (25-27), even if some
of us
> > >still party like we're in college.... Most people who have seen
us
> > >agree that we play some good up-tempo craziness that gets the
kids
> > >shimmy-shaking. Moreover, in the last month, our Myspace page
has
> > >been blowing up... we've logged nearly a thousand hits and 150
> > >new "friends" since Dec. 15th.
> > >
> > >To top it all off... we are gradually inching towards a new CD,
with
> > >song number nine in the "pipeline" as it were, and many more
ideas
> > >stewing up in the brain banana.
> > >
> > >So keep the surf up, and if you get a chance, grab a listen to us
> > >crazy young fellas do our thing sometime.
> > >
> > >~Bill~
> > >The Lava Rats
> > >
> > >www.thelavarats.com
> > >www.myspace.com/thelavarats
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >.
> > >Visit for archived
> > messages,
> > >bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
> > >
> > >Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
THIS IS THE WAY!
Nice, Jacob!
>-----Original Message-----
>From:
[mailto:]
>On Behalf Of Jacob Dobner
>Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:35 PM
>To:
>Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: expanding SURF MUSIC to newer audiences
>
>I forgot to mention we were our local "alt-rock/pop-rock"'s Myspace
>band of the week.
>
>--- In , "Jacob Dobner"
><jacobdobner@y...> wrote:
>>
>> I am in The 'Verb. We are all 21(I'm almost 22). We get asked to play
>> quite a few "teen shows". There is always a couple, or one,
>> enthusiastic person that comes up to us after the show. We get a lot
>> receptive people in bars and with a slightly older crowd.
>>
>> Myspace has been kind to us.
>>
>> --- In , "supertwangreverb"
>> <supertwangreverb@y...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hey Bill,
>> >
>> > I hear you from another surf band with young fellas (23-24) myspace
>> > show shows a lot of younger college aged kids who seem to be into
>> > more roots styled music. We actually have been asked to play a few
>> > loft parties for college kids through myspace, that were some of
>> > the most fun gigs we've played. I know another band with guys even
>> > younger than us, the 'Verb and a few other younger surf bands which
>> > have been on myspace for awhile as well, and most seem to think
it's
>> > a good place. If one thing it's encouraging to get all these
people
>> > listening to your music, but it's kind of a shame that everyone is
>> > spread out around the world.
>> >
>> > I think the mid to late 90s had some of the best "newer" surf acts.
>> > But I think think there are some defintaly great musicians within
>> > the ages of 21-30 playing surf music right now.
>> >
>> > Bill
>> > www.reluctantaquanauts.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In , "Bill Bergstrom"
>> > <swingin_cat@h...> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > All this talk about young fellas having fun and playing surf for
>> > > their college-aged friends, factored in with the Myspace boom has
>> > > got me thinking....
>> > >
>> > > Does this mean that The Lava Rats are the future of surf???? I
>> > > mean... we're slightly post-college aged (25-27), even if some of
>> > us
>> > > still party like we're in college.... Most people who have seen
us
>> > > agree that we play some good up-tempo craziness that gets the
kids
>> > > shimmy-shaking. Moreover, in the last month, our Myspace page
has
>> > > been blowing up... we've logged nearly a thousand hits and 150
>> > > new "friends" since Dec. 15th.
>> > >
>> > > To top it all off... we are gradually inching towards a new CD,
>> > with
>> > > song number nine in the "pipeline" as it were, and many more
ideas
>> > > stewing up in the brain banana.
>> > >
>> > > So keep the surf up, and if you get a chance, grab a listen to us
>> > > crazy young fellas do our thing sometime.
>> > >
>> > > ~Bill~
>> > > The Lava Rats
>> > >
>> > > www.thelavarats.com
>> > > www.myspace.com/thelavarats
>> > >
>> >
>>
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I hear what your saying but Blues is also a state of mind.
and in that fact, I think the early ZZtop was pretty darned bluesy.
Shi they took fuckin' farm animals on the road with them, and
brought them all up onstage. It don't get more down home than that.
And if the town they were playing,didn't have a good selection of
groupies, then:...
You always had the sheep ;-/
Jeff(bigtikidude)
--- In , MattCrunk@a... wrote:
>
> Sorry, I just always saw Clapton, Hendrix and ZZ Top as heavily
blues
> influenced rock acts, but always viewed SRV as a true blues act
with crossover
> mainstream appeal. Just my opinion.
>
> -MC
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
I agree, more youngin's need to get into the game.
I had really high hopes for the Stingrays from San Clemente
from 97 to 2000. but they all lost interest, stood on stage looking
like thay hated doin it, and all started new bands. i.e
Punk,emo,etc....
oh well it was good to see them shred and almost show up
Slacktone, and Brasil 2001 at one point.
But it didn't last.
Jeff(bigtikidude)
--- In , "Dave Becker" <novapup@i...>
wrote:
>
> I would love to see and entire generation of bands like Monster
Pete,
> Lava Rats, Infrareds, Volcanics, etc emerge!
>
> Keep it up!
> BW Dave
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From:
> [mailto:]
> >On Behalf Of Bill Bergstrom
> >Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 2:29 PM
> >To:
> >Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: expanding SURF MUSIC to newer
audiences
> >
> >All this talk about young fellas having fun and playing surf for
> >their college-aged friends, factored in with the Myspace boom has
> >got me thinking....
> >
> >Does this mean that The Lava Rats are the future of surf???? I
> >mean... we're slightly post-college aged (25-27), even if some of
us
> >still party like we're in college.... Most people who have seen us
> >agree that we play some good up-tempo craziness that gets the kids
> >shimmy-shaking. Moreover, in the last month, our Myspace page has
> >been blowing up... we've logged nearly a thousand hits and 150
> >new "friends" since Dec. 15th.
> >
> >To top it all off... we are gradually inching towards a new CD,
with
> >song number nine in the "pipeline" as it were, and many more ideas
> >stewing up in the brain banana.
> >
> >So keep the surf up, and if you get a chance, grab a listen to us
> >crazy young fellas do our thing sometime.
> >
> >~Bill~
> >The Lava Rats
> >
> >www.thelavarats.com
> >www.myspace.com/thelavarats
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >Visit for archived
> messages,
> >bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
--- In , MattCrunk@a... wrote:
>
> But when I said we
> were putting on a surf show his reaction was "What, you mean like the Beach
> Boys?" I said "No, like Dick Dale". Then he got it.
I'm almost tempted to start a vocal band,
just to say:
"Yeah! Like The Beach Boys!"
KK
--- In , MattCrunk@a... wrote:
>Same thing with bluegrass. I got heavily into it just before the
> Dixie Chicks and Oh' Brother came along and busted it wide open.
>
> I'd certainly hate to see anything like that happen to surf.
Bad news - it already happened!
KK
