DannySnyder
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
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Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Dec 08 2007 11:45 PM
I've just discovered that there are websites that allow you to upload ringtones from your own computer. Why not have a section in the 'downloads' area for ringtones. Maximum song length maybe 30 seconds. I think it'd be cool to have some reverberated tones emanating from our cell phones.
— Danny Snyder
"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo
Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta
Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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Seattle
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Posted on Dec 09 2007 12:26 AM
You need to have access to the internet with your phone to download these ringtones. Most modern phones have mini USB or somesort of removable flash memory. All you have to do it hook it up to your computer and drag and drop mp3s or photos.
On my other computer I have has a program that can edit songs to make better ringtones.
Personally I am very picky on my ringtones and there is only one song I've discovered that I will use that sounds decent over the phone's speaker.
Properly reading your post now I think it would be cool to have ringtones available.
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Brian
Joined: Feb 25, 2006
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Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on Dec 09 2007 01:43 PM
I'm fine with that if people upload original creations and not copyrighted stuff.
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Tuck
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Denver, CO
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Posted on Dec 10 2007 02:46 AM
Brian
... and not copyrighted stuff.
The practical problem here is that really you can't use any existing song. I believe that in principle - i.e., legally - you shouldn't even make a ringtone privately for personal use if you make it from commercial material. Of course, as long as you don't distribute it you might get away with it.
On the other hand, ringtones are potentially something any band could either sell or use as a promotional item, though surprisingly MySpace and its competitors (?) don't actually have a facility to make this or that song - or a defined equivalent of it - a ringtone yet! ("Click here to make this your ringtone.") Exploitation of the song as ringtone possibility is mostly restricted to heavily commercialized music so far.
There are definitely web sites fpr downloading ringtones around, mostly commercial. I remember seeing a Susan and the Surftones ringtone offer about a year ago. I'd have been interested if I only had a cell phone. However, if I did have one, I think maybe I'd prefer something from Slacktone, say a snippet of Daytona Mona?
I hadn't considered the issue that Jake raises of whether a given snippet might sound reasonable on a phone. Let alone what bit or what length of bit might be reasonable as a ringtone. Heck, maybe Slacktone doesn't work well on phones ...
I haven't actually seen anyone take this notion of selling ringtones to the logical extreme of specifically trying to create hit ringtones. So far the material in circulation is mostly either derived from something else or amounts to fairly a fairly simple-minded sound effects things, I think. Or maybe I'm just too peripheral to the cell phone culture to know what's happening.
I gather there may be several phone-specific schemes for ringtone files and/or downloading them. You can definitely get software for creating ringtones from sound files, but you need to make sure it supports your phone. The scheme for downloading ringtones to a given phone can be a bit difficult to use. In particular, you may require specific hardware, which you might need to order as an additional product; i.e., your phone as you bought it may not have a way to accept ringtones from your computer, though it can almost certainly get them from your phone service for a fee.
Another consideration: my kids, who, unlike me, are fully plugged in cell phone people, tell me that fancy ringtones are all very well, but they prefer to save the memory for pictures and addresses, etc.
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DannySnyder
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
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Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Dec 10 2007 07:48 AM
I think a case can be made that this is legal.
We all have the technology available (for free) to make any song file into your own ringtone. If you already bought a Slacktone CD and load it in your ipod, is it any different to load 30 seconds of it into your cell phone? Aren't most songs available on Amazon for public use in 30 second lengths?
FWIW I'll be posting 30 second snippets of Tmen songs onto the download page. I'll see how Mel feels about MBP songs.
— Danny Snyder
"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo
Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta
Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party
Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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Seattle
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Posted on Dec 10 2007 08:38 AM
There are hit ringtones. They are big big business. Teenagers spend an insane amount of money on their cellphones.
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Surfgitar
Joined: Mar 16, 2007
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Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
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Posted on Dec 10 2007 10:55 AM
On our contact page on our band website, when somebody signs up to be on our e-mail list we send them ringtones from our originals. They have to use the bluetooth technology between their computer and cellphone to upload them, so it's not a direct process. But it has proven to be popular and a lot of people have requested them - especially after seeing us at a show.
— CUTBACK
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DannySnyder
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
Posts: 11050
Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Dec 10 2007 11:37 AM
I used this website:
http://www.myxertones.com
It was free, easy and worked perfectly well. It sends the soundfile to your phone so no need to hook up to computer.
— Danny Snyder
"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo
Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta
Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party
Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF
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Surfgitar
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Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
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Posted on Dec 10 2007 11:41 AM
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Tuck
Joined: Sep 02, 2006
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Denver, CO
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Posted on Dec 10 2007 07:39 PM
JakeDobner
There are hit ringtones. They are big big business.
OK, but were they designed as ringtones up front, or are they follow ons to some song that's a hit in its own right? Just asking, from the depths of my ignorance. I'm not claiming there's no such thing or anything like that.
I'm thinking of how people used to make a song, and then maybe add a video treatment, whereas now I think at least some operations make the video and the song is the sound track.
So I'm thinking people might sometimes eventually set out to make a good ring tone and the song would be playing it three times in a row, or concatenating several different ones together. I'm not sure whether I'm intrigued or horrified ...
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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Seattle
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Posted on Dec 10 2007 07:50 PM
There is literally people who make ringtones for ringtones sake. And some rap artists released a single via ringtone only.
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verbaddict
Joined: Feb 14, 2007
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Posted on Dec 11 2007 08:14 AM
JakeDobner
There is literally people who make ringtones for ringtones sake. And some rap artists released a single via ringtone only.
wow i guess listening to surf music i am missing so much. LOL
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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Seattle
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Posted on Dec 11 2007 01:14 PM
No, you are missing absolutely nothing at all. Well, you aren't missing hit ringtones anyways. They are awful awful things.
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CaptainSensible
Joined: Nov 08, 2006
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Leesburg, VA
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Posted on Dec 11 2007 10:09 PM
JakeDobner
Personally I am very picky on my ringtones and there is only one song I've discovered that I will use that sounds decent over the phone's speaker.
Let me guess. You only like ringtones made with vintage equipment.
— Sean
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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Seattle
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Posted on Dec 11 2007 10:43 PM
The ringtone I have was recorded with protools, and reissue amps and guitars.
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Brian
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Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on Dec 12 2007 07:56 AM
JakeDobner
The ringtone I have was recorded with protools, and reissue amps and guitars.
KILL HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!
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rockfish
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Posted on Dec 13 2007 04:56 PM
JakeDobner
The ringtone I have was recorded with protools, and reissue amps and guitars.
Get a job kid.
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Brian
Joined: Feb 25, 2006
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Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on Dec 19 2007 06:28 PM
Okay, sorry, I finally got around to adding this download category.
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Joelman
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Redlands, CA
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Posted on Dec 28 2007 10:59 PM
So where are the ringtones you guys?
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DannySnyder
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
Posts: 11050
Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Dec 29 2007 01:52 AM
I'll be working on some shortly
— Danny Snyder
"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo
Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta
Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party
Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF
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