diceophonic
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Posted on May 23 2006 01:18 PM
WR
unlunf
Ya know, my father once said, "If I'd known at your age what I know now, I'd have set the world on fire."
Took me a long time to understand what the hell he meant. Somehow I think it's gonna take you guys even longer.
Toodle-oo!
Know what Unlunf, I'll just refer you to Schopenhauer's Eristische Dialektik oder die Kunst Recht zu behalten to show how that argument is not valid even if it's right. (and to not make the same mistake and in case your german isn't what it used to be, I'll summarize: relying on any kind of aspect of the messanger to render the message valid is unfair and invalid debating tactic. so is relying on your age, (undocumented) experience or your father.)
crnch - shifting back into friendly gear - crnch
WR
Yes WR well done! let's shift back into friendly gear chat and Unlunf enough politics man are you here for gear talk or what?? if not exit stage left........... and let other's enjoy the forum we don't need bad apples here to spoil the gear topic's or the forum in general or to upstage anyone, We are all here to help each other out thanks.
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holikujak
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Posted on May 26 2006 01:39 PM
hey, i have a little problem, the fuse thing was sticking out so i was fiddling with it trying to get it back in and now the amp wont power on, is this something i could do myself or should i bring it to an amp tech to fix? i was going to save bringing it to an anp tech to get a general check up on once i go on vacation in a month or too, but it might be a good idea to get it out the way now
also what does the ground switch do?
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Brian
Joined: Feb 25, 2006
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Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on May 26 2006 01:43 PM
The ground switch was useful back in the day when the US only had 2 prong outlets. While you are at your tech's, have him install a 3 prong plug for ya. Be safe!
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holikujak
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Posted on May 26 2006 01:46 PM
ive already got a 3 prong
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Brian
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Posted on May 26 2006 02:01 PM
In that case the ground switch is probably not even hooked up.
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WR
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
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netherlands
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Posted on May 26 2006 04:09 PM
holikujak
the fuse thing was sticking out so i was fiddling with it trying to get it back in and now the amp wont power on, is this something i could do myself or should i bring it to an amp tech to fix?
I don't entirely understand what you mean? If there's a fuse in the use holder, adn the fuse isn't blown and it still wont power up, how to proceed really depends on whether you know what you are doing.
eitherway, the fuse is there for a reason, never mess with it, don t even touch it with the amp plugged in. that beig said, since it's a newly bought amp, have you checked the fuse for correct size, type and so on?
WR
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holikujak
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Posted on May 26 2006 04:37 PM
no, im a novice when it comes to electronics, besides fiddling around with guitar wirings i dont really know much. i havnt sold my marshall yet so i think ill just bring it in and get a full check up and make sure everythings running right
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WR
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netherlands
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Posted on May 26 2006 04:52 PM
that's always a smart thing to do. I'd be interested in what a tech asks for a check up in the States?
WR
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diceophonic
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PacNW (Vancouver, Wa U.S.A.)
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Posted on Jul 10 2006 09:26 PM
Hey guys well I have had my bassman for a few months I had it serviced ,new tubes nos tone stacks,caps the works and backdated to AA864 and I have gigged with it many times and up until this saturday of places for this to happen @ a show half way through my set I noticed the decrease of volume and in thinking it was my guitar volume, nop that was untouched, speakers no they are new webers and how do I know the speakers work, I had to use The 'Verb's bandmaster, so anyways any ideas of why my volume would decrease, it's the first time it happened and also the next day I plugged my bassman and played for about an 1 and the volume did not decrease it stayed at where I always have it at, very strange????
is it power tubes??
pre amp tubes??
a cap???
output trans??
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dp
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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mojave desert, california
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Posted on Jul 11 2006 11:38 AM
holikujak
...also what does the ground switch do?
...back in the olden days of two-prong plugs on all the eqiuipment, the ground switch helped in these ways:
- it helped reduce humming
- it helped prevent unwanted shocks (ie: microphone shocks on the lips, getting shocked by other guitar players...etc.)
- it helped to make sure all your gear was "in-phase" as far as mains power goes (ie: your reverb unit, amp etc)...again helps prevent noise, shocks and possible damage.
if you have a three prong plug, your ground switch might be non-functional.
-dp
Last edited: Jul 11, 2006 12:56:06
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dp
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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mojave desert, california
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Posted on Jul 11 2006 11:41 AM
WR
that's always a smart thing to do. I'd be interested in what a tech asks for a check up in the States?
I recently had the DaveBassman looked at by the tech at Mojave Amps: he charged US $65 for an inspection and diagnosis (the "bench fee), and tube socket tighten-up.
-dp
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dp
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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mojave desert, california
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Posted on Jul 11 2006 11:45 AM
diceophonic
... I noticed the decrease of volume and in thinking it was my guitar volume...
could it be your ears?
sounds like you guys are playing at a fairly high sound level ("8" on the Bassman is sort of loud)
otherwise, I've never experienced this problem...perhaps the power rectifier is going out???
-dp
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diceophonic
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Posted on Jul 11 2006 01:16 PM
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dp
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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mojave desert, california
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Posted on Jul 11 2006 01:41 PM
diceophonic
you mean Solid State Rectifier right???
yes...solid state rectifier is what I was meaning...maybe if it's going out, you might get a "sag" in power levels (and volume levels) ...but, I am no amp tech...also, maybe power tubes...
it's an odd problem, I have never experienced it before...
maybe your local amp tech dude will have a clue?
good luck,
-dp
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dp
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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mojave desert, california
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Posted on Jul 11 2006 01:42 PM
be sure to keep us updated on what you find out....it sounds like an interesting amp phenomenon...
-dp
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diceophonic
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Posted on Jul 11 2006 07:46 PM
Yes my bassman head will be serviced next week and I also called the shop where it's going "Old town music" in down town Portland and the amp tech told me that it's possible that it could be the output trans but he would check the levels and test the output trans, he mentioned a bunch of other things but he said it's best for him to look at the guts and do the tests.
But I'll let you guys know what he finds out and what was replaced!
so other blackface/silverface/any other fender tube amp owners are informed of the "why" decrease of volume happens and what the fix is
and dp thanks for the feedback 
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