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Re: DD Q & A, shit that went down on Sat at Jim Pash benefit

Jeff (bigtikidude) - 20 Apr 2005 20:34:09

-Warren,
--If that's your argument, I'm lost.
Isn't Sam still in DD band, and Dusty in it for 4 or 5 years????
Should be ok for them to play it.
Besides, this was a benefit show, supposed to be good times. And
I've been to many all day shows where a song can be played 3 or 4
times.
Jeff(bigtikidude)
In , Warren Binder
<captainspringfield@y...> wrote:
> Isn't Gil Orr from The Chantays? That'd make the Duo-Tones
playing "Pipeline" a bit different than Slacktone doing "Misirlou."
>
> -Warren
>
> Jacob Dobner <jacobdobner@y...> wrote:
>
>
> You speak about artistic integrity and etiquette yet you don't seem
to
> condemn Dick announcing he can't find a good drummer any where in
> front of a drummer he let go, presumably to a disagreement. And You
> need to go apeshit on Paul Johnson and Gil(can anybody fill me in on
> who he is) of the Duo-tones for doing Pipeline on the same bill as
the
> Chantays.
>
> --- In , bruce d wrote:
> >
> > Hey Jeff -
> >
> > I know where you're coming from, and believe me, I know how big a
> Dick Dale can be.
> >
> > I also consider Dave W to be one of the most awesome surf/rock
> guitarists on the scene today, and also deserving of respect and
> admiration!
> >
> > Maybe my sense of artistic etiquette is inordinately well-defined,
> but my feeling was that the Big Dick has already pissed around the
> perimeter of "Misirlou" for enough years and on enough stages that
it
> should be considered his signature song.
> >
> > A--hole or not, in his "Golden Years" (lol!) Dick Dale is still
owed
> a lot by all of us in the Surf Music community. I don't wanna ruffle
> your feathers, but that's how I feel.
> >
> > Best Regards Big Tiki Dude!
> >
> > Bruce D
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In , "Jeff" wrote:
> > >
> > > -Bruce,
> > > Chill out alittle but please.
> > > You weren't there.
> > > I said in my original Post that Dave said they weren't going to
> > > play it. But (WE) were all yelling for it. Dusty shrugged his
> > > shoulders and said what the hell, lets give it to them.
> > > Dick wasn't the headliner, he was only going to be playing with
> > > Jimmy, Bus since Sam and Ron were there, and Jimmy can play
drums
> > > there were some full band songs. But about a half hour of it was
> > > just the Dick and Jimmy show(Boreing). The Chantays and the
Surfaris
> > > were after Dick.
> > > And Paul and Gil (The Duo Tones) Did Pipeline, and the Chantays
> > > were there. I'm sure Paul wasn't being disrespectful of the
Chantays.
> > > As a Matter of fact, the only one who was rude the whole day
was Dick.
> > > The way he went on about nover being able to find/have a good
drummer,
> > > who could listen/take directions/play on the 1's. That was a
major
> > > slap inthe face of Dusty, and I believe he just said it to be
an ass,
> > > and is still mad at him for leaving.
> > > I understand what you are saying,and I totally 100% respect
Dick fo
> > > rall his contributions to surf. But today the guy is 100%
asshole
> > > and a bitter and misserable old geezer.
> > > Ron and Dusty didn't leave for no reason, they couldn't put up
with
> > > him anymore.
> > > I could go on and on, but I've had personal e-mail exchanges
with
> > > Dick, and he's not pleasant or respectful to anyone in the surf
> > > comunity.
> > > Jeff(bigtikidude)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -- In , bruce d
> > > wrote:
> > > > See, the fact is that Dick Dale is Dick Dale. His
idiosyncracies
> > > are legendary and very well-known. He used to tell venues that
he
> > > would not play if another Instro Surf Band was going on before
him -
> > > He didn't want the audience's attention for his music diluted
in any
> > > way at all.
> > > >
> > > > This has never been a secret, and of all people, Dave W
oughta have
> > > been extremely aware of this. I come back to the issue of
respect.
> > > If I heard Dick Dale playing one of our songs, yes, I'd be
totally
> > > flattered and stoked! But for ME to presume to perform Dick's
#1
> > > SIGNATURE SONG, prior to Dick himself getting on stage - SORRY,
I
> > > find that inexcusably unprofessional and disrepectful. Like I
said,
> > > younger folk just ain't got the same level of artistic ethics
these
> > > days!
> > > >
> > > > Bruce D
> > > >
> > > > Brian Neal wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Wow. I guess we think the opposite Bruce.
> > > > > If another band played one of my tunes, (especially a band
of that
> > > > caliber), I'd be flattered, and then I'd probably jump on
stage with
> > > > them. But that's me.......
> > > > > B-B-O
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, maybe, *given* that this is a special benefit for Jim
Pash,
> > > and
> > > > not a regular gig. So in the spirit of things I can see that.
Still
> > > it
> > > > does seem odd that they would play Misirlou...but man,
wouldn't that
> > > > have been something if DD joined Slacktone on stage? WOW.
> > > >
> > > > However, I wasn't there so I won't judge the mood or the
situation
> > > > from 1,000 miles away.
> > > >
> > > > BN
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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