ShaunNecro
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Posted on Aug 10 2007 10:16 AM
I know somewhat how to play it. It's hard to really tell since it's not really upfront. But I think having your own take on a line like that is cool too.
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JoshHeartless
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Posted on Aug 10 2007 10:43 AM
i have a pretty good idea of how to play it. anyone want my tab?
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pineapple_geoff
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Posted on Aug 15 2007 09:15 PM
I would love to have a look at your tab.
Thanks,
PG
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JoshHeartless
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Posted on Aug 16 2007 01:48 PM
ok, ill get it to you soon. just gotta write it out.
it's not perfect, but it's what i can hear, and it is accurate enough to play along with the actual recording, but my cd player doesnt have a good eq so i can't single out the bass very well.
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JoshHeartless
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Posted on Aug 16 2007 07:02 PM
Intro
G|-------------------------------------|
D|-------------------------------------|
A|-------------------------------------|
E|-55555555-33333333-11111111-00000000-|
Verse
G|-----------------------------------|
D|-------------------7-9-10---7-9-10-|
A|-------5-------5-8--------8--------|
E|-5-7-8---5-7-8---------------------|
G|---------------------------------|
D|---------------------------------|
A|-7-------7-5-----------5-7-5-----|
E|---4-7-8-----8-7-5-7-8-------8-7-|
G|-----------------------------------|
D|-------------------7-9-10---7-9-10-|
A|-------5-------5-8--------8--------|
E|-5-7-8---5-7-8---------------------|
G|---------------------------------|
D|---------------------------------|
A|-7-------7-5-----------5-------5-|
E|---4-7-8-----8-7-5-7-8---5-7-8---|
Bridge
G|-------------------------7-5-4---|
D|---------7-5-4-----4-5-7-------7-|
A|-----5-8-------7-5---------------|
E|-5-8-----------------------------|
G|------------------------------------|
D|-------------3----------------------|
A|---2-3-5-3h5---5-30-------5-7-5-----|
E|-3------------------0-4-8-------8-7-|
actually, during the first two measures of the verse, when i wrote down the run over the A chord, i think he actually just plays A all the way through that, no walk along or variation, but the way i wrote it fits. keep in mind i figured this out with an acoustic guitar and without being able to EQ it too well. enjoy, any critisism is appreciated.
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pineapple_geoff
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Posted on Aug 16 2007 09:26 PM
Cool !
I doubt it makes much difference, but which version were you listening to Lively Ones or the Ventures ?
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JoshHeartless
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Posted on Aug 17 2007 10:06 AM
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Posted on Aug 18 2007 09:49 PM
hey brian, how many more tabs do i need to contribute to the forums to be promoted from "reverb enthusiast" to "tab guy" or something like that? i think this is my third so far, ha.
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pineapple_geoff
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Posted on Aug 19 2007 10:43 PM
I know it's a big ask, but maybe you already have it ?
You wouldn't happen to have a sound file of you playing the bass line (without the guitars) ?
Iâll just play it on my laptop.
Thanks again,
Geoff
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JoshHeartless
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Posted on Aug 20 2007 12:12 PM
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WR
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Posted on Aug 23 2007 04:41 AM
I finally had a chance to listen to this on my stereo (aot crappy pc speakers) with bass pumped up, and Im pretty sure the tab's not entirly right.
on the intro, he plays riff-notes along with theguitar, though he doesn't actually follow him.
On the Am he goes up to the 5th for sure, through a flat 5th, on the F the tab's right but on the E he goes up, not down, as with the other chords, I think it's the same run over all chords except the turnouround, on the run back he uses a major 3th (c#) just like the intro has.
the bridge part sounds to me he uses the same kinda runds, but with an A major 3th which makes sense, and he throws in 16ths in the end.
hard to make out though. are we listening to the same version at all? Lively ones as appeared on the Pulp Fiction soundtrack?
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ShaunNecro
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Posted on Aug 23 2007 09:44 AM
Yeah, I think you were, but he doesn't have any ability to eq on his stereo, so he can't really make out the bass too well.
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JoshHeartless
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Posted on Aug 23 2007 11:46 AM
yeah, we are listening to the same version. on top of the fact that i cannot EQ my stereo well, also keep in mind i was tabbing all this out on a acoustic guitar, so getting the pitches right wasnt my strong point. i know on the bridge i messed up when i was writing the tab, because i had just done it from memory.
it's also hard, because the rhythm guitar has a lot of low-end, so it's easy to get it mixed up with the bass, that
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WR
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Posted on Aug 23 2007 01:56 PM
yeah I know, I wasnt critizing, these things work best anyway with multiple sets of ears. Its a shame those lively ones recordings have such a hard to hear bass - Ron Griffith's one of the best surf bass players afaic.... very much in the style of sixties garage, very similar to the Outsiders bass playing, Ron Splinter, maybe it's got something to do with being called Ron?
I saw your accoustic, you have a pic of it on your myspace. cute pic 
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pineapple_geoff
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Posted on Aug 23 2007 11:49 PM
Thanks for your thoughts guys. It's great being able to run something past some wiser minds. I started trying to learn it last weekend. Iâll have another go at it this weekend.
Most of my problems probably originate from the fact Iâm trying to listen to this on my laptop, which is not going to help much bass wise at all.
And yes, Iâm talking about the Lively Ones, Pulp Fiction soundtrack version.
Thanks,
PG
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JoshHeartless
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Posted on Aug 24 2007 01:18 PM
WR
I saw your accoustic, you have a pic of it on your myspace. cute pic 
aww jeez, i'm blushing. haha.
pc4pc? lolz omg!
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pineapple_geoff
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Posted on Aug 26 2007 10:15 PM
OK guys. Had a chance to sit down with a beer and the bass yesterday and try to get my head around this.
Just a couple more questionsâ¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦.
WR
E he goes up, not down, as with the other chords
But heâs still playing E G# B and C ?
WR
I think it's the same run over all chords except the turnaround, on the run back he uses a major 3th (c#) just like the intro has
2 things â which bit is the âturnaroundâ ? whenâs he playing the major 3th (c#), what chord is the guitarist playing then ?
WR
the bridge part sounds to me he uses the same kinda runds, but with an A major 3th which makes sense, and he throws in 16ths in the end.
Heâs playing the A major 3th, while the guitarist is playing the A 7 chord in the bridge ? (âcos A7 is a major chord)
Heâs playing a straight 4 crotchets a bar most of the time ? Like, for example, in the bass line for âComancheâ (well, most of the time in âComancheâ !)
(I actually have the complete guitar tablature for this. Rhythm and lead. If itâs not highly illegal in your country Iâm more than happy to scan it and pots it. I think if itâs for scholarship, that's OK ?)
Thanks again !
PG
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WR
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Posted on Aug 27 2007 02:17 PM
pineapplegeoff_
OK guys. Had a chance to sit down with a beer and the bass yesterday and try to get my head around this.
Just a couple more questionsâ¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦.
WR
E he goes up, not down, as with the other chords
But heâs still playing E G# B and C ?
if he's playing the same riff (Which I seem to hear but put a disclaimer on everything I say) that would be E G# Bb B going up.
WR
I think it's the same run over all chords except the turnaround, on the run back he uses a major 3th (c#) just like the intro has
2 things â which bit is the âturnaroundâ ? whenâs he playing the major 3th (c#), what chord is the guitarist playing then ?
my bad, I use the term turnaround for about every riff chord or set of chords or bassrun that brings things back to the root/tonica. yeah I think he plays E D C# B A there over the (second half of the) E - actually the C# is a (major) 6th over the E which makes sense, but it's a major third of the A while the chord in that part is A minor. the same things happens in the intro, you hget the happy "walk back"and then the minor chord - a weird kinda cool twist.
WR
the bridge part sounds to me he uses the same kinda runds, but with an A major 3th which makes sense, and he throws in 16ths in the end.
Heâs playing the A major 3th, while the guitarist is playing the A 7 chord in the bridge ? (âcos A7 is a major chord)
yup, but he does some wild stuff too in the bridge. Im not listening to it now, my wife's working on the opposite computer.
Heâs playing a straight 4 crotchets a bar most of the time ? Like, for example, in the bass line for âComancheâ (well, most of the time in âComancheâ !)
I dont really know what crotchets are and I dont recall the bass for Comanche (or the melody, or anything, to be honst) but Im going to guess yes ... he plays four on the beat, walking bass style, most of the time.
(I actually have the complete guitar tablature for this. Rhythm and lead. If itâs not highly illegal in your country Iâm more than happy to scan it and pots it. I think if itâs for scholarship, that's OK ?)
I really appreciate the offer, Im sure the cops won't arrest me for it, but I dont have any use for it. thanks though. Im glad you started this thread, Im digging the lively ones' bass more then ever.
Say, what's with the pineapple? you're a pineapple farmer?
WR
PS, I spent more time getting the > codes right then typing in this post 
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Posted on Aug 28 2007 12:34 AM
Muchos gracias !
I wear Hawaiian shirts a lot (and Iâm sure I ainât the only person in this chat room doing that !) and when I was in New Zealand, I worked with a Samoan guy (a country with a very big thing for Hawaiian shirts, albeit extra large). It was his nickname for me.
You think doing the quotes are bad, try trying to post a photo !
After all this help, guys, I so much promise to learn to play this songâ¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦.
(well, the bass line. I can already play the guitar line.)
Thanks again,
PG
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Posted on Oct 08 2007 12:01 AM
So last weekend, I finally found the time to take a really good look at the âSurf Riderâ bass line, as explained by you guys. The song is in Am, which has no flats or sharps, but many of the chords played have flats and sharps (an example being the E chord).
Anyways, a couple of questions â
The bass line appears to follow the notes in the key (rather than the chords) mostly but the notes played over each specific bar actually tend to follow the notes from that particular chord (usually ascending).
- Why doesnât he just follow the notes from the chords ? Would this sound weird ? why ?
- Is this how bass lines normally go ? Follow the key rather than the chords ?
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