horax
Joined: Mar 23, 2011
Posts: 518
colorado springs
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Posted on Feb 21 2024 06:15 PM
Playing surf and blues...I only play in my house, so I don't need to worry about playing with bands, etc.
Right now I've condensed my collection to a LIne 6 Catalyst 200 2x12.
It's surprisingly good, but still looking for something different.
I'm in between the following:
Hot Rod Deluxe IV
Blues Deluxe
Tonemaster Twin Reverb in cream
Tonemaster Deluxe Reverb in cream
Princeton reverb 68
I can't spend more than what these cost. Which would you choose and why?
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cirecc
Joined: Mar 06, 2006
Posts: 306
seattle, wa
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Posted on Feb 21 2024 08:12 PM
I would personally choose the Princeton reverb 68 out of those choices if you’re only playing at home. The hot rod and blues deluxe are very loud, and you won’t be able to turn it up to a point where you get the advantage of a tube amp. The TM deluxe reverb would be my second choice but you already have that line 6 modeling amp that I’m sure can di into your computer or work with headphones.
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DannySnyder
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
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Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Feb 21 2024 08:43 PM
Just to throw a curveball, I'd use my laptop with Logic going through some good powered monitors. You can get some excellent guitar tones out of logicpro these days.
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edwardsand
Joined: Jun 29, 2018
Posts: 769
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Posted on Feb 22 2024 08:16 AM
I would also go for the Princeton - good for lower volume playing, has real spring reverb and can still get loud.
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chiba
Joined: Sep 02, 2022
Posts: 516
Central VA
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Posted on Feb 22 2024 12:36 PM
Tonemaster Deluxe - good sound, light weight!
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taijiguy
Joined: Mar 27, 2006
Posts: 210
Newington, CT USA
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Posted on Feb 23 2024 06:52 AM
I'd go for the Princeton, but the 65.
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4452
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Feb 23 2024 07:32 AM
taijiguy wrote:
I'd go for the Princeton, but the 65.
What he said.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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WoodyJ
Joined: Apr 05, 2006
Posts: 1544
Bethlehem, GA
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Posted on Feb 23 2024 01:35 PM
I'm VERY happy with the Chris Stapleton'62 Princeton hooked to a old timey Fender Reverb. With it's 12" Eminence, it can get almost as loud as my Deluxe Reverb.
Unfortunately, The Stapleton is on the expensive side. Mine is a discounted "open box" one that was reasonably priced.
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Chris_V
Joined: Jul 04, 2021
Posts: 32
Albuquerque, New Mexico
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Posted on Feb 23 2024 01:48 PM
Have you considered Quilter? Their Aviator Cub is close to half of what a Princeton would cost. I understand a preference for tubes, but the Quilter on its own sounds great - extremely close to a tube amp. I've used a Quilter live for a surf gig, and was not missing the tubes.
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4452
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Feb 23 2024 03:46 PM
WoodyJ wrote:
I'm VERY happy with the Chris Stapleton'62 Princeton hooked to a old timey Fender Reverb. With it's 12" Eminence, it can get almost as loud as my Deluxe Reverb.
Unfortunately, The Stapleton is on the expensive side. Mine is a discounted "open box" one that was reasonably priced.
I have a boutique amp that is quite similar, circuit-wise, and it’s great for Surf.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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Surfysonic
Joined: Oct 17, 2009
Posts: 527
Walkersville, MD
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Posted on Feb 24 2024 08:38 AM
synchro wrote:
WoodyJ wrote:
I'm VERY happy with the Chris Stapleton'62 Princeton hooked to a old timey Fender Reverb. With it's 12" Eminence, it can get almost as loud as my Deluxe Reverb.
Unfortunately, The Stapleton is on the expensive side. Mine is a discounted "open box" one that was reasonably priced.
I have a boutique amp that is quite similar, circuit-wise, and it’s great for Surf.
Agree - I also got my '62 Princeton Chris Stapleton Edition for a discounted price and it's one of my most played amps at home. I combine it with my SurfyBear Classic and pedals. Great handwired amp if you can find a used or discounted one for under $2K.
If the cost rules out the '62 Princeton Chris Stapleton Edition, I'd either go for the '65 Reissue Princeton or the Tone Master Deluxe. My playing out amp is my Tone Master Twin Reverb and it's awesome - lightweight, 5 attenuated settings (1W, 5W, 12W, 22W, 40W and 85W), and Line Out.
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murph
Joined: Dec 16, 2010
Posts: 341
Chapel Hill, NC
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Posted on Feb 25 2024 10:27 AM
That's a sweet looking combo, Woody! I lucked into a Chris Stapleton Princeton on FB marketplace last Fall. I had to drive 3 hours each way to get it, but it was a crazy good deal (as in almost too good to be true). Could not be happier/more pleased with the amp for surf/instro/spaghetti western type stuff!
I'm currently using a SA True Spring reverb pedal (that sounds great), but seeing that reissue tank paired with the amp is giving me (expensive) thoughts.
-murph
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4452
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Feb 25 2024 10:43 AM
murph wrote:
That's a sweet looking combo, Woody! I lucked into a Chris Stapleton Princeton on FB marketplace last Fall. I had to drive 3 hours each way to get it, but it was a crazy good deal (as in almost too good to be true). Could not be happier/more pleased with the amp for surf/instro/spaghetti western type stuff!
I'm currently using a SA True Spring reverb pedal (that sounds great), but seeing that reissue tank paired with the amp is giving me (expensive) thoughts.
-murph
That’s my rig, much of the time. I have a Winfield Tremor, which is functionally the same as the Stapleton Princeton. It’s pretty much the same basic timbre as a Brown Panel Showman, but in a much smaller package.
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When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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edwardsand
Joined: Jun 29, 2018
Posts: 769
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Posted on Feb 25 2024 07:25 PM
Can confirm that a 6G2 Princeton with a 12" speaker is a most righteous sounding amp for playing at home. All you have to do is add your own reverb.
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wayrayrla
Joined: Nov 04, 2021
Posts: 2
Wisconsin
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Posted on Mar 03 2024 09:54 PM
I am in the same boat and leaning towards the TM Deluxe. How is the Princeton at lower volumes?
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4452
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Mar 04 2024 05:50 AM
wayrayrla wrote:
I am in the same boat and leaning towards the TM Deluxe. How is the Princeton at lower volumes?
Princetons are fairly low-gain, docile amps. They do quite well at lower volumes.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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murph
Joined: Dec 16, 2010
Posts: 341
Chapel Hill, NC
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Posted on Mar 04 2024 07:34 AM
wayrayrla wrote:
I am in the same boat and leaning towards the TM Deluxe. How is the Princeton at lower volumes?
The Princeton sounds surprisingly warm and full at low volume... the 12" speaker likely contributes to that. It gets loud FAST, so most times I am playing with the knob between 2-3. It stays clean up til around 6+, so if you want any kind of grit or breakup at lower volumes, you may want to run a pedal. I have an always on EP Booster (just to fatten the tone of the jag a little) and a mini MXR Timmy for drive tonezzzz (seldom used but nice to have available).
-murph
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taijiguy
Joined: Mar 27, 2006
Posts: 210
Newington, CT USA
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Posted on Mar 04 2024 07:45 AM
My Princeton Reverb is a 65 PRRI with a Weber California 10" speaker with aluminum dome. I tried a limited edition PRRI with a 12" speaker. I didn't like it. It sounded "boxy" to me, so I went with the 10". The Weber really gives it some punch and clarity, and has a nice, fat sound.
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rockndawg
Joined: Aug 06, 2018
Posts: 37
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Posted on Mar 06 2024 06:42 AM
I have a Tone Master Twin which I really like and use 99% of the time and I have a ton of tube amps! The light weight, attenuator and the direct out are all super useable, plus it sounds great and I'm just a bedroom player.
Being my Tone Master Twin works so well I would suggest trying a Tone Master Princeton.
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wayrayrla
Joined: Nov 04, 2021
Posts: 2
Wisconsin
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Posted on Apr 02 2024 10:15 PM
rockndawg wrote:
I have a Tone Master Twin which I really like and use 99% of the time and I have a ton of tube amps! The light weight, attenuator and the direct out are all super useable, plus it sounds great and I'm just a bedroom player.
Being my Tone Master Twin works so well I would suggest trying a Tone Master Princeton.
The TM TR is also enticing to me! Two of my tube amps both need work and I am really struggling to put more $ into them. I love the surf stuff at home and do a church gig where the attenuator would be trick!
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