this caught my eye a few minutes ago in Yahoo

thought it might make a topic for discussion

Unsteady Freddie

the link, shortcut:

http://tinyurl.com/4ufke6

http://www.facebook.com/unsteady.freddie

supertonesurf
whats an album

oh well, that closes this discussion, Tim!

see U tomorrow at the SURF-ROCK SHINDIG!

Unsteady Freddie

http://www.facebook.com/unsteady.freddie

tonetti
I really hope it doesn't come to this, I dont mind downloading things I wouldn't normally purchase, but there is something great about having the physical album/disc and artwork. I dont have the same appreciation for a burned disk as I do for the real thing.
Just my 2 cents!!

Tonetti,

I'm so with ya on that!

I still luv my vinyl (plenty of surf too); holding an album cover, ALONE, is a thrill, even before I drop the needle down! I know you understand that, and relate to that sensation!

But people in the surf genre I suspect will continue to press their music, either thru small labels, or on their own, and make them available in that format. I am confident that won't change, at least in the forseeable future.

{which reminds me -- TIM -- bring some CDs to sell at the SHINDIG!! haha}

UNSTEADY FREDDIE

http://www.facebook.com/unsteady.freddie

I get funny looks from my kids when I use the term "record", if that helps.

SSIV

I sure hope that the physical product doesn't go away. I have hundreds of vinyl albums and nearly a thousand CDs and I would like to continue to expand my collection.

That having been said, the media has had a big effect on how music was produced, recorded and distributed. The idea of songs being 2 - 3 minutes long originally came from the length of the 78 and later the 45. With records of any sort the sound quality diminished as you got closer to the center of the record. Radio stations built their programming schedules around the limitations of records and that became the default standard.

When the LP came along (late '50s IIRC) there was a collision of interests because artists could now record songs that were considerably longer. Radio/45 cuts came along and if you wanted to hear the real thing you had to buy the LP. I can remember the excitement of buying albums in the early '70s, knowing that I'd be hearing songs that hadn't been cropped.

Sadly, I see the recording industry as being so shortsighted that they'll run to anything that promises short-term gains so I wouldn't be surprised by anything at this point.

The artist formerly known as: Synchro

When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.

I think there's more small companys cutting vinyl over recent years.
DJ's the world over love vinyl and so do a minority of collectors, music is still spinning be it on '45, CD or Harddive.. or is it? Reliable Solid-state memory is almost on our doorsteps that's for sure. How about Microsoft with their future licensing ideas ie: when the internet is super fast we all buy a yearly licence, theres no installation disc and the program and all your work is kept on a server! What next?

that article is really just hailing the incoming doom of the record industry of the past. The top 40 artist is an outdated notion now that music is freely shared through the internet. That's not to say there's isn't a hype machine, but it's been reconfigured.

The real difference here is that the physical single is now digital, which makes it easier and more storable, so there's even less reason to buy a new Britney album. However, I think your average listener still appreciates, you know, hearing things that they haven't heard before. You get a taste through a single/myspace and you go get the real album to hear what else they've got.

As far as the conversion to digital, I think it's splitting up. CD used to be a compromise between aesthetic quality and convenience, digital is pure convenience and vinyl is aesthetic quality. I think it's going to split, and we'll be largely unaffected other than more vinyl (which is hardly worth crying over I think).

Any labels lurking around here though: if that's what happens, please be one of those cool labels that includes a code for an MP3 download with the vinyl

Storm Surge of Reverb: Surf & Instro Radio

This guy in the UK is cutting old cd's so they play on a turntable.

I guess the next step would be to have CD on one side and grooves on the other.

http://www.futuresonic.com/08/art/cdrecycled/

synchro
I would call that retro-cycling.

And _cutting edge _at the same time

Kman1
Thanks to many people here, I want to buy CDs.

Bah. Why waste the extra dough on a piece of plastic and paper that you won't bother to look at beyond your initial purchase? If all you are going to do is load the contents of a CD on an iPod, why not just cut out the middle man? It gives you more to spend on what you really want, like more music.

I say that at least as far as CDs go. I could see still buying LPs because it gives you a totally different vibe. However, I still have trouble going for a jog with a record player strapped to my belt.

Sean