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--- In , "supertwangreverb"
<supertwangreverb@y...> wrote:
>
> > What I WAS saying is that the Shadows actually inspired many more
> > guitarists who ended up becoming legendary (even though many surf
> > fans may not really like them) then the Ventures.
>
> Ivan, someone would have to do a load of research to make that a
> valid point. There are so many guitarists out there, and other
> musicians who don't play guitar. Keith Moon has said that "Ventures
> in Space" was his favorite album. I would think the Who(all tho I
> dislike them) have made a bigger impact on rock than Pink Floyd, or
> Queen.
No offense guys but this thread has gotten ridiculous. The Ventures
and The Shadows were both huge influences on guitar players. The
point that Ivan made, that isn't getting through to a lot of people,
is that Hank and Bruce probably had a bigger effect through osmosis
than did the Ventures. If you listen to a cross-section of surf from
the early 60s to now, there is an ungodly amount of it that is
blatantly influenced by Hank Marvin. Not only his tone, but his
melodic writing style. As much as I like the Ventures, they didn't
really innovate anything and didn't necessarily have an instantly
recognizable style (as did the Shadows). Sure, the Play Guitar with
the Ventures Lps (or whatever they were called) sold a lot and helped
a lot of guitarists to learn. To my understanding, session guys
played on that, not Nokie or Bob. I can pull more songs out of my
surf collection that will sound like the Shadows than will the Ventures.
Shawn Martin
I choose my beer based on how fast it'll take out a full grown snail.
Life is short. Play for the music. Wear your heart on your sleeve.
