Tqi wrote:

nismosurf wrote:

Ok, I’m out.

Look, it was the only scenarios I could think of - every major tube factory is gone, or tubes are banned. Otherwise - they're just not going anywhere.

Actually, I’ve cornered the market on tubes and everyone will be paying my price from now on.

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Tqi wrote:

I have 53 pre-amp tubes, 6 EF-80's and my Fender amps are all fully loaded. Do your worst, Cousin Gaila.

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nismosurf wrote:

Never in my life have I had to replace tubes in an amp. There are literally specimens of the very amps we all love and talk about going on the same set of tubes for the last fifty years. They will outlive me.

J

I would agree. Unless you are really pushing an amp hard, it’s tubes will usually last a long time. I’m trying to remember, but I think I have replaced on failed preamp tube and replaced an unbalanced quad of 6L6 GCs in my Twin. They were not bad, but just not a well balanced set.

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It appears that an increasing number of touring guitarists are getting into the modelling/profiling amps to cut down on cartage/transportation fees. Paying $2,000 for an all-in-one amp and effects solution economically makes sense in many situations. I think we are safe from that in our community of surf musicians here

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Tqi wrote:

nismosurf wrote:

Never in my life have I had to replace tubes in an amp. There are literally specimens of the very amps we all love and talk about going on the same set of tubes for the last fifty years. They will outlive me.

Weirdly, the only amp I've ever had to replace a tube in was a digital modelling amp. Go figure.

Lol, this comment sent me

Tqi wrote:

wipedoutnyc wrote:

Lol, this comment sent me

It really is kind of wild, isn't it! Either those amps are just weirdly hard on tubes, or I just really abused mine.

So far the 100 watt one is doing ok!

Sometimes tubes die for no reason. Maybe this particular tube didn’t like hanging around all of that digital stuff and decided to end it all.

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As an ape that uses a Tonemaster Princeton, and the other gorilla in the band is going to be switching to a Tonemaster Deluxe full-time (which means I'll be switching back to my TMDR), I was kind of interested to see what the Tonemaster Pro had to offer.

In theory, it's neat, but I would underutilize the bananas out of it. The pedal options are pretty limited compared to what I would expect and the more interesting multi speaker models are completely missing, so that kind of kills that.

I'll be interested to see what kinds of patches the public comes up with, and also when people start experimenting with amp models with multi speaker cabs, it might also pique this chimp's interest.

In terms of tube vs modeling, it's just a different tool for a different job. The modelers offer some cool capabilities that tube amps can't, and the tube amps offer more tonal complexities in some situations, so it's down to personal preference ultimately.

In terms of patches, I don't spend a ton of time comparing and contrasting and definitely not tweaking, so most modeler platforms I expect to set-and-forget - and then just rock out.

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I’m not against modeling. Have had a ton of them, and currently just use three UA amp pedals (Dream, Ruby, and Woodrow) through stereo monitors as my home setup. But I’ve just never been a fan of multi-effects setups for stomp boxes. The modeling may be quite good, but I still just prefer individual boxes with knobs I can see and turn easily. Plus for the stuff I play 95% of the time, I just don’t need access to a ton of different effects. Reverb, tremolo, two delays, and a little grit and I’m good to go.

Sean

CaptainSensible wrote:

I’m not against modeling. Have had a ton of them, and currently just use three UA amp pedals (Dream, Ruby, and Woodrow) through stereo monitors as my home setup. But I’ve just never been a fan of multi-effects setups for stomp boxes. The modeling may be quite good, but I still just prefer individual boxes with knobs I can see and turn easily. Plus for the stuff I play 95% of the time, I just don’t need access to a ton of different effects. Reverb, tremolo, two delays, and a little grit and I’m good to go.

One thing Fender did which appears to be interesting, is to set this up like a pedalboard with separate controls for each effect, although the switches also can be rotated like a knob, and have dynamic labels. I haven’t seen one in person, so I withhold judgment for or against. I wasn’t entirely clear on whether it meant to be used as a pedalboard, and operated by foot.

The vast majority of the time, I play through a board with a delay, a reverb + tremolo and a Surfy Industries Blossom Point. This is all I use, pretty much all of the time.

For gigs, I use a somewhat more complicated board, but mostly because I want to make all of my options foot-switchable, so I don’t have to fiddle with settings, during a gig. This uses a Stanley Blue Nebula, which I use as a setlist manager and use the presets within (mostly plate reverb and delays) for many songs, but the Source Audio Vertigo gives me tremolo which I can control with a tap tempo switch, separate from the reverb. The True Spring is my Surf reverb (used with a preamp-only patch on the Blue Nebula) and the blue and white pedal is setup for hall-reverb and a light slap-back, for sort of a Chet Atkins sound. There’s also a Nobels ODR-1 Drivd pedal which I use only to take the edge off, if I feel that the sound may be too harsh. I can actually get most of the same sounds out of the small board, but it requires changing settings, which I don’t care to do during a gig.

So I agree, I don’t use a lot of effects, but I can see there being an advantage to having a Phase Shifter, a Flanger, or a Chorus on tap, without losing any pedalboard real estate. These are things I use very rarely, but for one song per set, they might come in handy.

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