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Re: [SurfGuitar101] Re: DD Q & A, shit that went down on Sat at Jim Pash benefit

Marty Tippens (mctippens) - 19 Apr 2005 20:37:15

Hey Kristena,
You are absolutely right that arrogance doesn't have to be a byproduct of talent
and Slacktone are the shining example. I like to see both of Dick and Slacktone
equally. Arrogance ain't such a bad thing. The Dick Dale show wouldn't be nearly
as fun without that huge ego that pushes him to the front of the stage and gets
the crowd to chear him on. And all that other goofy stuff he does, such as
playing a mean trumpet and bashin' away at the drums is fun as well. I also
like his vocals. You and I both saw a very over-the-top Dick Dale in Glendale
last summer and I recall us both giving him glowing reviews on one of these
lists. He sells surf to the general public like know one else I've seen.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: Kristena Hernandez
To:
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Re: DD Q & A, shit that went down on Sat at Jim
Pash benefit
Yeah, let's just say it would've been good to see Dick perform that 40
years ago, but I rather see Slacktone perform it today. Dave, Dusty,
and Sam prove that arrogance doesn't have to be a byproduct of talent.
-K
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:51:44 -0700 "Marty Tippens"
<> writes:
>
> As back-handed a complement as we might attempt such as Ivan's # 4
> paragraph below and some of the stuff I've said as well as the
> outright slams, it's mistake to exclude the fact that the Dick Dale
> show is a success to the general audience. We hardcore surf fans
> frame the Dick Dale show from a very slanted perspective, and
> however close we try to hold him to the light, the general audiences
> eat it up.
> -Marty
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ipongrac
> To:
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 9:06 PM
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: DD Q & A, shit that went down on Sat
> at Jim Pash benefit
>
>
>
> --- In , "supertwangreverb"
> <supertwangreverb@y...> wrote:
> > Slacktone would NOT be playing Miserlou had it not been for Dick
>
> Dale,
> > sorry, simple as that! I know Dick didn't write it. I've read
>
> where
> > Phil Dirt said Slacktone "owns" Miserlou now. Sorry, but there
> is
> > nothing farther from the truth than this statement. The
> majorities
> > opinion, Jacob?? I know a lot of surf musicians and fans who
> wouldn't
> > want to hear Slacktone's version of Miserlou.
>
> This thread is getting a bit out of control, but hell, I can't
> stay
> out of it! Several points:
>
> 1) I agree with Marty than Dave and Dusty 'have good heads on
> their
> shoulders', as well as being very kind and respectful human beings
> -
> I can't imagine them doing anything that would intentionally cause
>
> harm or inflict disrespect (though who knows how Dusty and Dick
> left
> off? The fact is that DD is a very difficult person, and it's
> quite
> possible that there's some bad blood between the two of them,
> though
> I doubt it).
>
> 2) Slacktone's version of Miserlou is not THAT different from
> Dick's
> original. All the parts and notes are in the same places, and
> Dave
> just throws in a few flashy bits, such as the fast-moving chords -
>
> but those don't really change the song very much. DD's version
> will
> always be the definitive one, no way around that.
>
> 3) Having said that, has anyone heard DD play Miserlou the way he
>
> recorded it originally in the last ten years? And what about the
>
> original beat which I think is so important to the song? Has
> anyone
> even heard him play it all the way through in ANY version? With
> the
> bridge? I've seen him some seven or eight times in the last
> twelve
> years, and I have not. He's changed it so much that it does
> absolutely nothing for me anymore, and many others that I've
> talked
> with. He obviously doesn't understand where the magic of that
> song
> comes from, and I believe he's ruined it over the last decade.
> I'd
> prefer for him to stop playing it, and let Slacktone and the Surf
>
> Coasters and whoever else do it - they do it much better (but not
>
> better than DD did it in '62).
>
> 4) DD's show isn't much of a musical experience - it's a show.
> You
> don't go expecting to hear songs. You go to see him make his
> silly
> faces, hear all 110+ db's of his Strat/reverb/Dual-Showmans, pull
> up
> barely-dressed teenage girls to hold up sheet music so he could
> play
> the same trumpet part he's been playing for 40 years in the middle
> of
> the Wedge, and then feel them up, and listen to him embarass
> himself
> by talking about how he suffers with the indigenous people of
> Earth,
> how his soul cries out over the destruction of the environment,
> how
> he taught Jimi and Stevie everything they knew and their entire
> catalog was actually an homage to him cause they thought he was
> dead,
> how he invented the Stratocaster and maybe the motorized airplane
>
> (though he thinks there may have been a couple of brothers around,
>
> too, but it was mostly him), how Deep Purple actually stole Smoke
> on
> the Water from one of his unrecorded riffs and to prove it he'll
> now
> just play the riff for about ten minuts, etc... If Slacktone
> plays
> the entire DD catalog right before his show, it wouldn't make a
> damn
> bit of difference, cause that's not why people come to see DD.
>
> My two cents.
> Ivan
>
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