jdangerously57 wrote:

Definitely have my full support Brian. The Government
is going to far, these plus the already passed NDAA
continue to chip away all rights and freedoms
originally set down in the Constitution, further
reducing it to being just a simple piece of paper that
some guy's wrote on a long time ago.

I think the blame falls squarely on on the shoulders of aggressive multi-national corporation-logbbyists as well as a totally complacent public. The "Government" for the most part is really nothing but shills and corporate toadies... very few true representatives of the people left in DC these days...

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dp wrote:

jdangerously57 wrote:

Definitely have my full support Brian. The
Government
is going to far, these plus the already passed NDAA
continue to chip away all rights and freedoms
originally set down in the Constitution, further
reducing it to being just a simple piece of paper
that
some guy's wrote on a long time ago.

I think the blame falls squarely on on the shoulders of
aggressive multi-national corporation-logbbyists as
well as a totally complacent public. The "Government"
for the most part is really nothing but shills and
corporate toadies... very few true representatives of
the people left in DC these days...

Indeed, I fully concur sir.

-Damon.

dp wrote:

by the way, jdangerously, how's the Medford Oregono
surf scene?...do y'all have a surf band in town
yet?...or do you have to trek up to Portland to catch
the reverberators?

Well there's really only one surf band in town, mine, The Phantom Tides. The only other band similar is The Nautics, but they do more of a pop rock with surf gear kind of a thing (although they are great musicians and have been Nokie's backing band the last few times he's played around here). Outside of that, there really isn't any surf scene to speak of, sadly. It's a backwards kind of an area, with only one kool bar that actually books lots of bands, Johnny B's (Jakes old band The Verb came through here and played there a few years ago. Sad to say, I think that's the last surf band to come through here, at least that I'm aware of).

-Damon.

Last edited: Jan 18, 2012 00:28:52

Wow! Rubio was for it? That comes as a bit of a surprise.

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But on the other hand ...

http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/204913-dnc-chief-is-backer-of-online-piracy-bill

This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.

Really? So it's all just business after all? Who knew? Or that Hollywood is institutionally Progressive? Who knew that? Or that Hollywood Progressives think they can buy votes just like any other business interest? Who knew that either? Or that Progressives aren't really liberal? Who knew? Noah is right, this is sad; just not surprising.

killbabykill34 wrote:

Let us see how quickly this Administration changes it's
tune. Apparently the Entertainment Industry are
threatening to back out of fundraisers for the
Democratic Party if they don't get/remain behind this
bill....So sad...but money talks and we all know how
quickly the O Administration will cave.

Very Sad
Article

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Here is a great video:

http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa

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morphball wrote:

I'm sure Hollywood's lost revenue has nothing to do
with cranking out shitty remakes, CG-driven comic &
video game adaptions, and generally uninspired
originals.

Well, the argument of cause or effect is questionable. It would be really easy to argue that we are seeing remakes, comic and video game adaptations on such a mass scale because Hollywood is currently not willing to take risks. These films tend to open HUGE, no matter how poor they are. A remake can make it's money back on name recognition alone in one weekend. Then if it drops off, no harm done.

I read the argements that Hollywood made to justify this bill. The numbers were grossly exagerated, using faulty practices. From what I understand, the numbers they gave were based upon total illegal downloads of movies. Yes, this number is accurate. What is not accurate is the assumption that each of the people that illegally downloaded the movie would have actually spent money on tickets had they not had the opportunity to steal the movies. This is a very faulty assumption and one that common sense would tell is not true.

There are things that Hollywood could have done to help curtail this practice. For one, make going to the movies affordable. Stop tacking on 3D to an unwanting audience, just so you can tack on extra money to the ticket price. 6 years ago my ex and I could not only afford to go to the movies, but it was not uncommon for us to go multiple times per week. Now the price is outrageous. I took my little girls to see Chipwrecked a few weeks ago. Just the tickets for three of us exceeded 40 dollars. Six year ago the price would have been 18 dollars for three tickets at the same theater.

The economy is bad. People are short on money. If you want to encourage people to go to the movies you lower your price. Isn't it common knowledge in basic economics that when demand is low you lower the price?

I am not going to try to justify illegally downloading anything. Despite the fact that I have done it, I understand it is wrong. However, don't cheat your way into having a bill written. Even more, make sure that bill corrects the problem at hand. As I see it, this bill was used to hide granting government new powers that will expand their already overreaching arms.

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