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Chippertheripper Joined: Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 819 Semass	Posted on Aug 31 2017 09:13 AM Shown with my reverb unit for size reference, and tilted because: duh. Edit: if you prefer the piggy-verb experience: Last edited: Aug 31, 2017 09:17:35 Top
DannySnyder Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 11011 Berkeley, CA	Posted on Aug 31 2017 09:17 AM Chippertheripper wrote: DannySnyder wrote: I'm sure the amp works fine for you guys. However, his goal is to ease the weight issue, and a 2x12 combo amp is F'n heavy. well, fine. mine is a single 12". It will triplet along without excessive sag. I'll get a photo up tomorrow. Nice rig Chipper, however I was referring to a Pro Reverb in my comment not a Bandmaster. — Danny Snyder Latest project - Now That's What I Call SURF _ "With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo I'm back playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Top
Chippertheripper Joined: Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 819 Semass	Posted on Aug 31 2017 09:17 AM Ahhh, gotcha. Top
Verbanator Joined: Sep 17, 2017 Posts: 5 Gatineau, Québec	Posted on Sep 30 2017 04:59 PM Removed. Last edited: Jun 24, 2018 18:19:00 Top
SixStringSurfer Joined: Sep 23, 2014 Posts: 1353 Memphis, TN	Posted on Nov 30 2017 03:07 PM Hey guys, I am about to have a 1x12 extension cabinet made in rough blonde and oxblood. I normally like a dog bone handle with that color scheme. The problem is, the Bandmaster head will not be able to sit on the cabinet with that handle. What type of handle do you guys normally have on your cabinet assuming it is the colors mentioned above? Thank you for your advice. — MooreLoud.com - A tribute to Dick Dale. New videos uploaded Top
WoodyJ Joined: Apr 05, 2006 Posts: 1534 Bethlehem, GA	Posted on Nov 30 2017 03:21 PM I have a flat (like the combo amps) Fender amp handle on both my Showman cabinets. Angela Instruments and other amp parts sources have them. Only a pathologically OCD amp aficionado like Eddie Katcher might notice the lack of prototypical correctness..... — Jack aka WoodyJ The Mariners (1964-68, 1996-2005) The Hula Hounds (1996-current) The X-Rays (1997-2004) The Surge! (2004, 2011-2012) Various non-surf bands that actually made money (1978-1990) Top
SixStringSurfer Joined: Sep 23, 2014 Posts: 1353 Memphis, TN	Posted on Nov 30 2017 03:41 PM Thanks Woody. Just curious, do you also have a flat handle on the head so they will match, or do you have a different type of handle on there? — MooreLoud.com - A tribute to Dick Dale. New videos uploaded Top
Richard Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 1674 Georgia	Posted on Nov 30 2017 04:38 PM I think the flat style handles are stronger than the dogbone style, but maybe that's only my impression. I purchased brown flat handles (meaning black-face style, but brown in color) for the stuff I plan on doing, which jives with late blonde-era amps. — The Mystery Men? El Capitan and The Reluctant Sadists SSS Agent #31 Top
WoodyJ Joined: Apr 05, 2006 Posts: 1534 Bethlehem, GA	Posted on Nov 30 2017 08:42 PM SixStringSurfer wrote: Thanks Woody. Just curious, do you also have a flat handle on the head so they will match, or do you have a different type of handle on there? A previous owner of my '62 Showman head had it recovered and whoever did it installed a later flat handle. This Summer I had it properly recovered by JD Newell (his shop is local) and I also had him install a brown dogbone handle and Mesa speaker cabinet rubber feet, since I don't use the docking hardware. The other head is a '67 that my pal Eddie Katcher redid in blonde & oxblood for me back in our X-Rays days. It also has a brown dogbone. Here's a pic of the '62 right after I got it hone from JD Newell's. He does top-notch work - I highly recommend him for amp cabinet building and recovering and his prices are super reasonable. — Jack aka WoodyJ The Mariners (1964-68, 1996-2005) The Hula Hounds (1996-current) The X-Rays (1997-2004) The Surge! (2004, 2011-2012) Various non-surf bands that actually made money (1978-1990) Top
skeeter Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 2062 Virginia, USA	Posted on Nov 30 2017 10:45 PM Sorry for the off topic, but I'm just curious, what's the story with the Crate badge on the Gomez tank? Chippertheripper wrote: — Paul Atomic Mosquitos Bug music for bug people is here! Killers from Space Last edited: Nov 30, 2017 22:51:30 Top
SixStringSurfer Joined: Sep 23, 2014 Posts: 1353 Memphis, TN	Posted on Jan 08 2018 03:55 PM Peter Mather is building me a closed back 1x12 cabinet in rough blonde and oxblood. I am trying to buy an Eminence Swamp Thang but I only see them available in 8 and 16 ohms. Doesn't a '63-'67 Bandmaster require a 4 ohm speaker for a 1x12? I have tried getting in touch with Eminence, but they act like they don't want my business. Any help or advice would be appreciated. — MooreLoud.com - A tribute to Dick Dale. New videos uploaded Top
JakeDobner Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle	Posted on Jan 08 2018 04:49 PM Richard wrote: I think the flat style handles are stronger than the dogbone style, but maybe that's only my impression. I purchased brown flat handles (meaning black-face style, but brown in color) for the stuff I plan on doing, which jives with late blonde-era amps. Original dogbone handles SHOULD NOT BE LIFTED BY. Reissues are just as strong as the flat handle lest ungodly forces were used on them (screws would likely fail first). Flat handle screws are stronger. Top
OaklandA Joined: Nov 01, 2017 Posts: 83 Arizona	Posted on Jan 09 2018 10:53 AM SixStringSurfer wrote: Peter Mather is building me a closed back 1x12 cabinet in rough blonde and oxblood. I am trying to buy an Eminence Swamp Thang but I only see them available in 8 and 16 ohms. Doesn't a '63-'67 Bandmaster require a 4 ohm speaker for a 1x12? I have tried getting in touch with Eminence, but they act like they don't want my business. Any help or advice would be appreciated. The Swamp Thang does not come in 4 ohms, but you could run the 8 ohm version with a Bandmaster and, while not optimal, it would work with the amp and not harm it. Ideally you should match impedance, but in a guitar amp you can get away with either doubling or halving with the load, so as low 2 ohms or high as 8 ohms with the Bandmaster. Don't exceed those limits or you could damage a transformer or worse. There are other options: 2x12(8ohm each) cab at 4 ohms (wired in parallel) Find a 12" other than Swamp Thang Go 1x15 or, to be invasive, have a tech replace the transformer with one that runs at 8 or 16 Top
Sonichris Joined: Mar 06, 2006 Posts: 1873 Wear gloves - I'm in the Rockies	Posted on Jan 09 2018 12:12 PM Here's my '63 Bandmaster head in a 1x15 cabinet I made a few years ago. It has a replacement bassman 4ohm output transformer, but I run an 8ohm 15" California in it. I've run it with the mismatch for several years, with no side effects that I can see or hear. If I had to do it over, I might have used a switchable 4/8ohm transformer when replacing the (bad)original, but I see no real need to do it now. One of my favorite amps was this '61 Bandmaster with the original 1x12" tone ring. It had the original 8ohm tranny in it after all these years, and it still work great. I loaded a 12" EVL in it, and it sounded absolutely fantastic. Another member on SG101 (ThomasD) has this amp now. — "You can't tell where you're going if you don't know where you've been" Last edited: Jan 09, 2018 12:15:27 Top
OaklandA Joined: Nov 01, 2017 Posts: 83 Arizona	Posted on Jan 09 2018 04:21 PM Sonichris - man, that combo is really nice. Really gorgeous. And from what I remember a blond Bandmaster through a D130, or Weber equivalent in this case, is something special. Top
Chippertheripper Joined: Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 819 Semass	Posted on Jan 09 2018 07:44 PM SixStringSurfer wrote: Peter Mather is building me a closed back 1x12 cabinet in rough blonde and oxblood. I am trying to buy an Eminence Swamp Thang but I only see them available in 8 and 16 ohms. Doesn't a '63-'67 Bandmaster require a 4 ohm speaker for a 1x12? I have tried getting in touch with Eminence, but they act like they don't want my business. Any help or advice would be appreciated. I run a Jensen c12n in 4ohms in my bandmaster combo. I don’t know particularly what the draw to a swamp thing is, so I can’t really compare for ya. Top
Matt22 Joined: Feb 15, 2007 Posts: 2813 Fredericksburg, Virginia	Posted on Jan 09 2018 08:22 PM You do great work, Chris. I've always wanted a Bandmaster combo amp and that looks sweet. On a side-note, I had the same early Bandmaster with the tone-ring at one time and I think Frankie of the Volcanics owns it now. Glad it's still in the surf community. From what I remember, that tone-ring cabinet sounded better to me than the 2-12s. I do have an extra Bandmaster cabinet that I'd like to turn into a tone-ring cab and put a single 4-ohm 12 in there. — Matt "tha Kat" Lentz Skippy and the Skipjacks: 2018- Skippyandtheskipjacks.net https://www.facebook.com/skippyandtheskipjacks Otto and the Ottomans: 2014-2015 The Coconauts surf band: 2009-2014 www.theamazingcoconauts.com Group Captain and the Mandrakes 2013 http://www.gcmband.com/ The Surfside IV: 2002-2005, 2008-2009 the Del-Vamps: 1992-1999, 2006-2007 http://www.dblcrown.com/delvamps.html Top
JakeDobner Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle	Posted on Jan 11 2018 01:51 AM Not quite related... Just bought a 6G6-B Bassman today, blonde/wheat. Very excited. Sold my Super Reverb. Top
murph Joined: Dec 16, 2010 Posts: 333 Chapel Hill, NC	Posted on Jan 11 2018 07:45 AM JakeDobner wrote: Not quite related... Just bought a 6G6-B Bassman today, blonde/wheat. Very excited. Sold my Super Reverb. Congratz! Pics or it didn't happen. -murph — http://www.reverbnation.com/elmiragesurf http://www.reverbnation.com/aminorconspiracy "I knew I was in trouble when the Coco-Loco tasted like water!" -- morphball Top
Matt22 Joined: Feb 15, 2007 Posts: 2813 Fredericksburg, Virginia	Posted on Jan 11 2018 08:02 AM JakeDobner wrote: Not quite related... Just bought a 6G6-B Bassman today, blonde/wheat. Very excited. Sold my Super Reverb. Congrats! Exactly like mine...and my favorite of my amps! — Matt "tha Kat" Lentz Skippy and the Skipjacks: 2018- Skippyandtheskipjacks.net https://www.facebook.com/skippyandtheskipjacks Otto and the Ottomans: 2014-2015 The Coconauts surf band: 2009-2014 www.theamazingcoconauts.com Group Captain and the Mandrakes 2013 http://www.gcmband.com/ The Surfside IV: 2002-2005, 2008-2009 the Del-Vamps: 1992-1999, 2006-2007 http://www.dblcrown.com/delvamps.html Top

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