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bjoish Joined: Jul 06, 2010 Posts: 596 Stockholm	Posted on Jun 01 2012 01:19 PM Should I use flat wound or round wound strings for a SGV 300? What type of strings are famous SGV players like Shigeo Naka and Takeshi Terauchi using? Thanks, Björn Top
Richard Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 1683 Georgia	Posted on Jun 01 2012 04:31 PM I think most of us use rounds, either 9's or 10's. The two trem springs really can't handle anything more than that, and right now mine doesn't even handle 10's very well. It pulls the trem too far forward, causing the arm to angle down toward the body and making it difficult to use. D'Addario makes a set of ultralight flats if you wanted to try them. — The Mystery Men? El Capitan and The Reluctant Sadists SSS Agent #31 Top
NIB Joined: Aug 02, 2010 Posts: 111 Vienna/Austria	Posted on Jun 01 2012 04:58 PM i have .12 chromes one mine. stays in tune, no matter how much i use the tremolo bar. trem is absolut parallel to the guitars body. therefor i replaced the two spring with ones, that are made for 7string guitars. Top
FritzCat Joined: Sep 11, 2007 Posts: 676 Sonoma, CA	Posted on Jun 01 2012 06:46 PM If the arm is too close to the body there is a way to add another spring. Look at the pic below: fabricate a flat piece of metal to go over the top of the bridge posts, make holes in the ends of the piece to put the springs through into the posts, and add another hole in the middle of your fabricated piece to add another spring. PM me if this doesn't make sense. Top
CrispyGoodness Joined: Apr 06, 2009 Posts: 565 North Cackalacky	Posted on Jun 01 2012 07:50 PM Personally, I wouldn't go higher than 10's. I found that with heavier gauge strings the 300's skinny neck makes for rather stiff and uncomfortable playing, and even with more macho trem springs, I found it wouldn't stay in tune for very long. Two of the big reasons I reluctantly sold mine a few years back. --Crispy Top
HallmarkSweptWinger Joined: Jul 27, 2006 Posts: 1284 Berlinesia, Germanifornia	Posted on Jun 02 2012 06:49 AM I tried rounds and flats on SGV300`s. I prefer roundwounds on SGV300! I tried different gauges. After years of Yamaha guitar science research with 5 different SGV300`s I recommend for Surf: 12-16-18-32-42-52 I don`t use complete sets. I mostly buy single strings in a bigger amount, so it`s much cheaper than complete sets where I can`t use every string. I don`t care about the brand! For me it`s only important to have the right gauges. So I have strings on one guitar from Dean Markley, D Addario, ghs etc... Of course the trem bar has to be absolute parallel to the body. I used two heavy heavy trem springs. (Not easy to install them!) No detuning problems! Tone is great! The SGV300 needs a bit of time and patience to get a perfect individual set up. (like other guitars also for sure...) Okay, hope this helps a bit!? — Twang cheers! Ralf Kilauea www.kilaueas.de https://kilaueas.bandcamp.com/album/touch-my-alien Top
ludobag Joined: Jun 05, 2010 Posts: 620 at south of	Posted on Jun 03 2012 07:39 AM this week normally i will recept my SGV 300 CAR ,i will set up first with my classic string 10 52 to see how it work and after i will try yours (but at first i am a little scary cause my jag set up in 12 52 chrome is really hard to play,maybe the string are a little be to hight too ? 2,5mm bass 2 mm treble and with a wound g(24) i didn't arrived to make a bend one step i will try a plain 20 ) Last edited: Jun 03, 2012 07:51:09 Top
Richard Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 1683 Georgia	Posted on Jun 03 2012 02:29 PM Fritz, long ago someone posted a pic of the mod you're describing. I don't remember who and I don't think it's floating around on the board, but I understand what you're saying. I'm not sure exactly how I'd go about it or what type of piece I'd use. It seems like heavier trem springs would be the simplest thing to do. A quick Google search didn't turn up a great deal. There's these and I saw that Gotoh makes some. — The Mystery Men? El Capitan and The Reluctant Sadists SSS Agent #31 Top
LHR Joined: Aug 23, 2006 Posts: 2123 The jungle	Posted on Jun 03 2012 03:31 PM I would try 10s, at the maximum. One factor is the bridge saddles. It has a Mosrite sort of design; larger gauges may want to pop out with aggressive playing. — SSIV Top
bjoish Joined: Jul 06, 2010 Posts: 596 Stockholm	Posted on Jun 03 2012 06:24 PM Thanks for all the info! I recently bought a SGV-300 in a bad shape. I have restored it and will soon put all the parts together again. I plan to add a 'bar' to make it possible to use a third spring. Would be nice to be able to try 011 Chromes. Top
Achtane Joined: May 23, 2010 Posts: 14 Virginia Beach, VA	Posted on Jun 03 2012 06:34 PM If anybody's gonna be making one of those bars, I'll paypal ya a few bucks to send me one, too. I have .11 Chromes on my SGV and no matter how much I screw around with the claw or springs that I have, it always goes way flat when I move the bar down and way sharp when I move it up... Maybe the super-heavy springs would be worth it, I dunno yet. Top
Sonichris Joined: Mar 06, 2006 Posts: 1894 Wear gloves - I'm in the Rockies	Posted on Jun 03 2012 06:41 PM I think it was Wannes (WR) that first posted about this mod. Here's a picture I mocked up a while back - I should have taken a picture of the real thing. I used a piece of brass that I got from Ace Hardware - it was about 1mm thick, and about 5mm wide. It worked great, and only cost a few dollars and a 1/2 hour of time to make. — "You can't tell where you're going if you don't know where you've been" Last edited: Jun 03, 2012 18:42:28 Top
tiki101 Joined: Mar 22, 2009 Posts: 101 pgh, where the zombies live	Posted on Jun 04 2012 08:57 PM i used to use chrome 10's on my 300. loved it, and it took some of the edge off those pickups. i think that guitar is built for 10's, nothing but trouble when i tried heavier. Top
morphball Joined: Dec 23, 2008 Posts: 3324 Pittsboro, NC	Posted on Jun 04 2012 11:24 PM I've had 4 of these in my possession over the last few years (an 800, a 700, and 2x 300's), and have to admit I didn't do much experimentation with gauges the way I have with strats/jags, but have experienced good stability with 10 rounds on all of them. I pretty much treat them like Mosrites though, they really seem to be designed for 10's. — Mike http://www.youtube.com/morphballio Top
Achtane Joined: May 23, 2010 Posts: 14 Virginia Beach, VA	Posted on Jun 06 2012 01:28 AM I found some thin brass strips like Sonichris described on a hobby shop's eBay page...I also bought some .10 Chromes. Hopefully this double whammy will take care of things, I'll post again with results. Top
bjoish Joined: Jul 06, 2010 Posts: 596 Stockholm	Posted on Jun 06 2012 05:59 AM Achtane wrote: I found some thin brass strips like Sonichris described on a hobby shop's eBay page...I also bought some .10 Chromes. Hopefully this double whammy will take care of things, I'll post again with results. I look forward to it Please attach a photo ! Top
ludobag Joined: Jun 05, 2010 Posts: 620 at south of	Posted on Jun 10 2012 09:42 AM then i have try my SGV 300 really cool guitar ,i wanted to set up for 10 52 but i have not string here (i was sure i have but i don't find them ?) no works on it (it is at the yamaha spec )then i am really happy just a little cleaning and set up the trem cause it is tune in E flat ?maybe an SRV or Hendrix fan as first seen there is 09 46 or 42 on it i don't know if she will support 10 52 without another spring cause the plate for spring is already tighten there is less than 8 mm to continu for those who have it is necessary to have an another spring with 10 46 round 10 52 round or not ? i like a lot 10 52 but with this sort of trem (floating) maybe i must put 11 49 cause the set is more balanced ? on my jag i have lowered the action is reaaly more playable ,in fact with big strings you can have low action ,i have try a jazzmaster too with 12 and low action is not really hard to play as i think before and in fact i like it a lot Last edited: Jun 10, 2012 09:47:58 Top
ludobag Joined: Jun 05, 2010 Posts: 620 at south of	Posted on Jun 11 2012 10:59 AM what is the goal of the 2 screws in the red circle ? to ajust the high of tremplate ? Top
NIB Joined: Aug 02, 2010 Posts: 111 Vienna/Austria	Posted on Jun 11 2012 11:28 AM not sure, but i think you can adjust the resistance off the trem arm with these. Top
NIB Joined: Aug 02, 2010 Posts: 111 Vienna/Austria	Posted on Jun 11 2012 11:30 AM maybe you find a answer there: http://www2.yamaha.co.jp/manual/pdf/guitar/english/elegui/SGV800_QC55690_EN.pdf Top

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