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Okay, I'll go along with that, Marty. Maybe the Shadows only blow my mind
because I've
only just begun really listening to their work, and it is all new to me.
That said, I think we can all agree, they were too great bands who didn't get
their due, at
least in the States.
Damn those Beatles! ;-)
Gavin
--- In , "Marty Tippens" <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> I like what you have here, Gavin, BUT you've got it wrong on the technical
ability scale.
The Shadows never released any mind-blowing guitar work. They released
mind-blowing
guitar tones and great productions and arrangements. The Ventures did release
mind
blowing guitar work. One example is the Nokie's guitar in Caravan on the "On
Stage
Around the World" album which, to this day, is mind blowing.
>
> -Marty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gavin Ehringer
> To:
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 6:38 PM
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: The Shadows & the Ventures
>
>
>
> Well, this discussion is lively! I can't tell you how many interviews I've
seen with "classic
> rock" artists who said they were influenced by Hank Marvin & the Shadows:
Neil Young,
> Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck. MONSTERS of rock, who would in turn go
on to
> influence future generations.
>
> The only big player I remember who said he was influenced by The Ventures is
Eddie
Van
> Halen, who said the first song he learned was "Walk Don't Run." (Page did
say he tried
to
> get a fuzz effect to replicate the sound on The Ventures "2000 Pound Bee").
But I am
sure
> Ventures advocates could find dozens of examples to prove me wrong!
>
> I think we can all agree, The Shadows were the mind-blowing musicians, for
their time.
> Can't be said of The Ventures, but they did bring surf to the national
attention with
"Walk
> Don't Run," "Perfidia," and more.
>
> The Ventures probably inspired many more Americans to pick up guitars in the
first
place
> and play. Hmm...remember, the U.S. kids had many more artists to be
influenced by,
so
> how many successful ones would say they related primarily to The Ventures?
And, let's
> face it, most of the surf bands would have been influenced by Dick Dale,
Duane
> Eddie, Link Wray, jazz artists, Catalonian sheep herders, and others - The
Ventures
were
> their contemporaries. And, I wonder if The Ventures weren't more influenced
by those
> fairly anonymous surf bands, given their penchant for raiding other people's
set lists
and
> sounds!
>
> Truly, the Shadows had a more sophisticated approach. In the end, tho, I
think all three
> bands (Ventures, Shadows, & Dick Dale & His Deltones) deserve a wing in the
R'n'R Hall
of
> Fame. Or, at least a wave pool.
>
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