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Permalink LOST HEROES FROM THE DAWN OF SURF!

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Cool tune, definitely has that 007 vibe. Thumbs Up

Working hard to become a Dick Dale tribute artist.

I would hope that everyone here knows about Will Glover from The Pyramids and the contributions made by the great drummer Earl Palmer to session surf, Jan and Dean, and to rock and roll in general. If we take it further, The Lively Ones and other bands wouldn't be the same without the influence of Freddie King and other blues and r&b guitarists.
Regarding Hot Rod Music, The Duals "Stick Shift" is often cited as one of the first, if not the first hot rod instrumental, combining the sound of revving engines and a driving guitar arrangement. I've had their Stick Shift album for 30 years, but didn't learn that The Duals were African American until about 10 years ago. They have some vocals on the album, but minstrelsy was so common in rock and roll and surf (Dick Dale's yelps on Shake n' Stomp, his vocal on Mr. Peppermint Man, many of The Astronauts vocal numbers, countless surf bands covering Ray Charles What I Say, the list goes on) that I incorrectly assumed that they were white.
Like many Black artists of the time, they had no photos of them included in the album art, and in the case of The Duals, finding ANY photos of them is not an easy task. It's February, so happy Black History Month and here are Hot Rod pioneers, The Duals.

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Ted,

Excellent post. Thanks for sharing this important info.

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That was good, Ted. I have always thought Freddie King's instrumentals "Let's Hide Away and Dance Away with Freddie King" must have been an influence on the first wavers.

Strat-o-rama wrote:

That was good, Ted. I have always thought Freddie King's instrumentals "Let's Hide Away and Dance Away with Freddie King" must have been an influence on the first wavers.

Most definitely! The Lively Ones alone covered 2 if not 3 songs of off those albums.

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Hi Ted, I love it when new "history of surf music" information is shared here on SG101. This is a great post. Thank you, sir!

This is for those that don't bother to click on your link:

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Last edited: Feb 07, 2020 10:55:35

Thank you! You're correct that this is important and should be widely known and acknowledged.

spskins wrote:

I would hope that everyone here knows about Will Glover from The Pyramids and the contributions made by the great drummer Earl Palmer to session surf, Jan and Dean, and to rock and roll in general. If we take it further, The Lively Ones and other bands wouldn't be the same without the influence of Freddie King and other blues and r&b guitarists.
Regarding Hot Rod Music, The Duals "Stick Shift" is often cited as one of the first, if not the first hot rod instrumental, combining the sound of revving engines and a driving guitar arrangement. I've had their Stick Shift album for 30 years, but didn't learn that The Duals were African American until about 10 years ago. They have some vocals on the album, but minstrelsy was so common in rock and roll and surf (Dick Dale's yelps on Shake n' Stomp, his vocal on Mr. Peppermint Man, many of The Astronauts vocal numbers, countless surf bands covering Ray Charles What I Say, the list goes on) that I incorrectly assumed that they were white.
Like many Black artists of the time, they had no photos of them included in the album art, and in the case of The Duals, finding ANY photos of them is not an easy task. It's February, so happy Black History Month and here are Hot Rod pioneers, The Duals.

https://youtu.be/5q7U4_GaCx8

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Yup. All correct about The Duals. Also might want to note that they were produced by noted and ubiquitous Hollywood R&B artist/producer H.B. Barnum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._B._Barnum). "Stick Shift" was intially released on the independent Star Revue label (owned by Ron Barrett, a member of the R&B group The Meadowlarks) before it went to the nationally distributed Sue label. The stuff crossover dreams are made of.

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This is definitely a lost Surf band from 1964 to 1966 called
"The Shades" from Cannon Falls Minnesota of all places Cool

They even had a old 1947 Buick ambulance as a hearse style band equipment transport. I thought it was funny they had a little baby brother playing air guitar on a cardboard cut-out (Let Mikey play kids!) more than likely at the parents request (who more than likely paid for all the gear as well} Hang ten

Last edited: Feb 08, 2020 20:52:13

I never knew this, our surf heros - The Astronuts - went on as a acid rock group for a while under a different name (1967). I posted link below . You have to scroll down near the bottom of the page "Quote below" or just use source at bottom of this page (wiki)

http://whatfrankislisteningto.negstar.com/garage-beach-and-frat/the-astronauts-travellin-men-rca-1967/

"Trivia
wikipedia: "For a while, the same band – Fifield, Patterson, McLerian, Bretz and Jenkins – performed in the US under the name SunshineWard, who released one single, "Sally Go Around The Roses", in 1967. Patterson then left the band and music business, and Fifield and McLerran formed a new band, Hardwater, with Tony Murillo and Peter M. Wyant. In 1968, the band released two singles and an album, Hardwater, on Capitol Records, produced by David Axelrod. Fifield also had a role in assisting Axelrod and record engineer David Hassinger, who owned the rights to the group name of The Electric Prunes, to find a new group of musicians to take on that group’s name for their record, Mass in F Minor. Fifield contacted fellow Colorado musicians, Richard Whetstone, John Herron and Mark Kincaid, who then agreed to form one of the final line-ups of The Electric Prunes"."

The Hardwater crew of what was left of The Astronauts (Fifield and McLerran) is the 2nd video below

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Astronauts_(band)

Two of the Astronauts got drafted in The US army during Vietnam conflict, (Drummer than Guitarist) The drummer became a drug addict over there and eventually started a fast food franchise back home after getting out of the army and made a ton of money evidently selling the business later..

So it sounds like SunshineWard might have broke up because of the draft maybe … not sure, but I do know two of the Astronauts did get drafted though.

Many other bands had a similar story of going acid rock after The Beatles Sargent Pepper album came out, and many players were drafted as well, so you wonder what Surf would have sounded like if it had gone on a few more years into the 70's? Is that were all the 5th wave bands are now?

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Strat-o-rama wrote:

That was good, Ted. I have always thought Freddie King's instrumentals "Let's Hide Away and Dance Away with Freddie King" must have been an influence on the first wavers.

And the first wavers must have had an influence on him (or his producer). One of my favorite albums...

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SilverFlash wrote:

Hi Ted, I love it when new "history of surf music" information is shared here on SG101. This is a great post. Thank you, sir!

This is for those that don't bother to click on your link:

I’m glad I stumbled upon your post here and the link to your YouTube channel, SilverFlash—-hours of joy await! Woot!

This thread is a goldmine!
Thanks to everyone for the videos, and history.

Deal with reality, or reality will deal with you.

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