Tremolo and/or reverb in an amp..do you use/want/need it?

Kman1

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Surf City

Posted on Dec 27 2008 08:59 PM

Ok, I was considering saying reissue, since it's not original, so no hard feelings.

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mad_dog

Joined: Sep 23, 2008
Posts: 349
Montclair, NJ

Posted on Dec 29 2008 09:52 AM

I can get along pretty well without either onboard. I prefer outboard alternatives to all but a handful of in-amp reverbs (such as old Ampegs). My favorite trems are usually via pedal. The big exception is not trem, it's the maggie true pitch shift vibrato. that one is so fine, and the in-amp variety beats any outboard attempt I've heard.

The reverb/trem scene changed for me yesterday. Traded some stuff. One of the items in hand is a Victoria Reverberato. Kind of a happy accident. It's one of the outboard units I was always most curious about. I only have a few moments with it. So far, the reverb shows a lot of promise. The tube tremelo section is flat out amazing. Not sure what exactly it is, but the effect is massive, wall-shaking if that's what you want. Sounds sorta like some of the brownfaces I tried years ago, has a chorus/univibe feel in there as much as trem. It's a world away from BF/SF trem tones. Man, what a sound!

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Rio

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Hamilton, Ontario
Canada

Posted on Dec 29 2008 11:37 AM

I use tremolo on a few songs in one of my bands, not at all with the other.

I'll usually bring a combo to shows for convenience, so I like having on-board reverb and tremolo for that reason. But when I get the urge, I'll bring a Fender piggy-back amp and my Weber "Tore-vibe", which has both reverb and tremolo in one outboard unit, and which sounds absolutely great. I originally got it to use with my Bassman, but I'll use it with other heads (Bandmaster, Dual Showman), even if they have trem already built-in.

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morphball

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Posted on Dec 29 2008 03:10 PM

This poll would have seriously benefited from having a third "neither" option... I always support the KISS rule myself, less to go wrong.

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D22

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Posted on Dec 29 2008 03:31 PM

Sorry. It's a great point I agree. I was just trying to narrow it down to one or the other.

Most Sincerely,
Dario

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Kman1

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Surf City

Posted on Dec 29 2008 04:29 PM

Both should be up there.

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Sonichris
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JakeDobner

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Posted on Dec 29 2008 04:36 PM

Having your amp cook you dinner should be up there as well...

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morphball

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Pittsboro, NC
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Posted on Dec 29 2008 05:42 PM

I think Eddie K's 2nd Bandmaster might actually be up for making you a potroast if ya want...

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SURFmole

Joined: Nov 22, 2007
Posts: 901
Portland, OR
United States

Posted on Dec 31 2008 03:56 AM

morphball
This poll would have seriously benefited from having a third "neither" option... I always support the KISS rule myself, less to go wrong.

Definitely. Neither would be my choice. Less to go wrong and less $$ added to the price of the amp.

JakeDobner
The bar on your guitar is vibrato. Vibrato changes pitch, tremolo changes volume.

It would have been helpful if you could have let Leo Fender know that a few years back Isn't the Tremolux the only Fender product that's correctly labeled?

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synchro

Joined: Feb 02, 2008
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Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
United States

Posted on Dec 31 2008 11:46 AM

FWIW I like tremolo in an amp but find that I rarely use it. It's great if you need it for a certain song but it's not an effect that I feel comfortable switching in without preparation. Synching it to the meter of a song is not easy.

I love onboard reverb and virtually always have some cranked in, even if I'm playing Jazz. However, IMO, serious Surf sounds best with an outboard tank.

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Kman1 Joined: Aug 29, 2008 Posts: 694 Surf City	Posted on Dec 27 2008 08:59 PM Ok, I was considering saying reissue, since it's not original, so no hard feelings. — Sonichris I also like to think that all early 60's fender equipment is happy to be playing surf music again. After all, its the music it was meant to play. Top
mad_dog Joined: Sep 23, 2008 Posts: 349 Montclair, NJ	Posted on Dec 29 2008 09:52 AM I can get along pretty well without either onboard. I prefer outboard alternatives to all but a handful of in-amp reverbs (such as old Ampegs). My favorite trems are usually via pedal. The big exception is not trem, it's the maggie true pitch shift vibrato. that one is so fine, and the in-amp variety beats any outboard attempt I've heard. The reverb/trem scene changed for me yesterday. Traded some stuff. One of the items in hand is a Victoria Reverberato. Kind of a happy accident. It's one of the outboard units I was always most curious about. I only have a few moments with it. So far, the reverb shows a lot of promise. The tube tremelo section is flat out amazing. Not sure what exactly it is, but the effect is massive, wall-shaking if that's what you want. Sounds sorta like some of the brownfaces I tried years ago, has a chorus/univibe feel in there as much as trem. It's a world away from BF/SF trem tones. Man, what a sound! Top
Rio Joined: May 22, 2006 Posts: 500 Hamilton, Ontario	Posted on Dec 29 2008 11:37 AM I use tremolo on a few songs in one of my bands, not at all with the other. I'll usually bring a combo to shows for convenience, so I like having on-board reverb and tremolo for that reason. But when I get the urge, I'll bring a Fender piggy-back amp and my Weber "Tore-vibe", which has both reverb and tremolo in one outboard unit, and which sounds absolutely great. I originally got it to use with my Bassman, but I'll use it with other heads (Bandmaster, Dual Showman), even if they have trem already built-in. — http://www.facebook.com/?sk=lf#!/rockinrio.delrosa http://www.facebook.com/?sk=lf#!/TheHighTides http://www.facebook.com/?sk=lf#!/pages/The-Blue-Demons Top
morphball Joined: Dec 23, 2008 Posts: 3324 Pittsboro, NC	Posted on Dec 29 2008 03:10 PM This poll would have seriously benefited from having a third "neither" option... I always support the KISS rule myself, less to go wrong. — Mike http://www.youtube.com/morphballio Top
D22 Joined: Apr 20, 2006 Posts: 2056	Posted on Dec 29 2008 03:31 PM Sorry. It's a great point I agree. I was just trying to narrow it down to one or the other. Most Sincerely, Dario — Top
Kman1 Joined: Aug 29, 2008 Posts: 694 Surf City	Posted on Dec 29 2008 04:29 PM Both should be up there. — Sonichris I also like to think that all early 60's fender equipment is happy to be playing surf music again. After all, its the music it was meant to play. Top
JakeDobner Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle	Posted on Dec 29 2008 04:36 PM Having your amp cook you dinner should be up there as well... Top
morphball Joined: Dec 23, 2008 Posts: 3324 Pittsboro, NC	Posted on Dec 29 2008 05:42 PM I think Eddie K's 2nd Bandmaster might actually be up for making you a potroast if ya want... — Mike http://www.youtube.com/morphballio Top
SURFmole Joined: Nov 22, 2007 Posts: 901 Portland, OR	Posted on Dec 31 2008 03:56 AM morphball This poll would have seriously benefited from having a third "neither" option... I always support the KISS rule myself, less to go wrong. Definitely. Neither would be my choice. Less to go wrong and less $$ added to the price of the amp. JakeDobner The bar on your guitar is vibrato. Vibrato changes pitch, tremolo changes volume. It would have been helpful if you could have let Leo Fender know that a few years back Isn't the Tremolux the only Fender product that's correctly labeled? — www.apollo4.com Top
synchro Joined: Feb 02, 2008 Posts: 4567 Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.	Posted on Dec 31 2008 11:46 AM FWIW I like tremolo in an amp but find that I rarely use it. It's great if you need it for a certain song but it's not an effect that I feel comfortable switching in without preparation. Synching it to the meter of a song is not easy. I love onboard reverb and virtually always have some cranked in, even if I'm playing Jazz. However, IMO, serious Surf sounds best with an outboard tank. — The artist formerly known as: Synchro When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar. Top

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