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Yeah, that Ed Roman is a piece of work. The Mosrites he sells aren't the same as
the ones Chris and I have. They're made by a different Japanese company and they
don't have the Ventures logo. I don't know what other differences there are. I'm
guessing they're good quality but you're right, those prices are ridiculous. The
Excellents were also expensive but not ridiculous. They sold for around a grand,
the next model up was around 1400- and the sidejack was just under 3G's.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: supertwangreverb
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:29 AM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
Someone's got some spare cash laying around :)
Our old obese drummer had a excellent 65 and it sounded great.
Couldn't put heavy strings on it tho, and man, the neck was so
thin! I thought if I could play a Jaguar I'd be able to play
anything (What a good debate that would be, "Jaguar vs Mosrite's
playability")
I was in Vegas last May and had to stop off at Ed Romans, what a fat
idiot, anyway he had the sidejacks, and the regular Mosrite models.
I think the side jack was around 4 grand and the regular was
$2500.00. No Japanese reissue is worth that.
Bill
--- In , "Marty Tippens"
<mctippens@e...> wrote:
> I also have an Excellent as well as the Super Custom '65, the '63
Royal (sidejack), an original '66 Ventures Model XII, and an '89
Tone Chamber. The Tone Chamber can be seen at and the excellent with Jon's
original Mosrite Ventures Model Bass at .
> -Marty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chris
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:35 AM
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
>
>
>
> We both have the same model. The '65 Excellent. We bought them
> from Michael at My Rare Guitars.com thinking it would be cool
to
> have matching Mosrites. neither of us can play them very well,
and
> sometimes they just don't have the sound you want for the
material
> we're doing. someday we might bust them out for a ventures
> tribute. They sure are cool looking guitars.
> I noticed Marty plays Mosrites - what models, year, etc?
>
> --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > I was also admiring the Mosrites on your site, Chris. It looks
as
> if the other guitarist has an original '65 or is that the
Japanese
> copy they call the Custom '65? Is yours the "Excellent"? All of
> those Japanese models really were very well made. It's a shame
they
> had their hand slapped and had to stop production. I also agree
> about the difficult necks, but they have a great tone.
> > -Marty
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Chris
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 10:05 PM
> > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Mosrites, was Re: Fender Jaguar
> Baritone/Bass VI finished
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In , Brian Neal
<brian@s...>
> wrote:
> > > Chris,
> > >
> > > Nice job on the website, BTW.
> >
> > Thanks Brian - I't's getting better all the time.
> > >
> > > Just wanted to ask a follow up question, I see you have a
> Mosrite
> > also.
> > > Is it an original or a copy (if so what kind)? How does it
> compare
> > to
> > > your Jag & Jazzmaster?
> >
> > The Mosrite is a japanese reissue. It says "Mosrite of
> > California" and has the Ventures logo on the headstock.
It's
> really
> > a well built guitar, and has that Mosrite sound. It's hard
to
> > play. Skinny neck, tight string spacing. As I improve as a
> guitar
> > player, I can finally struggle through a few songs with it,
but
> i
> > really have to concentrate. jags and JM's are much
freindlier
> to
> > play I think.
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Yes, the Excellent 65 I played was REALLY close to what Ed Roman is
selling these days. I hear Nokie Edwards was rather instrumental in
having the Excellent 65s pulled, and has had his people pester some
ebay sellers. I hear he refers to them, in his accent,
as "contraband!"
Bill
--- In , "Marty Tippens"
<mctippens@e...> wrote:
> Yeah, that Ed Roman is a piece of work. The Mosrites he sells
aren't the same as the ones Chris and I have. They're made by a
different Japanese company and they don't have the Ventures logo. I
don't know what other differences there are. I'm guessing they're
good quality but you're right, those prices are ridiculous. The
Excellents were also expensive but not ridiculous. They sold for
around a grand, the next model up was around 1400- and the sidejack
was just under 3G's.
> -Marty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: supertwangreverb
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:29 AM
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
>
>
>
> Someone's got some spare cash laying around :)
> Our old obese drummer had a excellent 65 and it sounded great.
> Couldn't put heavy strings on it tho, and man, the neck was so
> thin! I thought if I could play a Jaguar I'd be able to play
> anything (What a good debate that would be, "Jaguar vs Mosrite's
> playability")
>
> I was in Vegas last May and had to stop off at Ed Romans, what a
fat
> idiot, anyway he had the sidejacks, and the regular Mosrite
models.
> I think the side jack was around 4 grand and the regular was
> $2500.00. No Japanese reissue is worth that.
>
> Bill
>
> --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > I also have an Excellent as well as the Super Custom '65,
the '63
> Royal (sidejack), an original '66 Ventures Model XII, and an '89
> Tone Chamber. The Tone Chamber can be seen at
> and the excellent with
Jon's
> original Mosrite Ventures Model Bass at
> .
> > -Marty
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Chris
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:35 AM
> > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
> >
> >
> >
> > We both have the same model. The '65 Excellent. We bought
them
> > from Michael at My Rare Guitars.com thinking it would be
cool
> to
> > have matching Mosrites. neither of us can play them very
well,
> and
> > sometimes they just don't have the sound you want for the
> material
> > we're doing. someday we might bust them out for a ventures
> > tribute. They sure are cool looking guitars.
> > I noticed Marty plays Mosrites - what models, year, etc?
> >
> > --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> > <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > > I was also admiring the Mosrites on your site, Chris. It
looks
> as
> > if the other guitarist has an original '65 or is that the
> Japanese
> > copy they call the Custom '65? Is yours the "Excellent"? All
of
> > those Japanese models really were very well made. It's a
shame
> they
> > had their hand slapped and had to stop production. I also
agree
> > about the difficult necks, but they have a great tone.
> > > -Marty
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Chris
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 10:05 PM
> > > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Mosrites, was Re: Fender Jaguar
> > Baritone/Bass VI finished
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In , Brian Neal
> <brian@s...>
> > wrote:
> > > > Chris,
> > > >
> > > > Nice job on the website, BTW.
> > >
> > > Thanks Brian - I't's getting better all the time.
> > > >
> > > > Just wanted to ask a follow up question, I see you
have a
> > Mosrite
> > > also.
> > > > Is it an original or a copy (if so what kind)? How
does it
> > compare
> > > to
> > > > your Jag & Jazzmaster?
> > >
> > > The Mosrite is a japanese reissue. It says "Mosrite
of
> > > California" and has the Ventures logo on the headstock.
> It's
> > really
> > > a well built guitar, and has that Mosrite sound. It's
hard
> to
> > > play. Skinny neck, tight string spacing. As I improve
as a
> > guitar
> > > player, I can finally struggle through a few songs with
it,
> but
> > i
> > > really have to concentrate. jags and JM's are much
> freindlier
> > to
> > > play I think.
> > >
> > > Chris
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I've listed a couple of "Excellent 65" models on ebay and been sent
threatening letters from The Ventures law firm and had the auctions
pulled off by ebay. I was told that ANYTHING with The Ventures logo
except original Mosrites built in the '60s are illegal.....however,
when I asked the law firm for a list of legitimate serial numbers
for the Ventures models, they said that they had them but wouldn't
release them to anyone. I currently have one of the Mosrites that E.
Roman sells.....funny how as soon as he became the "exclusive"
distributor of those models the price jumped $600. Mike at
myrareguitars.com still has pictures of Mosrites for sale that he
says were built by Semie Mosely in the 80s that have the Ventures
logo on them......perhaps his being located in Canada keeps The
Ventures Police from bothering him? --- In, "supertwangreverb"
<supertwangreverb@y...> wrote:
>
> Yes, the Excellent 65 I played was REALLY close to what Ed Roman
is
> selling these days. I hear Nokie Edwards was rather instrumental
in
> having the Excellent 65s pulled, and has had his people pester
some
> ebay sellers. I hear he refers to them, in his accent,
> as "contraband!"
>
> Bill
>
> --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > Yeah, that Ed Roman is a piece of work. The Mosrites he sells
> aren't the same as the ones Chris and I have. They're made by a
> different Japanese company and they don't have the Ventures logo.
I
> don't know what other differences there are. I'm guessing they're
> good quality but you're right, those prices are ridiculous. The
> Excellents were also expensive but not ridiculous. They sold for
> around a grand, the next model up was around 1400- and the
sidejack
> was just under 3G's.
> > -Marty
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: supertwangreverb
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:29 AM
> > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
> >
> >
> >
> > Someone's got some spare cash laying around :)
> > Our old obese drummer had a excellent 65 and it sounded
great.
> > Couldn't put heavy strings on it tho, and man, the neck was so
> > thin! I thought if I could play a Jaguar I'd be able to play
> > anything (What a good debate that would be, "Jaguar vs
Mosrite's
> > playability")
> >
> > I was in Vegas last May and had to stop off at Ed Romans, what
a
> fat
> > idiot, anyway he had the sidejacks, and the regular Mosrite
> models.
> > I think the side jack was around 4 grand and the regular was
> > $2500.00. No Japanese reissue is worth that.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> > <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > > I also have an Excellent as well as the Super Custom '65,
> the '63
> > Royal (sidejack), an original '66 Ventures Model XII, and
an '89
> > Tone Chamber. The Tone Chamber can be seen at
> > and the excellent with
> Jon's
> > original Mosrite Ventures Model Bass at
> > .
> > > -Marty
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Chris
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:35 AM
> > > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We both have the same model. The '65 Excellent. We
bought
> them
> > > from Michael at My Rare Guitars.com thinking it would be
> cool
> > to
> > > have matching Mosrites. neither of us can play them very
> well,
> > and
> > > sometimes they just don't have the sound you want for the
> > material
> > > we're doing. someday we might bust them out for a
ventures
> > > tribute. They sure are cool looking guitars.
> > > I noticed Marty plays Mosrites - what models, year, etc?
> > >
> > > --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> > > <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > > > I was also admiring the Mosrites on your site, Chris. It
> looks
> > as
> > > if the other guitarist has an original '65 or is that the
> > Japanese
> > > copy they call the Custom '65? Is yours the "Excellent"?
All
> of
> > > those Japanese models really were very well made. It's a
> shame
> > they
> > > had their hand slapped and had to stop production. I also
> agree
> > > about the difficult necks, but they have a great tone.
> > > > -Marty
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Chris
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 10:05 PM
> > > > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Mosrites, was Re: Fender
Jaguar
> > > Baritone/Bass VI finished
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In , Brian Neal
> > <brian@s...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Chris,
> > > > >
> > > > > Nice job on the website, BTW.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Brian - I't's getting better all the time.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just wanted to ask a follow up question, I see you
> have a
> > > Mosrite
> > > > also.
> > > > > Is it an original or a copy (if so what kind)? How
> does it
> > > compare
> > > > to
> > > > > your Jag & Jazzmaster?
> > > >
> > > > The Mosrite is a japanese reissue. It
says "Mosrite
> of
> > > > California" and has the Ventures logo on the
headstock.
> > It's
> > > really
> > > > a well built guitar, and has that Mosrite sound.
It's
> hard
> > to
> > > > play. Skinny neck, tight string spacing. As I improve
> as a
> > > guitar
> > > > player, I can finally struggle through a few songs
with
> it,
> > but
> > > i
> > > > really have to concentrate. jags and JM's are much
> > freindlier
> > > to
> > > > play I think.
> > > >
> > > > Chris
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Yeah, I suspect that's Tim Wilson, Don's son who is behind the stopping of the
sale of the Japanese gray market Ventures models on Ebay. He's doing it 'cause
he wants the Wilson Bros models to be the exclusive Ventures models.
There is argument as to whether Semie actually put Ventures logos on his '80's
Mosrites. He wanted to and advertised that way initially but the Ventures put
the nix on it. I have one of the '80's models but the logo was put on in later
years. I don't know how myrareguitars is getting away with the sale of gray
market Ventures models. The Ventures were successful in stopping the practice in
Japan.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: trainwayne
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 3:32 PM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
I've listed a couple of "Excellent 65" models on ebay and been sent
threatening letters from The Ventures law firm and had the auctions
pulled off by ebay. I was told that ANYTHING with The Ventures logo
except original Mosrites built in the '60s are illegal.....however,
when I asked the law firm for a list of legitimate serial numbers
for the Ventures models, they said that they had them but wouldn't
release them to anyone. I currently have one of the Mosrites that E.
Roman sells.....funny how as soon as he became the "exclusive"
distributor of those models the price jumped $600. Mike at
myrareguitars.com still has pictures of Mosrites for sale that he
says were built by Semie Mosely in the 80s that have the Ventures
logo on them......perhaps his being located in Canada keeps The
Ventures Police from bothering him? --- In, "supertwangreverb"
<supertwangreverb@y...> wrote:
>
> Yes, the Excellent 65 I played was REALLY close to what Ed Roman
is
> selling these days. I hear Nokie Edwards was rather instrumental
in
> having the Excellent 65s pulled, and has had his people pester
some
> ebay sellers. I hear he refers to them, in his accent,
> as "contraband!"
>
> Bill
>
> --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > Yeah, that Ed Roman is a piece of work. The Mosrites he sells
> aren't the same as the ones Chris and I have. They're made by a
> different Japanese company and they don't have the Ventures logo.
I
> don't know what other differences there are. I'm guessing they're
> good quality but you're right, those prices are ridiculous. The
> Excellents were also expensive but not ridiculous. They sold for
> around a grand, the next model up was around 1400- and the
sidejack
> was just under 3G's.
> > -Marty
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: supertwangreverb
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:29 AM
> > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
> >
> >
> >
> > Someone's got some spare cash laying around :)
> > Our old obese drummer had a excellent 65 and it sounded
great.
> > Couldn't put heavy strings on it tho, and man, the neck was so
> > thin! I thought if I could play a Jaguar I'd be able to play
> > anything (What a good debate that would be, "Jaguar vs
Mosrite's
> > playability")
> >
> > I was in Vegas last May and had to stop off at Ed Romans, what
a
> fat
> > idiot, anyway he had the sidejacks, and the regular Mosrite
> models.
> > I think the side jack was around 4 grand and the regular was
> > $2500.00. No Japanese reissue is worth that.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> > <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > > I also have an Excellent as well as the Super Custom '65,
> the '63
> > Royal (sidejack), an original '66 Ventures Model XII, and
an '89
> > Tone Chamber. The Tone Chamber can be seen at
> > and the excellent with
> Jon's
> > original Mosrite Ventures Model Bass at
> > .
> > > -Marty
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Chris
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:35 AM
> > > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We both have the same model. The '65 Excellent. We
bought
> them
> > > from Michael at My Rare Guitars.com thinking it would be
> cool
> > to
> > > have matching Mosrites. neither of us can play them very
> well,
> > and
> > > sometimes they just don't have the sound you want for the
> > material
> > > we're doing. someday we might bust them out for a
ventures
> > > tribute. They sure are cool looking guitars.
> > > I noticed Marty plays Mosrites - what models, year, etc?
> > >
> > > --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> > > <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > > > I was also admiring the Mosrites on your site, Chris. It
> looks
> > as
> > > if the other guitarist has an original '65 or is that the
> > Japanese
> > > copy they call the Custom '65? Is yours the "Excellent"?
All
> of
> > > those Japanese models really were very well made. It's a
> shame
> > they
> > > had their hand slapped and had to stop production. I also
> agree
> > > about the difficult necks, but they have a great tone.
> > > > -Marty
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Chris
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 10:05 PM
> > > > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Mosrites, was Re: Fender
Jaguar
> > > Baritone/Bass VI finished
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In , Brian Neal
> > <brian@s...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Chris,
> > > > >
> > > > > Nice job on the website, BTW.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Brian - I't's getting better all the time.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just wanted to ask a follow up question, I see you
> have a
> > > Mosrite
> > > > also.
> > > > > Is it an original or a copy (if so what kind)? How
> does it
> > > compare
> > > > to
> > > > > your Jag & Jazzmaster?
> > > >
> > > > The Mosrite is a japanese reissue. It
says "Mosrite
> of
> > > > California" and has the Ventures logo on the
headstock.
> > It's
> > > really
> > > > a well built guitar, and has that Mosrite sound.
It's
> hard
> > to
> > > > play. Skinny neck, tight string spacing. As I improve
> as a
> > > guitar
> > > > player, I can finally struggle through a few songs
with
> it,
> > but
> > > i
> > > > really have to concentrate. jags and JM's are much
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> > > to
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Then what is the deal with The Hypnotic IV's Mosrites? They are endorsed
by a Japanese company called Fillmore that makes "Mosrite of California"
guitars. Man this Mosrite stuff gives me a headache. I understand
Fillmore is different company altogether than the ones who made the
"Excellent" models. Is that right?
At last April's Sacramento Surf Coasters show I got a good close up look
at Hypno Andy's Fillmore Mosrite. It looked really nice. Shigeo really
was digging it too as he played it during the jam session and was asking
Andy lots of questions about it.
BN
Marty Tippens wrote:
>Yeah, I suspect that's Tim Wilson, Don's son who is behind the stopping of the
sale of the Japanese gray market Ventures models on Ebay. He's doing it 'cause
he wants the Wilson Bros models to be the exclusive Ventures models.
>
>There is argument as to whether Semie actually put Ventures logos on his '80's
Mosrites. He wanted to and advertised that way initially but the Ventures put
the nix on it. I have one of the '80's models but the logo was put on in later
years. I don't know how myrareguitars is getting away with the sale of gray
market Ventures models. The Ventures were successful in stopping the practice in
Japan.
>
>
It's not Nokie that stopped the Excellent, he doesn't own the rights to the
Ventures name. It's Don Wilson and his son Tim wantin' to make their Wilson Bros
the only current Ventures models. As an interesting note, Nokie, while still
playing with the Ventures, has never been a full partner in the Ventures . Even
in the '60's he was a hired hand. That was his choice.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: supertwangreverb
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 2:38 PM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
Yes, the Excellent 65 I played was REALLY close to what Ed Roman is
selling these days. I hear Nokie Edwards was rather instrumental in
having the Excellent 65s pulled, and has had his people pester some
ebay sellers. I hear he refers to them, in his accent,
as "contraband!"
Bill
--- In , "Marty Tippens"
<mctippens@e...> wrote:
> Yeah, that Ed Roman is a piece of work. The Mosrites he sells
aren't the same as the ones Chris and I have. They're made by a
different Japanese company and they don't have the Ventures logo. I
don't know what other differences there are. I'm guessing they're
good quality but you're right, those prices are ridiculous. The
Excellents were also expensive but not ridiculous. They sold for
around a grand, the next model up was around 1400- and the sidejack
was just under 3G's.
> -Marty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: supertwangreverb
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:29 AM
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
>
>
>
> Someone's got some spare cash laying around :)
> Our old obese drummer had a excellent 65 and it sounded great.
> Couldn't put heavy strings on it tho, and man, the neck was so
> thin! I thought if I could play a Jaguar I'd be able to play
> anything (What a good debate that would be, "Jaguar vs Mosrite's
> playability")
>
> I was in Vegas last May and had to stop off at Ed Romans, what a
fat
> idiot, anyway he had the sidejacks, and the regular Mosrite
models.
> I think the side jack was around 4 grand and the regular was
> $2500.00. No Japanese reissue is worth that.
>
> Bill
>
> --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > I also have an Excellent as well as the Super Custom '65,
the '63
> Royal (sidejack), an original '66 Ventures Model XII, and an '89
> Tone Chamber. The Tone Chamber can be seen at
> and the excellent with
Jon's
> original Mosrite Ventures Model Bass at
> .
> > -Marty
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Chris
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:35 AM
> > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
> >
> >
> >
> > We both have the same model. The '65 Excellent. We bought
them
> > from Michael at My Rare Guitars.com thinking it would be
cool
> to
> > have matching Mosrites. neither of us can play them very
well,
> and
> > sometimes they just don't have the sound you want for the
> material
> > we're doing. someday we might bust them out for a ventures
> > tribute. They sure are cool looking guitars.
> > I noticed Marty plays Mosrites - what models, year, etc?
> >
> > --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> > <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > > I was also admiring the Mosrites on your site, Chris. It
looks
> as
> > if the other guitarist has an original '65 or is that the
> Japanese
> > copy they call the Custom '65? Is yours the "Excellent"? All
of
> > those Japanese models really were very well made. It's a
shame
> they
> > had their hand slapped and had to stop production. I also
agree
> > about the difficult necks, but they have a great tone.
> > > -Marty
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Chris
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 10:05 PM
> > > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Mosrites, was Re: Fender Jaguar
> > Baritone/Bass VI finished
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In , Brian Neal
> <brian@s...>
> > wrote:
> > > > Chris,
> > > >
> > > > Nice job on the website, BTW.
> > >
> > > Thanks Brian - I't's getting better all the time.
> > > >
> > > > Just wanted to ask a follow up question, I see you
have a
> > Mosrite
> > > also.
> > > > Is it an original or a copy (if so what kind)? How
does it
> > compare
> > > to
> > > > your Jag & Jazzmaster?
> > >
> > > The Mosrite is a japanese reissue. It says "Mosrite
of
> > > California" and has the Ventures logo on the headstock.
> It's
> > really
> > > a well built guitar, and has that Mosrite sound. It's
hard
> to
> > > play. Skinny neck, tight string spacing. As I improve
as a
> > guitar
> > > player, I can finally struggle through a few songs with
it,
> but
> > i
> > > really have to concentrate. jags and JM's are much
> freindlier
> > to
> > > play I think.
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Yeah well, whatever. I still think it's funny that Nokie would refer
to them as contraband. There's something about Nokie that cracks me up.
--- In , "Marty Tippens" <mctippens@e...>
wrote:
> It's not Nokie that stopped the Excellent, he doesn't own the rights
to the Ventures name. It's Don Wilson and his son Tim wantin' to make
their Wilson Bros the only current Ventures models. As an interesting
note, Nokie, while still playing with the Ventures, has never been a
full partner in the Ventures . Even in the '60's he was a hired hand.
That was his choice.
> -Marty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: supertwangreverb
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 2:38 PM
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
>
>
>
> Yes, the Excellent 65 I played was REALLY close to what Ed Roman is
> selling these days. I hear Nokie Edwards was rather instrumental in
> having the Excellent 65s pulled, and has had his people pester some
> ebay sellers. I hear he refers to them, in his accent,
> as "contraband!"
>
> Bill
>
> --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > Yeah, that Ed Roman is a piece of work. The Mosrites he sells
> aren't the same as the ones Chris and I have. They're made by a
> different Japanese company and they don't have the Ventures logo. I
> don't know what other differences there are. I'm guessing they're
> good quality but you're right, those prices are ridiculous. The
> Excellents were also expensive but not ridiculous. They sold for
> around a grand, the next model up was around 1400- and the sidejack
> was just under 3G's.
> > -Marty
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: supertwangreverb
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:29 AM
> > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
> >
> >
> >
> > Someone's got some spare cash laying around :)
> > Our old obese drummer had a excellent 65 and it sounded great.
> > Couldn't put heavy strings on it tho, and man, the neck was so
> > thin! I thought if I could play a Jaguar I'd be able to play
> > anything (What a good debate that would be, "Jaguar vs Mosrite's
> > playability")
> >
> > I was in Vegas last May and had to stop off at Ed Romans, what a
> fat
> > idiot, anyway he had the sidejacks, and the regular Mosrite
> models.
> > I think the side jack was around 4 grand and the regular was
> > $2500.00. No Japanese reissue is worth that.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> > <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > > I also have an Excellent as well as the Super Custom '65,
> the '63
> > Royal (sidejack), an original '66 Ventures Model XII, and an '89
> > Tone Chamber. The Tone Chamber can be seen at
> > and the excellent with
> Jon's
> > original Mosrite Ventures Model Bass at
> > .
> > > -Marty
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Chris
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:35 AM
> > > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We both have the same model. The '65 Excellent. We bought
> them
> > > from Michael at My Rare Guitars.com thinking it would be
> cool
> > to
> > > have matching Mosrites. neither of us can play them very
> well,
> > and
> > > sometimes they just don't have the sound you want for the
> > material
> > > we're doing. someday we might bust them out for a ventures
> > > tribute. They sure are cool looking guitars.
> > > I noticed Marty plays Mosrites - what models, year, etc?
> > >
> > > --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> > > <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > > > I was also admiring the Mosrites on your site, Chris. It
> looks
> > as
> > > if the other guitarist has an original '65 or is that the
> > Japanese
> > > copy they call the Custom '65? Is yours the "Excellent"? All
> of
> > > those Japanese models really were very well made. It's a
> shame
> > they
> > > had their hand slapped and had to stop production. I also
> agree
> > > about the difficult necks, but they have a great tone.
> > > > -Marty
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Chris
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 10:05 PM
> > > > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Mosrites, was Re: Fender Jaguar
> > > Baritone/Bass VI finished
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In , Brian Neal
> > <brian@s...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Chris,
> > > > >
> > > > > Nice job on the website, BTW.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Brian - I't's getting better all the time.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just wanted to ask a follow up question, I see you
> have a
> > > Mosrite
> > > > also.
> > > > > Is it an original or a copy (if so what kind)? How
> does it
> > > compare
> > > > to
> > > > > your Jag & Jazzmaster?
> > > >
> > > > The Mosrite is a japanese reissue. It says "Mosrite
> of
> > > > California" and has the Ventures logo on the headstock.
> > It's
> > > really
> > > > a well built guitar, and has that Mosrite sound. It's
> hard
> > to
> > > > play. Skinny neck, tight string spacing. As I improve
> as a
> > > guitar
> > > > player, I can finally struggle through a few songs with
> it,
> > but
> > > i
> > > > really have to concentrate. jags and JM's are much
> > freindlier
> > > to
> > > > play I think.
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<supertwangreverb@y...> wrote:
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> There's something about Nokie that cracks me up.
It's the fact that his name is Nokie.... It has to effect your
outlook on life.
I heard he was wounded in the war, and can only stand for short
periods, even in the 60's. On the cover of the Ventures Live in
japan cd, you can see his stool. It has to be a trip seeing
someone tear it up like he does on that disc sitting down!!
hey Marty, any ideas on finding a heavier spring for the trem on
the Mosrite? I used some washer under mine, but I'd still like a
little heavier strings on it.
Chris
>
> --- In , "Marty Tippens"
<mctippens@e...>
> wrote:
> > It's not Nokie that stopped the Excellent, he doesn't own the
rights
> to the Ventures name. It's Don Wilson and his son Tim wantin' to
make
> their Wilson Bros the only current Ventures models. As an
interesting
> note, Nokie, while still playing with the Ventures, has never been
a
> full partner in the Ventures . Even in the '60's he was a hired
hand.
> That was his choice.
> > -Marty
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: supertwangreverb
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 2:38 PM
> > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, the Excellent 65 I played was REALLY close to what Ed
Roman is
> > selling these days. I hear Nokie Edwards was rather
instrumental in
> > having the Excellent 65s pulled, and has had his people pester
some
> > ebay sellers. I hear he refers to them, in his accent,
> > as "contraband!"
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> > <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > > Yeah, that Ed Roman is a piece of work. The Mosrites he
sells
> > aren't the same as the ones Chris and I have. They're made by
a
> > different Japanese company and they don't have the Ventures
logo. I
> > don't know what other differences there are. I'm guessing
they're
> > good quality but you're right, those prices are ridiculous.
The
> > Excellents were also expensive but not ridiculous. They sold
for
> > around a grand, the next model up was around 1400- and the
sidejack
> > was just under 3G's.
> > > -Marty
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: supertwangreverb
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:29 AM
> > > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Someone's got some spare cash laying around :)
> > > Our old obese drummer had a excellent 65 and it sounded
great.
> > > Couldn't put heavy strings on it tho, and man, the neck
was so
> > > thin! I thought if I could play a Jaguar I'd be able to
play
> > > anything (What a good debate that would be, "Jaguar vs
Mosrite's
> > > playability")
> > >
> > > I was in Vegas last May and had to stop off at Ed Romans,
what a
> > fat
> > > idiot, anyway he had the sidejacks, and the regular
Mosrite
> > models.
> > > I think the side jack was around 4 grand and the regular
was
> > > $2500.00. No Japanese reissue is worth that.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> > > <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > > > I also have an Excellent as well as the Super
Custom '65,
> > the '63
> > > Royal (sidejack), an original '66 Ventures Model XII, and
an '89
> > > Tone Chamber. The Tone Chamber can be seen at
> > > and the excellent
with
> > Jon's
> > > original Mosrite Ventures Model Bass at
> > > .
> > > > -Marty
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Chris
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:35 AM
> > > > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We both have the same model. The '65 Excellent. We
bought
> > them
> > > > from Michael at My Rare Guitars.com thinking it would
be
> > cool
> > > to
> > > > have matching Mosrites. neither of us can play them
very
> > well,
> > > and
> > > > sometimes they just don't have the sound you want for
the
> > > material
> > > > we're doing. someday we might bust them out for a
ventures
> > > > tribute. They sure are cool looking guitars.
> > > > I noticed Marty plays Mosrites - what models, year,
etc?
> > > >
> > > > --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> > > > <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > > > > I was also admiring the Mosrites on your site,
Chris. It
> > looks
> > > as
> > > > if the other guitarist has an original '65 or is that
the
> > > Japanese
> > > > copy they call the Custom '65? Is yours
the "Excellent"? All
> > of
> > > > those Japanese models really were very well made. It's
a
> > shame
> > > they
> > > > had their hand slapped and had to stop production. I
also
> > agree
> > > > about the difficult necks, but they have a great tone.
> > > > > -Marty
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Chris
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 10:05 PM
> > > > > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Mosrites, was Re: Fender
Jaguar
> > > > Baritone/Bass VI finished
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In , Brian Neal
> > > <brian@s...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Chris,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nice job on the website, BTW.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Brian - I't's getting better all the time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just wanted to ask a follow up question, I see
you
> > have a
> > > > Mosrite
> > > > > also.
> > > > > > Is it an original or a copy (if so what kind)?
How
> > does it
> > > > compare
> > > > > to
> > > > > > your Jag & Jazzmaster?
> > > > >
> > > > > The Mosrite is a japanese reissue. It
says "Mosrite
> > of
> > > > > California" and has the Ventures logo on the
headstock.
> > > It's
> > > > really
> > > > > a well built guitar, and has that Mosrite sound.
It's
> > hard
> > > to
> > > > > play. Skinny neck, tight string spacing. As I
improve
> > as a
> > > > guitar
> > > > > player, I can finally struggle through a few songs
with
> > it,
> > > but
> > > > i
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much
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Ok, I just suspect the story got related wrong from someone confusing Don with
Nokie. This is not to say that Nokie is not a crack up, but I don't really know.
Nokie now has his own Mosrite knock-off brand called the "Hitchhiker". It's
guldern ugly if ya ask me. Many Nokie fanatics are buyin' 'em.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: supertwangreverb
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 5:34 PM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
Yeah well, whatever. I still think it's funny that Nokie would refer
to them as contraband. There's something about Nokie that cracks me up.
--- In , "Marty Tippens" <mctippens@e...>
wrote:
> It's not Nokie that stopped the Excellent, he doesn't own the rights
to the Ventures name. It's Don Wilson and his son Tim wantin' to make
their Wilson Bros the only current Ventures models. As an interesting
note, Nokie, while still playing with the Ventures, has never been a
full partner in the Ventures . Even in the '60's he was a hired hand.
That was his choice.
> -Marty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: supertwangreverb
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 2:38 PM
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
>
>
>
> Yes, the Excellent 65 I played was REALLY close to what Ed Roman is
> selling these days. I hear Nokie Edwards was rather instrumental in
> having the Excellent 65s pulled, and has had his people pester some
> ebay sellers. I hear he refers to them, in his accent,
> as "contraband!"
>
> Bill
>
> --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > Yeah, that Ed Roman is a piece of work. The Mosrites he sells
> aren't the same as the ones Chris and I have. They're made by a
> different Japanese company and they don't have the Ventures logo. I
> don't know what other differences there are. I'm guessing they're
> good quality but you're right, those prices are ridiculous. The
> Excellents were also expensive but not ridiculous. They sold for
> around a grand, the next model up was around 1400- and the sidejack
> was just under 3G's.
> > -Marty
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: supertwangreverb
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:29 AM
> > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
> >
> >
> >
> > Someone's got some spare cash laying around :)
> > Our old obese drummer had a excellent 65 and it sounded great.
> > Couldn't put heavy strings on it tho, and man, the neck was so
> > thin! I thought if I could play a Jaguar I'd be able to play
> > anything (What a good debate that would be, "Jaguar vs Mosrite's
> > playability")
> >
> > I was in Vegas last May and had to stop off at Ed Romans, what a
> fat
> > idiot, anyway he had the sidejacks, and the regular Mosrite
> models.
> > I think the side jack was around 4 grand and the regular was
> > $2500.00. No Japanese reissue is worth that.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> > <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > > I also have an Excellent as well as the Super Custom '65,
> the '63
> > Royal (sidejack), an original '66 Ventures Model XII, and an '89
> > Tone Chamber. The Tone Chamber can be seen at
> > and the excellent with
> Jon's
> > original Mosrite Ventures Model Bass at
> > .
> > > -Marty
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Chris
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:35 AM
> > > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We both have the same model. The '65 Excellent. We bought
> them
> > > from Michael at My Rare Guitars.com thinking it would be
> cool
> > to
> > > have matching Mosrites. neither of us can play them very
> well,
> > and
> > > sometimes they just don't have the sound you want for the
> > material
> > > we're doing. someday we might bust them out for a ventures
> > > tribute. They sure are cool looking guitars.
> > > I noticed Marty plays Mosrites - what models, year, etc?
> > >
> > > --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> > > <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > > > I was also admiring the Mosrites on your site, Chris. It
> looks
> > as
> > > if the other guitarist has an original '65 or is that the
> > Japanese
> > > copy they call the Custom '65? Is yours the "Excellent"? All
> of
> > > those Japanese models really were very well made. It's a
> shame
> > they
> > > had their hand slapped and had to stop production. I also
> agree
> > > about the difficult necks, but they have a great tone.
> > > > -Marty
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Chris
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 10:05 PM
> > > > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Mosrites, was Re: Fender Jaguar
> > > Baritone/Bass VI finished
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In , Brian Neal
> > <brian@s...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Chris,
> > > > >
> > > > > Nice job on the website, BTW.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Brian - I't's getting better all the time.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just wanted to ask a follow up question, I see you
> have a
> > > Mosrite
> > > > also.
> > > > > Is it an original or a copy (if so what kind)? How
> does it
> > > compare
> > > > to
> > > > > your Jag & Jazzmaster?
> > > >
> > > > The Mosrite is a japanese reissue. It says "Mosrite
> of
> > > > California" and has the Ventures logo on the headstock.
> > It's
> > > really
> > > > a well built guitar, and has that Mosrite sound. It's
> hard
> > to
> > > > play. Skinny neck, tight string spacing. As I improve
> as a
> > > guitar
> > > > player, I can finally struggle through a few songs with
> it,
> > but
> > > i
> > > > really have to concentrate. jags and JM's are much
> > freindlier
> > > to
> > > > play I think.
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Yes, Fillmore is not the same company that made the Excellent. Fillmore makes Ed
Roman's Mosrites. www.tymguitars.com has more details for those who wanna
know.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Neal
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
Then what is the deal with The Hypnotic IV's Mosrites? They are endorsed
by a Japanese company called Fillmore that makes "Mosrite of California"
guitars. Man this Mosrite stuff gives me a headache. I understand
Fillmore is different company altogether than the ones who made the
"Excellent" models. Is that right?
At last April's Sacramento Surf Coasters show I got a good close up look
at Hypno Andy's Fillmore Mosrite. It looked really nice. Shigeo really
was digging it too as he played it during the jam session and was asking
Andy lots of questions about it.
BN
Marty Tippens wrote:
>Yeah, I suspect that's Tim Wilson, Don's son who is behind the stopping of
the sale of the Japanese gray market Ventures models on Ebay. He's doing it
'cause he wants the Wilson Bros models to be the exclusive Ventures models.
>
>There is argument as to whether Semie actually put Ventures logos on his
'80's Mosrites. He wanted to and advertised that way initially but the Ventures
put the nix on it. I have one of the '80's models but the logo was put on in
later years. I don't know how myrareguitars is getting away with the sale of
gray market Ventures models. The Ventures were successful in stopping the
practice in Japan.
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Ebay and possibly allparts.com for the heavier Mosrite spring, Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:38 PM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
--- In , "supertwangreverb"
<supertwangreverb@y...> wrote:
>
> There's something about Nokie that cracks me up.
It's the fact that his name is Nokie.... It has to effect your
outlook on life.
I heard he was wounded in the war, and can only stand for short
periods, even in the 60's. On the cover of the Ventures Live in
japan cd, you can see his stool. It has to be a trip seeing
someone tear it up like he does on that disc sitting down!!
hey Marty, any ideas on finding a heavier spring for the trem on
the Mosrite? I used some washer under mine, but I'd still like a
little heavier strings on it.
Chris
>
> --- In , "Marty Tippens"
<mctippens@e...>
> wrote:
> > It's not Nokie that stopped the Excellent, he doesn't own the
rights
> to the Ventures name. It's Don Wilson and his son Tim wantin' to
make
> their Wilson Bros the only current Ventures models. As an
interesting
> note, Nokie, while still playing with the Ventures, has never been
a
> full partner in the Ventures . Even in the '60's he was a hired
hand.
> That was his choice.
> > -Marty
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: supertwangreverb
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 2:38 PM
> > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, the Excellent 65 I played was REALLY close to what Ed
Roman is
> > selling these days. I hear Nokie Edwards was rather
instrumental in
> > having the Excellent 65s pulled, and has had his people pester
some
> > ebay sellers. I hear he refers to them, in his accent,
> > as "contraband!"
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> > <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > > Yeah, that Ed Roman is a piece of work. The Mosrites he
sells
> > aren't the same as the ones Chris and I have. They're made by
a
> > different Japanese company and they don't have the Ventures
logo. I
> > don't know what other differences there are. I'm guessing
they're
> > good quality but you're right, those prices are ridiculous.
The
> > Excellents were also expensive but not ridiculous. They sold
for
> > around a grand, the next model up was around 1400- and the
sidejack
> > was just under 3G's.
> > > -Marty
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: supertwangreverb
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:29 AM
> > > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Someone's got some spare cash laying around :)
> > > Our old obese drummer had a excellent 65 and it sounded
great.
> > > Couldn't put heavy strings on it tho, and man, the neck
was so
> > > thin! I thought if I could play a Jaguar I'd be able to
play
> > > anything (What a good debate that would be, "Jaguar vs
Mosrite's
> > > playability")
> > >
> > > I was in Vegas last May and had to stop off at Ed Romans,
what a
> > fat
> > > idiot, anyway he had the sidejacks, and the regular
Mosrite
> > models.
> > > I think the side jack was around 4 grand and the regular
was
> > > $2500.00. No Japanese reissue is worth that.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> > > <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > > > I also have an Excellent as well as the Super
Custom '65,
> > the '63
> > > Royal (sidejack), an original '66 Ventures Model XII, and
an '89
> > > Tone Chamber. The Tone Chamber can be seen at
> > > and the excellent
with
> > Jon's
> > > original Mosrite Ventures Model Bass at
> > > .
> > > > -Marty
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Chris
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:35 AM
> > > > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We both have the same model. The '65 Excellent. We
bought
> > them
> > > > from Michael at My Rare Guitars.com thinking it would
be
> > cool
> > > to
> > > > have matching Mosrites. neither of us can play them
very
> > well,
> > > and
> > > > sometimes they just don't have the sound you want for
the
> > > material
> > > > we're doing. someday we might bust them out for a
ventures
> > > > tribute. They sure are cool looking guitars.
> > > > I noticed Marty plays Mosrites - what models, year,
etc?
> > > >
> > > > --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> > > > <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > > > > I was also admiring the Mosrites on your site,
Chris. It
> > looks
> > > as
> > > > if the other guitarist has an original '65 or is that
the
> > > Japanese
> > > > copy they call the Custom '65? Is yours
the "Excellent"? All
> > of
> > > > those Japanese models really were very well made. It's
a
> > shame
> > > they
> > > > had their hand slapped and had to stop production. I
also
> > agree
> > > > about the difficult necks, but they have a great tone.
> > > > > -Marty
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Chris
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 10:05 PM
> > > > > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Mosrites, was Re: Fender
Jaguar
> > > > Baritone/Bass VI finished
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In , Brian Neal
> > > <brian@s...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Chris,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nice job on the website, BTW.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Brian - I't's getting better all the time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just wanted to ask a follow up question, I see
you
> > have a
> > > > Mosrite
> > > > > also.
> > > > > > Is it an original or a copy (if so what kind)?
How
> > does it
> > > > compare
> > > > > to
> > > > > > your Jag & Jazzmaster?
> > > > >
> > > > > The Mosrite is a japanese reissue. It
says "Mosrite
> > of
> > > > > California" and has the Ventures logo on the
headstock.
> > > It's
> > > > really
> > > > > a well built guitar, and has that Mosrite sound.
It's
> > hard
> > > to
> > > > > play. Skinny neck, tight string spacing. As I
improve
> > as a
> > > > guitar
> > > > > player, I can finally struggle through a few songs
with
> > it,
> > > but
> > > > i
> > > > > really have to concentrate. jags and JM's are
much
> > > freindlier
> > > > to
> > > > > play I think.
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris
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I have a question for you Mosrite players. Are the older Mostrites good or what?
About six years ago a funky clothing store in town had a bunch of vintage gear
in the
back. They had what appeared to be three vintage Mostrites for about $700 to
$1000.
Don't remember the models, but they played pretty bad. Really thin frets, thin
necks,
didn't feel very well made. I must be missing something here, please help the
uninformed...
I have a Fillmore re-issue Mosrite and an original '66......I think
Mosrites are a bit of an aquired taste. The small necks and low
frets do take some getting used to, but once you get aquainted with
them, picking up just about any other make of guitar will feel "big"
in your hands. A good comparison would be a Rickenbacker 12 string
to just about any other 12 string made.....Rickenbacker necks are
also small and a lot of people just can't get used to them, but once
you've gained a comfort level with them, nothing compares to the
ease of playing and the sound they have. I sure wish I could walk
into a "funky clothing store" and find 3 vintage Mosrites for sale
for $700-$1000 each....I'd RUN to the bank! --- In, "darklsurf" <dcordes@s...> wrote:
>
> I have a question for you Mosrite players. Are the older Mostrites
good or what?
> About six years ago a funky clothing store in town had a bunch of
vintage gear in the
> back. They had what appeared to be three vintage Mostrites for
about $700 to $1000.
> Don't remember the models, but they played pretty bad. Really thin
frets, thin necks,
> didn't feel very well made. I must be missing something here,
please help the
> uninformed...
Lets see, I don't think your missing anything. Every Mosrite I've
played has been like that. If you could bend the strings on
those "frets" you'd get stuck on the closest string because they are
so damn close together!(Nokie managed) Sorry to all the Mosrite
lovers out there, but I think for the most part those guitars really
are a mistake, I wouldn't pay more than 500 bucks for one. Some of
the vintage ones are really trashy. At the Chicago Music Exchange
(the rape exchange) they have tons of vintage ones, and he asks 6-7
grand for most of them, compared to his 2-3 grand Jaguars they are
in terrible physical and playability shape. I'd still take one at a
decent price just because they sound so GOOD!
Bill
--- In , "darklsurf" <dcordes@s...>
wrote:
>
> I have a question for you Mosrite players. Are the older Mostrites
good or what?
> About six years ago a funky clothing store in town had a bunch of
vintage gear in the
> back. They had what appeared to be three vintage Mostrites for
about $700 to $1000.
> Don't remember the models, but they played pretty bad. Really thin
frets, thin necks,
> didn't feel very well made. I must be missing something here,
please help the
> uninformed...
Isn't there a reasonble Mosrite facsmile that doesn't
have the issues that Mosrites have? My Yamaha SGV
neck is a bit tightly spaced for my tastes and makes
an MIJ Jag neck seem really roomy. Are the necks on
the Wilson Bros. guitars like that? I find that the
longer I play the more I like chunkier necks.
Richard
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I'd still take one at a decent price just because
they sound so GOOD!
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Richard,
If you like a slightly chunkier neck, the Wilson VM-65 (which I use
along with the VM-10 Strat-Style model) is a pretty good sub for an
original Mosrite.
Regards,
Les Fradkin
On Feb 23, 2005, at 9:11 AM, Richard wrote:
>
> Isn't there a reasonble Mosrite facsmile that doesn't
> have the issues that Mosrites have? My Yamaha SGV
> neck is a bit tightly spaced for my tastes and makes
> an MIJ Jag neck seem really roomy. Are the necks on
> the Wilson Bros. guitars like that? I find that the
> longer I play the more I like chunkier necks.
>
> Richard
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> they sound so GOOD!
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Too many Mosrite facsimiles use PAF 90 style pick-ups or humbuckers neither of
which acheive the Mosrite sound. Maybe a Wilson Bros is the way to go and then
swap out the pick-ups for Mosrite pick-ups found on Ebay. The Japanese copy
Mosrite pick-ups have the right sound and go for much less.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
Isn't there a reasonble Mosrite facsmile that doesn't
have the issues that Mosrites have? My Yamaha SGV
neck is a bit tightly spaced for my tastes and makes
an MIJ Jag neck seem really roomy. Are the necks on
the Wilson Bros. guitars like that? I find that the
longer I play the more I like chunkier necks.
Richard
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I am a Mosrite lover yet I agree with a lot of what Bill says. Purdy much every
"feature" of the guitar is wrong. The ultra low frets hinder string bending, I
can't hang with the too-thin neck for very long before I crave the luxary width
of a Fender. The cutaway is backwards with less depth for higher strings than
for lower strings. But they have a great sound and I don't agree that they were
poorly made. They were well made but poorly designed.
Buying a vintage one can not be done on line. You really need to play the
vintage one before you buy it. The main problem that I have come against on
vintage Mosrites is getting the action right and string buzz. I have yet to find
a vintage Mosrite that didn't have a very difficult to access truss rod. And
with the low frets, many vintage ones need a fret job which for me, takes away
from the vintage value.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: supertwangreverb
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:54 AM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
Lets see, I don't think your missing anything. Every Mosrite I've
played has been like that. If you could bend the strings on
those "frets" you'd get stuck on the closest string because they are
so damn close together!(Nokie managed) Sorry to all the Mosrite
lovers out there, but I think for the most part those guitars really
are a mistake, I wouldn't pay more than 500 bucks for one. Some of
the vintage ones are really trashy. At the Chicago Music Exchange
(the rape exchange) they have tons of vintage ones, and he asks 6-7
grand for most of them, compared to his 2-3 grand Jaguars they are
in terrible physical and playability shape. I'd still take one at a
decent price just because they sound so GOOD!
Bill
--- In , "darklsurf" <dcordes@s...>
wrote:
>
> I have a question for you Mosrite players. Are the older Mostrites
good or what?
> About six years ago a funky clothing store in town had a bunch of
vintage gear in the
> back. They had what appeared to be three vintage Mostrites for
about $700 to $1000.
> Don't remember the models, but they played pretty bad. Really thin
frets, thin necks,
> didn't feel very well made. I must be missing something here,
please help the
> uninformed...
.
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Yeah, I also had a Rick 6 stringer that had the too-thin neck. I played it purdy
much exclusively for 2 years. Ya get use to it but instead of finding other
Gibsons and Fenders "big" in my hands they felt more like luxary in my hands and
I eventually sold the Rick. I do like my Mosrites for the sound and the funny
backwards looks. .
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: trainwayne
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:40 AM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
I have a Fillmore re-issue Mosrite and an original '66......I think
Mosrites are a bit of an aquired taste. The small necks and low
frets do take some getting used to, but once you get aquainted with
them, picking up just about any other make of guitar will feel "big"
in your hands. A good comparison would be a Rickenbacker 12 string
to just about any other 12 string made.....Rickenbacker necks are
also small and a lot of people just can't get used to them, but once
you've gained a comfort level with them, nothing compares to the
ease of playing and the sound they have. I sure wish I could walk
into a "funky clothing store" and find 3 vintage Mosrites for sale
for $700-$1000 each....I'd RUN to the bank! --- In, "darklsurf" <dcordes@s...> wrote:
>
> I have a question for you Mosrite players. Are the older Mostrites
good or what?
> About six years ago a funky clothing store in town had a bunch of
vintage gear in the
> back. They had what appeared to be three vintage Mostrites for
about $700 to $1000.
> Don't remember the models, but they played pretty bad. Really thin
frets, thin necks,
> didn't feel very well made. I must be missing something here,
please help the
> uninformed...
.
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Mosrites do have thin necks and frets, some like that for speed. Those used to
bigger, spacier fretting do not care for this Mosrite feature.
Like anything else, it all depends on how well the guitar was taken care of. I
have played some vintage Mosrites that were mint, played and sounded like new.
I've also seen my share of train wrecks that have been beat to shit. Not every
Mosrite is the same, they were mostly hand made one at a time so the differences
can vary greatly.
I've also seen the train wrecks sell for much more than you mention. These
guitars would probably be worth more to a collector than functional.
Depending on model/year and condition, vintage Mosrites will sell between $3,500
& $5,000! Maybe more.
Disclaimer, this is not a guarantee, many variables. just my 2 cents
Stewd................................
----- Original Message -----
From: darklsurf
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:44 AM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Mosrites
I have a question for you Mosrite players. Are the older Mostrites good or
what?
About six years ago a funky clothing store in town had a bunch of vintage gear
in the
back. They had what appeared to be three vintage Mostrites for about $700 to
$1000.
Don't remember the models, but they played pretty bad. Really thin frets, thin
necks,
didn't feel very well made. I must be missing something here, please help the
uninformed...
.
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