What strings for a SGV?

ludobag

Joined: Jun 05, 2010
Posts: 620
at south of
France

Posted on Jun 11 2012 11:38 AM

thanks
not of the trem arm there is a screws on side for that,
and i have always this manual no explaination of this 2 screws

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Achtane

Joined: May 23, 2010
Posts: 14
Virginia Beach, VA

Posted on Jun 11 2012 03:56 PM

bjoish wrote:

Achtane wrote:

I found some thin brass strips like Sonichris described on a hobby shop's eBay page...I also bought some .10 Chromes. Hopefully this double whammy will take care of things, I'll post again with results.

I look forward to it
Please attach a photo !

Just got the strips today, but the strings haven't arrived yet. I added the third spring anyway (still using .11 Chromes) and it really does make a big difference. I angled the claw in an attempt to counter the tension of the bass strings and it's doing great.

Bam!

Bam!

Bam!

Good to go! It could use a little more tweaking but it's already sooo much better. It used to go 1/2 step out of tune if I did anything with the trem bar, now I can really crank the bar and after a lot of flailing around like that it's only just slightly off, which can be corrected by lightly moving the bar in the opposite direction. If you don't abuse it, it doesn't even go out of tune. With .10s it'd probably be perfect.
Thanks a lot for the tip, guys. Before this I was planning on just blocking the tremolo.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180795173826?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Here are the strips I bought; tin cutters work just fine. I broke two cheap drill bits trying to make the holes though

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bjoish

Joined: Jul 06, 2010
Posts: 596
Stockholm
Sweden

Posted on Jun 15 2012 04:33 PM

Thanks alot for posting the pictures.
I will do a similar mod on my SGV!

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Achtane

Joined: May 23, 2010
Posts: 14
Virginia Beach, VA

Posted on Jun 16 2012 01:15 AM

Good luck. A slightly thicker piece of brass might be a good idea, just to keep it stable.
I was re-stringing with with .10 Chromes and the brass strip somehow ended up sideways in the middle of the trem cavity...so I had to loosen the claw and reset it. It was fine...but...

...but then the damn trem arm broke off in the bridge. It wasn't the official SGV arm, so it never fit quite right.
Man. Anyone ever dealt with that?

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bjoish

Joined: Jul 06, 2010
Posts: 596
Stockholm
Sweden

Posted on Jun 18 2012 01:55 PM

ludobag wrote:

what is the goal of the 2 screws in the red circle ?
to ajust the high of tremplate ?

Those screws are used for attaching the top part of the tremolo to the tremolo block underneath.
I would not recommend any adjustment without first removing the springs and the strings!

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FritzCat

Joined: Sep 11, 2007
Posts: 676
Sonoma, CA
9 Security Pins

Posted on Jun 18 2012 02:12 PM

The original arms are still available from Yamaha, the part # is QC541101 and it's about $38 with shipping from www.yamaha24x7.com

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Richard

Joined: Mar 02, 2006
Posts: 1683
Georgia
United States

Posted on Jul 04 2012 09:21 AM

I recently got in a 3-pack of high tension trem springs from Floyd Upgrades. I loosened the strings on my SGV and replaced the two stock springs with two of these, which actually pulled the trem too far in the opposite direction! I was irked. After a few minutes I decided to just try one, and viola, the trem sat straight and the arm is at a much more useable angle. I put the stiff spring on the bass side and put the stock string back on the treble side.

—

The Mystery Men?
El Capitan and The Reluctant Sadists
SSS Agent #31

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bjoish

Joined: Jul 06, 2010
Posts: 596
Stockholm
Sweden

Posted on Jul 31 2012 07:40 AM

This is my trem solution. I went to the hardware store and bought 10mm square metal pipe. I drilled a 3mm hole in the trem posts and added new M3 threads.

image
image

Seems to work perfectly. No problem now to use 011 strings

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Achtane

Joined: May 23, 2010
Posts: 14
Virginia Beach, VA

Posted on Oct 31 2012 11:07 PM

I ordered a set of .13 Chromes...I have my doubts as to whether they'll even fit in the rollers or not.
If so then I'm going for SGV baritone tuning.

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surferXmatt

Joined: Aug 27, 2008
Posts: 1570
New York
United States

Posted on Nov 01 2012 09:18 AM

When I owned this guitar, I used 10's and thought they worked well.

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mad_dog

Joined: Sep 23, 2008
Posts: 349
Montclair, NJ

Posted on Nov 01 2012 09:33 AM

I had .11s on my SGV 800, which had been modded with a third trem string by my tech friend. It helped stabilize the trem, and eliminated problems with higher string gauges. BTW, that guitar felt and played much better with .11s, after coming to me with .10s.
MD

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HallmarkSweptWinger

Joined: Jul 27, 2006
Posts: 1284
Berlinesia, Germanifornia
9 POTD Pins

Posted on Jun 11 2014 11:10 AM

Next friday we are gonna play here in Berlin together with the Tijuana Panthers from Long Beach.
I decided to play SGV300. So I just put new strings on my white SGV300 (after 4 years).
Actually I use: 12 - 16 - 22 (plain) - 32 - 42 - 52
Plays very good! No problems.

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Twang cheers!

Ralf Kilauea

www.kilaueas.de

https://kilaueas.bandcamp.com/album/touch-my-alien

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ludobag Joined: Jun 05, 2010 Posts: 620 at south of	Posted on Jun 11 2012 11:38 AM thanks not of the trem arm there is a screws on side for that, and i have always this manual no explaination of this 2 screws Top
Achtane Joined: May 23, 2010 Posts: 14 Virginia Beach, VA	Posted on Jun 11 2012 03:56 PM bjoish wrote: Achtane wrote: I found some thin brass strips like Sonichris described on a hobby shop's eBay page...I also bought some .10 Chromes. Hopefully this double whammy will take care of things, I'll post again with results. I look forward to it Please attach a photo ! Just got the strips today, but the strings haven't arrived yet. I added the third spring anyway (still using .11 Chromes) and it really does make a big difference. I angled the claw in an attempt to counter the tension of the bass strings and it's doing great. Bam! Bam! Bam! Good to go! It could use a little more tweaking but it's already sooo much better. It used to go 1/2 step out of tune if I did anything with the trem bar, now I can really crank the bar and after a lot of flailing around like that it's only just slightly off, which can be corrected by lightly moving the bar in the opposite direction. If you don't abuse it, it doesn't even go out of tune. With .10s it'd probably be perfect. Thanks a lot for the tip, guys. Before this I was planning on just blocking the tremolo. http://www.ebay.com/itm/180795173826?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 Here are the strips I bought; tin cutters work just fine. I broke two cheap drill bits trying to make the holes though Last edited: Jun 11, 2012 15:59:34 Top
bjoish Joined: Jul 06, 2010 Posts: 596 Stockholm	Posted on Jun 15 2012 04:33 PM Thanks alot for posting the pictures. I will do a similar mod on my SGV! Top
Achtane Joined: May 23, 2010 Posts: 14 Virginia Beach, VA	Posted on Jun 16 2012 01:15 AM Good luck. A slightly thicker piece of brass might be a good idea, just to keep it stable. I was re-stringing with with .10 Chromes and the brass strip somehow ended up sideways in the middle of the trem cavity...so I had to loosen the claw and reset it. It was fine...but... ...but then the damn trem arm broke off in the bridge. It wasn't the official SGV arm, so it never fit quite right. Man. Anyone ever dealt with that? Last edited: Jun 16, 2012 01:16:03 Top
bjoish Joined: Jul 06, 2010 Posts: 596 Stockholm	Posted on Jun 18 2012 01:55 PM ludobag wrote: what is the goal of the 2 screws in the red circle ? to ajust the high of tremplate ? Those screws are used for attaching the top part of the tremolo to the tremolo block underneath. I would not recommend any adjustment without first removing the springs and the strings! Top
FritzCat Joined: Sep 11, 2007 Posts: 676 Sonoma, CA	Posted on Jun 18 2012 02:12 PM The original arms are still available from Yamaha, the part # is QC541101 and it's about $38 with shipping from www.yamaha24x7.com Top
Richard Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 1683 Georgia	Posted on Jul 04 2012 09:21 AM I recently got in a 3-pack of high tension trem springs from Floyd Upgrades. I loosened the strings on my SGV and replaced the two stock springs with two of these, which actually pulled the trem too far in the opposite direction! I was irked. After a few minutes I decided to just try one, and viola, the trem sat straight and the arm is at a much more useable angle. I put the stiff spring on the bass side and put the stock string back on the treble side. — The Mystery Men? El Capitan and The Reluctant Sadists SSS Agent #31 Top
bjoish Joined: Jul 06, 2010 Posts: 596 Stockholm	Posted on Jul 31 2012 07:40 AM This is my trem solution. I went to the hardware store and bought 10mm square metal pipe. I drilled a 3mm hole in the trem posts and added new M3 threads. image image Seems to work perfectly. No problem now to use 011 strings Top
Achtane Joined: May 23, 2010 Posts: 14 Virginia Beach, VA	Posted on Oct 31 2012 11:07 PM I ordered a set of .13 Chromes...I have my doubts as to whether they'll even fit in the rollers or not. If so then I'm going for SGV baritone tuning. Top
surferXmatt Joined: Aug 27, 2008 Posts: 1570 New York	Posted on Nov 01 2012 09:18 AM When I owned this guitar, I used 10's and thought they worked well. Top
mad_dog Joined: Sep 23, 2008 Posts: 349 Montclair, NJ	Posted on Nov 01 2012 09:33 AM I had .11s on my SGV 800, which had been modded with a third trem string by my tech friend. It helped stabilize the trem, and eliminated problems with higher string gauges. BTW, that guitar felt and played much better with .11s, after coming to me with .10s. MD Top
HallmarkSweptWinger Joined: Jul 27, 2006 Posts: 1284 Berlinesia, Germanifornia	Posted on Jun 11 2014 11:10 AM Next friday we are gonna play here in Berlin together with the Tijuana Panthers from Long Beach. I decided to play SGV300. So I just put new strings on my white SGV300 (after 4 years). Actually I use: 12 - 16 - 22 (plain) - 32 - 42 - 52 Plays very good! No problems. — Twang cheers! Ralf Kilauea www.kilaueas.de https://kilaueas.bandcamp.com/album/touch-my-alien Top

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