crumble wrote:

+1 on the Zoom but can you trust it for live performance. It's fiddly to setup and a guitar player really needs something he can switch no/off with little use of the brain.

No problems for me on the Zoom for live usage.
Over the past 3 or 4 years I've used it for Surf, Pop/Rock shows and even actual touring.

Cheers,
Jeff

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CrazyAces wrote:

crumble wrote:

+1 on the Zoom but can you trust it for live performance. It's fiddly to setup and a guitar player really needs something he can switch no/off with little use of the brain.

No problems for me on the Zoom for live usage.
Over the past 3 or 4 years I've used it for Surf, Pop/Rock shows and even actual touring.

Cheers,
Jeff

That's good to hear! I still have my MS-100BT (discontinued) I bought at a generous special offer price. To be honest I was looking for a fast tuner pedal, the Zoom has a really good tuner and a whole bunch more!!!!

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Vince_Ray wrote:

Anyone record with a zoom pedal? Obvy we love to turn a choice valve amp up and have it well mic'd up but that's not always an option

I bought my first Zoom for recording guitar, then liked the amp sims and cabinet sims so much that I got the bass-specific model. I don't have any samples to share, but for direct recording, these boxes can go a very long way toward simulating a surf "band" with different guitarists / different rigs.

I can't recommend this enough: since there's no such things as a 'blank patch,' overwrite & rename any existing patch, turn off or remove ALL of the effects "blocks," and then add amp and cab sims and tweak to taste.

Once you find a viable combination there, adding additional effects if needed is a breeze. There are some very fundamental, meat & potatoes tones possible with the Zoom modeling; it's not all bells & whistles.

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I second TGI's recommendation for a Rangemaster style treble boost. I actually use one of the overpriced models he alludes to (a Pigdog model called "the driver.")

Vince_Ray wrote:

Anyone record with a zoom pedal? Obvy we love to turn a choice valve amp up and have it well mic'd up but that's not always an option

Yes, in this video I'm using the Zoom G1Xon as the only source of effects, in a direct recording with no amplifier or microphone. The reverb effect is Springs63.

The audio track to this is at https://soundcloud.com/conswartz/waterfall-super-splashy-version

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Last edited: Jun 02, 2018 11:55:41

SilverFlash wrote:

Hi Conrad, That sounds great and really shows how splashy a G1Xon's reverb can get! And the recording quality is amazing.

Would you mind revealing the other effects, amps, and cabs you are using in your G1Xon chain? I would like to see how close I could get to dialing it in on my MS-50G.

Hi, Tim,
Thanks for your kind remarks.
The chain includes COMP compression, TREMOLO tremolo, FD combo amp, TAPE ECHO, and SPRINGS63.

In live performances I get the same tone as on my recordings. I use a bass guitar amp head to drive a neodymium PA speaker and piezo tweeter through a crossover network. The piezo tweeter adds enormously. Few guitar amps have tweeters.

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Squid wrote:
I like that video and you've persuaded me to indulge in one in spite of its fugly appearance.
Any live for theVox Stomplab anyone? Similar, as good or not?

Vince_Ray wrote:

Anyone record with a zoom pedal? Obvy we love to turn a choice valve amp up and have it well mic'd up but that's not always an option

Yes, in this video I'm using the Zoom G1Xon as the only source of effects, in a direct recording with no amplifier or microphone. The reverb effect is Springs63.

The audio track to this is at https://soundcloud.com/conswartz/waterfall-super-splashy-version

For gigs, I use my Klon clone, the BYOC Silver Pony. Clones or "inspired-by" pedals like the aforementioned Tumnus and Soul Food will shave a bit of bass off, give a nice, refined bump to the mids and range of grit is useful for vintage tones. These pedals are particularly useful when using smaller amps as it helps to reduce speaker flub and the boost to the mids makes it more intelligible (effectively making you louder in the mix if you want). They also can help with larger amps that you want to cook a bit but need to keep the volume low due to volume restrictions.
Disclaimer: a Klon/Klone pedal is an acquired taste. A lot of players buy them on the recommendations of other players but then bring them home and are not inspired. If a player does not gig, then I would not recommend the Klon/Klones. I tend not to use one at home but absolutely love it for live use. I will use it for garage-y instro like Link Wray but do not use it for Astronauts, Lively Ones covers, ect. because I prefer a cleaner tone. I also will use a Kingsley Page tube boost that has a gain knob on it. Lovely break-up/low OD sounds on that!

Lorne
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Vancouver BC Canada

Last edited: Jun 03, 2018 13:06:31

Love my Sonic Blue Twanger to push the amp
Great pedal

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Squid, I just wanted to say your post was compelling enough to convince me how to spend the balance of Amazon gift cards I got for Christmas, my Zoom G1xon showed up yesterday and I'm having a blast with it, given that I haven't yet even read the manual or tried some of the settings you recommend on another post about this unit. I can tell already that with just a bit of tweaking it will stand up very favorably to my Surfy Bear and vintage 6G15, and so cool to have a cheap portable option!

Which drum track were you using in your Waterfall demo?

Squid wrote:

Vince_Ray wrote:

Anyone record with a zoom pedal? Obvy we love to turn a choice valve amp up and have it well mic'd up but that's not always an option

Yes, in this video I'm using the Zoom G1Xon as the only source of effects, in a direct recording with no amplifier or microphone. The reverb effect is Springs63.

The audio track to this is at https://soundcloud.com/conswartz/waterfall-super-splashy-version

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