BillAqua
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 1054
Chicago IL.
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Posted on Jul 08 2013 08:32 PM
JakeDobner wrote:
As a person who has stated they don't like the Ventures, a person could still get rid of the filler and put together like three-five albums of solid material. Some great, some good, some okay, some bad, some awful. At the end of the day, I'm an album person so that is where I judge ultimately.
What I'm trying to say is... the Ventures are the Rolling Stones. If they all could have been Mother's Little Helpers or Paint It Black, but they couldn't!
So it comes down to the albums? I guess I see your point. But albums weren't really a thing until the mid 60s anyway. Atleast rock and roll "albums" that were kicked off by the Beatles with Rubber Soul and the Beach Boys Pet Sounds. That turned into what we refer to "albums" in today's sense. So much good music was released in the 50s and early 60s that never made it to albums.
Everyone keeps pointing out Ventures in Space.
I think the Ventures beat a majority of the big "album" making bands of the 60s with that one.
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BillAqua
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 1054
Chicago IL.
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Posted on Jul 08 2013 08:35 PM
wooza wrote:
It's all primo stuff. Preston, I'll reiterate that Live in Japan is a great place to start. That was my doorway into appreciating the Ventures more. To bring this thread slightly back on topic, I'll mention that playing surf with humbuckers is hard to do well, and easy to do crappy. Live in Japan is a perfect example of the best alternative - get your grit by 1) playing your ass off and 2) doing it through a saturated Showman. The guys sound amazing on that record!
What's hard about playing surf on a guitar with humbuckers? 
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wooza
Joined: Apr 24, 2006
Posts: 1618
Ithaca, NY
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Posted on Jul 08 2013 09:29 PM
BillAqua wrote:
What's hard about playing surf on a guitar with humbuckers?
Oops, I didn't mean harder to play, but harder to get an appropriate tone for surf. I agree with Danny's comment back on the first page that humbuckers give out a tone that fills the space differently, which may not work well in a surf setting.
I know lots of guys play surf with humbuckers, often in bands with styles that are trying to sound a bit more aggressive (naturally). I dunno, that sound doesn't always work for me in a surf context. Sometimes it suits a song well, but often when I hear some bands playing distorted surf it feels like a cop-out to me, like playing with humbuckers (or any overtly distorted surf lead) somehow makes a song heavier or edgier. I don't necessarily buy that. The song itself should be heavy, and if the pickups can improve that vibe, then go for it.
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CaptainSpringfield
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 4387
Under the Sun
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Posted on Jul 09 2013 05:25 AM
PrestonRice wrote:
the fact that they have written hardly anything in the span of their many, many years
"Journey to the Stars"
"Hot Line"
"Stop Action"
"Ravin' Blue"
"Guitar Freakout"
"Fuzzy and Wild"
"The Ninth Wave"
"The Creeper"
"Ten Over"
"Changing Tides"
"Party in Laguna"
"Barefoot Venture"
"The Cruncher"
"Driving Guitars"
"Twisted"
"Instant Guitars"
"Counterpoint"
"Kicking Around"
"He Never Came Back"
"Exploration in Terror"
"Solar Race"
"The Switch"
"No Trespassing"
"The McCoy"
"Peach Fuzz"
"Night Walk"
"Pedal Pusher"
"A Go-Go Dancer"
"Psychedelic Venture"
"Runnin' Wild"
"Scratchin'"
"Ad-Venture"
"Ginza Lights"
"Zocko"
"Joker's Wild"
"The Cape"
"007-11"
"Vamp Camp"
"High and Dry"
"Off in the 93rds"
"Mod East"
"Paper Airplane"
"Wild Child"
"Wild Trip"
"How Now Wild Cow"
"Wild Cat"
"Guitar Psychedelics"
"Reflections"
"Endless Dream"
"Psyched Out"
"1999 A.D."
That's from a seven year span when they were touring constantly.
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horax
Joined: Mar 23, 2011
Posts: 518
colorado springs
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Posted on Jul 09 2013 11:47 AM
Anybody know where I can pick up the Astronauts' albums?
Can't find anything on Amazon/iTunes.
Love their sound!
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caddady
Joined: Feb 14, 2010
Posts: 802
N.E. Ohio
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Posted on Jul 09 2013 12:19 PM
amazon link horax wrote:
Anybody know where I can pick up the Astronauts' albums?
Can't find anything on Amazon/iTunes.
Love their sound!
And my 2cents worth on humbuckers is yea sure,use them, just use your ears. My parts as rhythm guitar work out well with a humbucker as long as it's not too hot and I keep it clean, I have rehearsed with single hb guitars with only a volume control. As long as I kept the volume backed off on the guitar it would complement the lead guitar nicley, the lead using a strat/tele/jazzmaster. We tried a Kay Thin Twin on lead last week and I ran a strat. The kay was a bit darker so I ran on the bridge pickup to fill the topend.
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Mr_Reverb63
Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 919
San Pablo, CA
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Posted on Aug 05 2013 11:01 PM
CaptainSpringfield wrote:
PrestonRice wrote:
the fact that they have written hardly anything in the span of their many, many years
"Journey to the Stars"
"Hot Line"
"Stop Action"
"Ravin' Blue"
"Guitar Freakout"
"Fuzzy and Wild"
"The Ninth Wave"
"The Creeper"
"Ten Over"
"Changing Tides"
"Party in Laguna"
"Barefoot Venture"
"The Cruncher"
"Driving Guitars"
"Twisted"
"Instant Guitars"
"Counterpoint"
"Kicking Around"
"He Never Came Back"
"Exploration in Terror"
"Solar Race"
"The Switch"
"No Trespassing"
"The McCoy"
"Peach Fuzz"
"Night Walk"
"Pedal Pusher"
"A Go-Go Dancer"
"Psychedelic Venture"
"Runnin' Wild"
"Scratchin'"
"Ad-Venture"
"Ginza Lights"
"Zocko"
"Joker's Wild"
"The Cape"
"007-11"
"Vamp Camp"
"High and Dry"
"Off in the 93rds"
"Mod East"
"Paper Airplane"
"Wild Child"
"Wild Trip"
"How Now Wild Cow"
"Wild Cat"
"Guitar Psychedelics"
"Reflections"
"Endless Dream"
"Psyched Out"
"1999 A.D."
That's from a seven year span when they were touring constantly.
 
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PrestonRice
Joined: Oct 05, 2012
Posts: 1725
Austin, Texas
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Posted on Aug 26 2013 07:36 AM
Stumbled across a relevant quote:
Rip Thrillby:
Humbuckers suck.
That is all.
— IMO.
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Aug 26 2013 10:05 AM
My PAF-style in my ES-355 and my Minibuckers in my Sheraton... They aren't as hot as Mosrite Pickups or a number of other single coil pickups. I certainly get less breakup with those guitars than some Fenders/certainly Mosrites/a lot of other guitars. They are really in Jazzmaster/Jaguar range, just a little hotter. The tone is fatter on Humbuckers, that I can tell you.
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psychonaut
Joined: Dec 08, 2007
Posts: 1305
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Posted on Aug 26 2013 01:00 PM
PrestonRice wrote:
Stumbled across a relevant quote:
Rip Thrillby:
Humbuckers suck.
That is all.
That is a completeley ridiculous statement
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PrestonRice
Joined: Oct 05, 2012
Posts: 1725
Austin, Texas
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Posted on Aug 26 2013 04:26 PM
psychonaut wrote:
PrestonRice wrote:
Stumbled across a relevant quote:
Rip Thrillby:
Humbuckers suck.
That is all.
That is a completeley ridiculous statement.
No sh!t, Sherlock. 
— IMO.
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psychonaut
Joined: Dec 08, 2007
Posts: 1305
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Posted on Aug 26 2013 05:03 PM
PrestonRice wrote:
No sh!t, Sherlock.
Then why post it? My name isn't Sherlock. so ease up on the sarcasm please.
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PrestonRice
Joined: Oct 05, 2012
Posts: 1725
Austin, Texas
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Posted on Aug 26 2013 07:26 PM
psychonaut wrote:
PrestonRice wrote:
No sh!t, Sherlock.
Then why post it?
It was a post in Rip's old "Shallow End" musings. It struck me as funny, and relevant. That's it.
— IMO.
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Squid
Joined: Aug 22, 2010
Posts: 1019
Portland, Oregon with Insanitizers
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Posted on Jul 12 2023 11:37 PM
My new headless guitar with active Chinese EMG pickups gets an extremely surfy tone in this new Insanitizers draft recording, "Surf Blast."
https://soundcloud.com/conswartz/surf-blast?si=6cb6d107fd1a4adcb30f0c81307682d9&utm_
This recording is of one guitar, bass and drums. It uses two-way glissandos (up then down), hammer-ons, and rapid 8th note bass lines that add to the frenzy. The headless guitar's vibrato is easy, ultra-smooth and very sensitive.
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