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I like what you have here, Gavin, BUT you've got it wrong on the technical
ability scale. The Shadows never released any mind-blowing guitar work. They
released mind-blowing guitar tones and great productions and arrangements. The
Ventures did release mind blowing guitar work. One example is the Nokie's guitar
in Caravan on the "On Stage Around the World" album which, to this day, is mind
blowing.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: Gavin Ehringer
To:
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 6:38 PM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: The Shadows & the Ventures
Well, this discussion is lively! I can't tell you how many interviews I've
seen with "classic
rock" artists who said they were influenced by Hank Marvin & the Shadows: Neil
Young,
Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck. MONSTERS of rock, who would in turn go on
to
influence future generations.
The only big player I remember who said he was influenced by The Ventures is
Eddie Van
Halen, who said the first song he learned was "Walk Don't Run." (Page did say
he tried to
get a fuzz effect to replicate the sound on The Ventures "2000 Pound Bee").
But I am sure
Ventures advocates could find dozens of examples to prove me wrong!
I think we can all agree, The Shadows were the mind-blowing musicians, for
their time.
Can't be said of The Ventures, but they did bring surf to the national
attention with "Walk
Don't Run," "Perfidia," and more.
The Ventures probably inspired many more Americans to pick up guitars in the
first place
and play. Hmm...remember, the U.S. kids had many more artists to be influenced
by, so
how many successful ones would say they related primarily to The Ventures?
And, let's
face it, most of the surf bands would have been influenced by Dick Dale, Duane
Eddie, Link Wray, jazz artists, Catalonian sheep herders, and others - The
Ventures were
their contemporaries. And, I wonder if The Ventures weren't more influenced by
those
fairly anonymous surf bands, given their penchant for raiding other people's
set lists and
sounds!
Truly, the Shadows had a more sophisticated approach. In the end, tho, I think
all three
bands (Ventures, Shadows, & Dick Dale & His Deltones) deserve a wing in the
R'n'R Hall of
Fame. Or, at least a wave pool.
.
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