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well i took the first step, i bought a jag.

Its a Dakota Red AVRI Fender Jaguar

heres the ebay linky:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110201420342

So now I'm a proud owner of a Jag!!

next step, sell the horrid half-stack and find my self a decent amp ( most likely a champ, atleast until my sophomore year of college then ill get a combo)

let me know what you guys think!

You laugh at me because I'm differnet, i laugh at you becuase you are all the same

Great buy, congratulations !

Augusto Vite

www.facebook.com/carne.y.cosas

And, of course, Dakota Red is the best colour for a Jag, so well done on that score.

Los Fantasticos

Excellent! I wonder though, who sets up a guitar professionally several times a year? Must of been a millionare, or a someone friends with a guitar tech. (or a guitar tech) Find out what strings the nut is filed for, you may need to get the slots enlarged if you use 13's (which I recommend) and get rid of the buzz stop.

Danny Snyder

"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo

I am now playing trumpet with Prince Buster tribute band 'Balzac'

Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta

Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party

Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF

Thanks guys!

I'll post some pictures when I get it.

I wonder though, who sets up a guitar professionally several times a year?

Thats what i was wondering? Iv only known one person who has done that and that was my guitar teacher, he bought this custom Gibson from Huey Lewis's guitarist (its a Les paul DC body with an explorer neck) and it has allot of trouble with the change of seasons and what not like the frets will actually stick out the ends of the neck. But if this guitar has been babied then I'm not gonna complain.

When I first started playing guitar I kept braking those dinky .09 strings so I beefed up my Epi SG with some .13's man do I miss them, I'll have to find out what the nuts filed for, I'm debating if i want to go back to the flatwound stings I use to use or not.

Whats you opinion on the mods, I know there quite a few threads around here about the buzz stop. I thought if you put a mustang bridge on a buzzstop wasn't needed.
I think ill just experiment to see if I like it or not.

You laugh at me because I'm differnet, i laugh at you becuase you are all the same

Riptide
I thought if you put a mustang bridge on a buzzstop wasn't needed. I think ill just experiment to see if I like it or not.

That's what I would do. I tried all of the above, but ended up going back to the stock bridge and ditched the buzzstop.

Ryan
The Secret Samurai Website
The Secret Samurai on Facebook

My understanding is that the thicker strings eliminate the need for buzzstop. Mustang bridge eliminates the issues with the saddles - of which I've personally had only minor problems. No need for you to replace the bridge.

Danny Snyder

"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo

I am now playing trumpet with Prince Buster tribute band 'Balzac'

Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta

Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party

Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF

Kyle of the Verbtones uses .09 strings and has no need for the buzzstop or mustang bridge. His Jags actually feel really nice to play.

People dog the Jag/Jazz bridges too much. They are one of the most customizable bridges. They have a lot of movable parts and options on where to set the strings. You just have to learn how to set them up.

JakeDobner
People dog the Jag/Jazz bridges too much. They are one of the most customizable bridges. They have a lot of movable parts and options on where to set the strings. You just have to learn how to set them up.

I've been saying that forever!! IMO, the Jag/JM bridge is tops. The guitar tech I used to take my stuff to won't work on them. When I got my Jag I took it to him to have it set up. He thinks Jags/JMs are a "novelty." Something Fender reissued for nostalgia. He says you can't intonate a floating bridge. Rolling Eyes

So, I just learned how to set up my own guitars! I really should thank him! Very Happy

The guitar arrived today in the mail, and I could not be happier with it.
My only complaint is that the seller didn't include the keys to the case (luckily it was unlocked) so I'm going to see if the seller has them or not, but that has nothing to do with the guitar!

I'll try and post pictures tomorrow!

You laugh at me because I'm differnet, i laugh at you becuase you are all the same

The key will keep no one out of your case. And actually they will steal the case as well as the guitar. I can open all of my cases while locked.

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true, its more of a novelty than a security device

You laugh at me because I'm differnet, i laugh at you becuase you are all the same

For those still without a clue as to the Jazzmasters versitility check out these youtube Jazzmaster videos

Joel

Joelman
For those still without a clue as to the Jazzmasters versitility check out these youtube Jazzmaster videos

Joel

I don't like the tone, crappy amp probably, and he plays it too fast and with little feel.

What is versatility? Ability to get different tones? Any pedal or equalizer can get a different tone.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1Aad16yI6D8

You have heavy distortion, a twangy almost surfy part, and a delay part. I think versatility comes more from the player than the guitar. The guitar just makes it sound better.

Jake there are many different videos there that demo the Jazzmaster. Not just the one.

My point is that just about any kind of music (sound) can be gotten from the Jazzmaster. Even the sounds (or music if you will) that we don't care for. It is so with all musical instruments.

Riptide was deciding between a Jazzmaster and a Jaguar.
I guess he has decided for the Jag.

But many others read these threads and only get the points made about why we like the Jazzmaster guitar. But without some kind of a demo they only have our opinions to go on. So hence my link to the different Jazzmasters being demo'd.

Joel

I would add as an after thought.

If any guitar can make any sound why do we have so many different kinds of guitars ourselves( you and I)? Each guitar I own has it's own voice. If I choose to distort that voice it is my choice. But the guitar still has an individual voice of it's own. Hence the choices we have to make when choosing a certain style or type of guitar.

Joelman
Riptide was deciding between a Jazzmaster and a Jaguar.
I guess he has decided for the Jag.

But many others read these threads and only get the points made about why we like the Jazzmaster guitar.

So if I'm reading it right, the main plusses for the JM are the longer scale length (could be a minus if you like the shorter scale I guess) and the versatility it has?

In your opinion can the Jazzmaster approach a Strat or Jaguar's attack and cluck? I've only really played one JM and it was a very dead sounding one from the 70's so my preconceived idea of it is that it's somewhat warm and muffled sounding in comparison to a Strat/Jag/Tele...is that true?

Do the Jazzmaster pickups sound closer to traditional Fender single coil (somewhat thin and trebly with fairly low output) or more like a P90 (fat tone with bite and high output)?

What's "the" best (or most used) tone out of a Jazzmaster for surf, neck, bridge, or combo?

Sorry if I'm hijacking this thread but I've been trying to decide between a Jazzmaster, Jaguar, or some mongrel hybrid of the two. -Thanks

www.apollo4.com

SURFmole:
The Jazzmaster does not have the same attack or "cluck" as the strat (if I am guessing what 'cluck' means correctly Wink ) They are two different animals, both very distinct. The JM has a warmer and fatter tone to me. It also has that lack of sustain 'plunk' that comes from its bridge/tremolo design that lets the strings resonate behind the bridge. The strat doesn't do that. Its got waaaay more sustain.

I play both (although I favor the JM these days). Some say the JM is darker sounding and I think I would agree with that. I feel that the JM is has a very sophisticated tone, while the strat has a more aggressive & bright tone. They are both very versatile guitars. Just depends on what type of tone you're after. From a neck/fingerboard perspective, they're typically more similar than different. Just my $.02.

Hope this helps. Also this forum's archives has a ton of threads dedicated to this topic. Take a look...
Good luck and let us know what you decide on!

Ryan
The Secret Samurai Website
The Secret Samurai on Facebook

Well I think some facts will help with the difference between the Jag and the JM. The scale length are as so.

JM 25.5"
Jag 24"

Frets
JM 21
Jag 22

Now we do the math. Jag fret positions are closer together.
Hummmm,, Maybe better for shorter smaller fingers.
Both are issued with the same size strings, and body wood. Each have their own PUP design. They both have multi circuts. And two pup's

So why choose one over the other?
Heck I say personal preference. Maybe it's the chrome of the Jag, or the flip switches?

When I play,
I use all the switch positions on my JM.
I set the rythem circuts and leave them. Lead I switch as needed.

I don't own a Jag, because I have a Strat. If I didn't have a Strat I'd also own a Jag.
Surf sounds are what you make them to be. A Strat can cover most bases well. Jag's and JM's can do so also.

jmho.

Joel

Just got my camera back from my friend! Expect pics up tomorrow.

So far, I'll say this from when I was trying to decide whether I wanted a Jaguar or a Jazzmaster, I first listened to as many sound clips as possible. Then I looked at the specs of the guitar. Then if I ever wanted to mod or sell the guitar (prices availability etc.) And then of course just how it looks. I bought the Jag to be honest on a kind of gut Instinct, as soon as i saw one way before I ever started playing I knew I wanted one. I felt inside of me that the Jag is probably what I wanted so I went for it and I love it. I love the shorter neck even if it isn't that noticeable. I have really long fingers and big hands and I still love it. I love the tone and all the switches even if they arn't gig friendly. I also like the balance of pick guard and chrome. I think its really up to personal preference like everyone says. Also another kicker for me was the headstock, I'm not entirely sure if the headstocks are the same or not on the Jaguars and Jazzmasters but I like the way the Jaguar looks (the logo and everything) better. But thats all my opinions and what i thought when i was trying to decide. Either way they are both amazing guitars.

You laugh at me because I'm differnet, i laugh at you becuase you are all the same

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