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SHADOWNIGHT5150 Joined: Jul 14, 2013 Posts: 333	Posted on Aug 09 2016 01:58 AM im stating to have my own problems now, i had a bass and drums. now the drummer flaked and the bass now says he wants to be the guitar player. i am the guitar player. so now i have to find a drummer and bass player Top
DonKiyote Joined: Aug 26, 2014 Posts: 138 Kent	Posted on Aug 09 2016 02:15 AM Cheer up! “Nothing in the world is worth having or worth doing unless it means effort, pain, difficulty… I have never in my life envied a human being who led an easy life. I have envied a great many people who led difficult lives and led them well.” — Wherever you go, there you are http://rogerfowles.co.uk/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKUsTNis44w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKauwombaC8 Top
BC4DdrummerAK Joined: Oct 07, 2012 Posts: 66 Anchorage, Alaska	Posted on Aug 09 2016 12:15 PM SHADOWNIGHT5150 wrote: im stating to have my own problems now, i had a bass and drums. now the drummer flaked and the bass now says he wants to be the guitar player. i am the guitar player. so now i have to find a drummer and bass player That doesn't sound like too bad of a problem..well the drummer maybe. It seems drummers...good drummers...are a hot commodity in any town. But your bassist wants to play guitar? You do realize most of the classic surf bands had two, sometimes three guitarists, right? Songs like 'Moving Target'(first thing that came to mind)sounds ballsy as hell because of the rhythm guitarist doing his thing under Jon Blair's lead stuff. Problem solved! Unless he's looking to be a lead guy...then it may be a problem for you. Anyway. See if you can work out some cool stuff with your bassist playing guitar? And best of luck on a drummer. But hey, speaking as a drummer who CAME FROM A METAL BAND previously, you may find a really kick ass drummer in a different scene, who may want to expand his or her horizons and try something new. — Gear:Kit:Pearl Reference series in Emerald Fade,Pearl rack,Pearl Demon Drive pedals,Tama Iron Cobra hi-hat stand, Sabian & UFiP cymbals. Top
SHADOWNIGHT5150 Joined: Jul 14, 2013 Posts: 333	Posted on Aug 09 2016 07:27 PM I just started back from scratch Found a guitar friend who wants to play bass and a drummer who wants to play Top
Kommetjie Joined: Jul 15, 2011 Posts: 7	Posted on Aug 16 2016 08:48 PM Stevel wrote: "What happens when you show up, with your part down, that may have taken you 6 hours to figure out, then an hour or more a night practicing to get it under your fingers, but the bass player doesn't know the changes? Or the rhythm guitarist hasn't even learned it?" Sounds depressingly familiar . . . However, it occurred to me that online collaboration via the magic of the internet and free recording software could be a creative outlet for budding surf guitarists. Pretty sure this subject must have been brought up before, I, for one, would like to give it a try with like-minded individuals in my situation . . . would be surf guitar hobbyists without any formal training on the wrong side of 60! Surf guitar for two, anyone? Top
JakeDobner Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle	Posted on Aug 16 2016 09:06 PM "What happens when you show up, with your part down, that may have taken you 6 hours to figure out, then an hour or more a night practicing to get it under your fingers, but the bass player doesn't know the changes? Or the rhythm guitarist hasn't even learned it?" Also, when this happens what is everyone's reaction? Are you offering to help people learn the parts? If you aren't, you would be surprised at what offering will do. Top
SHADOWNIGHT5150 Joined: Jul 14, 2013 Posts: 333	Posted on Aug 16 2016 09:22 PM I don't offer free music lessons Top
JakeDobner Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle	Posted on Aug 16 2016 10:18 PM Good luck finding a band! Top
SHADOWNIGHT5150 Joined: Jul 14, 2013 Posts: 333	Posted on Aug 17 2016 12:20 AM In a professional setting you better have your part down when you go to a practice. If they have to wait on you to figure out your part that could of been learned at home then obviously you are not that serious about it and they will find someone who is Top
el_camello Joined: Jul 04, 2010 Posts: 369 Ottawa	Posted on Aug 17 2016 09:59 AM Finding musician's for surf is extremely hard. Took me many years to find band members. Getting someone interested in surf is a HARD SELL and I truly sympathize. Here's what I learned: You have to be patient and supportive or you will lose band mates. You have to enthusiastically offer help. You have to take the lead and pace the band. Guide them through the surf style and your vision but let them bring some of their personality to their approach. Give them free guitar lessons, with non-condescending respect of course. If they refuse your help... then you consider getting rid of them! Eventually it'll start sounding better and better and will be funner and funner and every new song you try will be easier and easier. I agree it is frustrating when you put in way more work than the others before a practice but you can't expect a professional setting with a newly formed surf band. YOU want a surf band, not them (at least not yet!). Sometimes you have to waste time at band practice showing someone chord changes and that's ok. If you are positive about helping out it will go a long way. I'd start with just finding ONE person (so lead + bass or rhythm guitar) and jamming for a while. Learn some songs and solidify the "surfness" of the band. Let the other choose some surf songs to cover. Then add a drummer and jam for a while. Then the other bass/guitar. You'll always be adding someone to something established forcing them to catch up a bit and learn a fair amount of material. To show up to practice not knowing your parts is one thing... to show up to practice and being the ONLY one who doesn't know his parts is something else. Punk musicians are surf musicians in training. Good luck! — -Pierre The Obsidians! (Ottawa surf) The Obsidians debut EP Top
SixStringSurfer Joined: Sep 23, 2014 Posts: 1350 Memphis, TN	Posted on Aug 17 2016 02:43 PM Excellent post, el_camello. That should be made into a sticky. — MooreLoud.com - A tribute to Dick Dale. Last edited: Aug 17, 2016 14:43:48 Top
tahitijack Joined: Nov 03, 2006 Posts: 690 San Clemente, CA	Posted on Aug 18 2016 12:09 PM I often wonder why those that are looking to join or start a band don't include their location in their profile. Even saying you live in SoCal is useless since that could be Northridge, Whittier, Riverside or Dana Point. — Happy Sunsets! Top
BC4DdrummerAK Joined: Oct 07, 2012 Posts: 66 Anchorage, Alaska	Posted on Aug 18 2016 07:03 PM el_camello wrote: Punk musicians are surf musicians in training. Good luck! Great post all the way around El Camello!!I wanted to highlight that last part because, oddly enough, there is some truth to that statement. The guy who founded my band had a background in Punk, Hardcore and Ska before settling on surf. When I joined the band, I was just coming off of a few years playing with an extreme metal band. A buddy of mine from California plays some damn good surf music, loves it and is influenced by it, but otherwise his "day job" musically speaking is face melting thrash and death metal. You'll find interested musicians in a few different genres, if you really look hard enough. You just have to go outside of whatever your comfort zone I suppose. — Gear:Kit:Pearl Reference series in Emerald Fade,Pearl rack,Pearl Demon Drive pedals,Tama Iron Cobra hi-hat stand, Sabian & UFiP cymbals. Last edited: Aug 18, 2016 19:03:56 Top
BC4DdrummerAK Joined: Oct 07, 2012 Posts: 66 Anchorage, Alaska	Posted on Aug 18 2016 07:06 PM And to further my last post, you can't watch the guys in Daikaiju and tell me that they HAVE NOT played metal at some point in their lives. Some of their riffs have a metal edge to them, for sure. — Gear:Kit:Pearl Reference series in Emerald Fade,Pearl rack,Pearl Demon Drive pedals,Tama Iron Cobra hi-hat stand, Sabian & UFiP cymbals. Top
SHADOWNIGHT5150 Joined: Jul 14, 2013 Posts: 333	Posted on Aug 21 2016 12:36 PM I'm starting a surf band with country and classic rock guys Top
GregEL Joined: Mar 16, 2016 Posts: 217 Highland CA	Posted on Aug 21 2016 12:48 PM Worked for the Blue Stingrays... Top
BC4DdrummerAK Joined: Oct 07, 2012 Posts: 66 Anchorage, Alaska	Posted on Aug 24 2016 02:22 PM SHADOWNIGHT5150 wrote: I'm starting a surf band with country and classic rock guys There you go! You'll probably have yourself a good, solid base to work off of then. — Gear:Kit:Pearl Reference series in Emerald Fade,Pearl rack,Pearl Demon Drive pedals,Tama Iron Cobra hi-hat stand, Sabian & UFiP cymbals. Top
CaptainSensible Joined: Nov 08, 2006 Posts: 643 Leesburg, VA	Posted on Aug 24 2016 02:57 PM Wait, the 3rd chord in Louie Louie is Minor???!!! — Sean Top
CaptainSensible Joined: Nov 08, 2006 Posts: 643 Leesburg, VA	Posted on Aug 24 2016 03:11 PM Frankly, I wish I had one or two other folks to jam with, even if they were a pain in the ass most days. At least it would be something to work with. — Sean Top
mom_surfing Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 5267 the outer banks of north carolina	Posted on Aug 24 2016 03:56 PM CaptainSensible wrote: Frankly, I wish I had one or two other folks to jam with, even if they were a pain in the ass most days. At least it would be something to work with. i have no one where i live to play with either, just a few friends that come into town every now and then — www.surfintheeye.com Top

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