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drumuitar Joined: Feb 28, 2006 Posts: 813 Boise, ID	Posted on Dec 15 2006 06:19 PM Hmmm, now that I think of it...the Halibuts covered the Fender IV version of Malibu Run. Oops — Shawn Martin http://www.drummerman.net http://www.youtube.com/GKacedrummerman http://www.facebook.com/drumuitar Top
mournblade Joined: Sep 27, 2006 Posts: 328 central Pennsylvania	Posted on Dec 18 2006 07:48 PM RobbieReverb mournblade Them's fightin' words tough-guy!!! (I'll let you get away with Aerosmith, and assume you haven't heard Clapton in Cream, Derek & the Dominoes or John Mayall's Bluesbrakers, but the Allman Brothers: IMHO were, and still are as good as any band that's ever existed in any genre. Link Wray was a pioneer, and great until the end). Bob ===>I'll grant you that Link Wray was a pioneer, but I still think he's overrated. Call me a square (and I KNOW I'm gonna get blasted for the following statement), but I much prefer Duane Eddy to Link Wray. . . . Sorry, can't agree with you on ANY of Clapton's incarnations: Cream, Derek & the Dominoes. . . blech! Clapton, admittedly, had a few interesting tunes in his day, but, like Yes and Emerson, Lake, & Palmer, 95% of his output was self-indulgent tripe. (I WOULD have added Yes and ELP to my "overrated" lists, but who actually listens to them anymore???) Hey, you know I'm primarily a piano/synth player, and all the keyboardists out there talk about what a great pioneer Keith Emerson was. But you know, I absolutely detest his music, and. . . hell, I just can't find the words to describe how absolutely banal his so-called music really is! Oh wait! -- I DO like "Ramblin' Man" by the Allman Brothers (and, after watching The Devil's Rejects, I must say that I now have a new appreciation for "Midnight Hour"(?)), but I still think they suck. Sorry--I listened to far too many Dead Kennedys albums in my youth, so I am forever jaded. Speaking of punk, any Cramps fans out there??? I KNOW they are HUGE fans of Link Wray. I LOVE the Cramps' tune, "Sunglasses After Dark," which takes one of Wray's instros ("Fatback," perhaps?) and fuses the lyrics to "Sunglasses After Dark" on top of it. Goo goo muck indeed! Up the Irons!!! Also sprach Mournblade — Is this something you can share with the rest of us, Amazing Larry?!? Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19307 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Dec 18 2006 08:22 PM Brian Please lets stick to the surf genre, ok? Yeah, what that guy said.. ^^^^^ — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top
Tikitena Joined: Mar 21, 2006 Posts: 1540	Posted on Dec 18 2006 10:42 PM spskins Scott will kill me! heh. We've done it a few times before and he always rolls his eyes. BUT I START IT, and everyone else will do it, so he has to go along. MUWHAHAHAHAHAHAH hahahahaha Will you play Casbah for me this time with your extended drum solo? -K — "Turn the knob to 10 and break it off!" -Baja Marty Top
spskins Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 3783 tn	Posted on Dec 19 2006 10:49 AM Tikitena spskins Scott will kill me! heh. We've done it a few times before and he always rolls his eyes. BUT I START IT, and everyone else will do it, so he has to go along. MUWHAHAHAHAHAHAH hahahahaha Will you play Casbah for me this time with your extended drum solo? -K Anything for you Tena. Remind me! — http://www.satanspilgrims.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Satans-Pilgrims/8210228553 https://satanspilgrims.bandcamp.com/ http://www.surfyindustries.com Top
SurfMaui Joined: Dec 21, 2006 Posts: 45	Posted on Dec 22 2006 02:07 AM I know I`ll get smack downs for this, but Mr. Moto.... way overated. Never really liked the Belairs that much anyway..Bustin surfboards is right up there with it. Top
Stormtiger Joined: Dec 12, 2006 Posts: 2684 Ventura, CA	Posted on Dec 22 2006 12:39 PM Someone had better make a distinction between the Allman Brothers with Duane and without. The Live at the Fillmore, although too long, is a landmark in rock music history. What unbelievable solos--and I hate long solos. Duane was also half of Derek and the Dominoes! I just don't know what to say to anyone who doesn't love Mr. Moto and Surf Rider. You say you like surf music? Is there one song that everyone loves? I'll put it out there that Dick Dale's (and only his) Miserlou is the best surf song--ever. I'm not a huge DD fan but I don't think anyone ever made a more aggressive and thrilling sound. Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19307 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Dec 22 2006 01:11 PM Brian Brian Please lets stick to the surf genre, ok? Yeah, what that guy said.. ^^^^^ Last warning. — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top
SurfMaui Joined: Dec 21, 2006 Posts: 45	Posted on Dec 22 2006 02:13 PM I just never cared for The Belairs. I like covers of Mr.Moto, just dont care for the original. Im not a fan of Lets go tripping either, at least not Dicks original recording of it. I like when he added reverb to it later in recordings. On another note, I do like Paul Johnson`s later, and more current stuff. What can I say? Top
JoshHeartless Joined: Jun 17, 2006 Posts: 1010 Bay City, Michigan	Posted on Dec 22 2006 02:17 PM Brian Brian Brian Please lets stick to the surf genre, ok? Yeah, what that guy said.. ^^^^^ Last warning. Agreed! i don't like walk, dont run. its not even a surf tune! and as i said before, the chantays version of pipeline isnt that great. anyone else think the ventures, not even being a surf band, did a better job? — The Tremblors on Facebook! The Tremblors on MySpace! Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19307 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Dec 22 2006 02:24 PM Hearteater and as i said before, the chantays version of pipeline isnt that great. anyone else think the ventures, not even being a surf band, did a better job? Nope. Not even close. — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top
JoshHeartless Joined: Jun 17, 2006 Posts: 1010 Bay City, Michigan	Posted on Dec 23 2006 03:58 PM Brian Hearteater and as i said before, the chantays version of pipeline isnt that great. anyone else think the ventures, not even being a surf band, did a better job? Nope. Not even close. well everyone is entitled to their own opinion. at least i was keeping it on-topic. — The Tremblors on Facebook! The Tremblors on MySpace! Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19307 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Dec 24 2006 09:07 AM Hearteater well everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I find this type of response quite puzzling. You asked a question soliciting opinions and I stated mine. Surprise! It doesn't match yours. If you didn't want to know you shouldn't have asked. Or did you only want to know if people agreed with you? Of course there is no accounting for tastes, so let me elaborate on why I feel that the Chantay's version is superior to the Ventures version. I feel that the original has a certain vibe to it that is unmatched by any cover, even a cover as well done as the Ventures'. Also, there is the "first" factor; it is one of the genre defining landmark songs. That song put together a lot of the elements that we take for granted now all in one song. The songwriting on that one is amazing. Maybe it is overplayed now, but think about the first time you heard it. For me, it was like nothing else I had ever heard. Think about how that must have been like in 1963. Paul Johnson told the story on Cowabunga of when he first heard Pipeline, he was in his car and he had to pull off the road to put all his attention on the song. The Ventures cover is very well done, and I like it a lot. But I feel the vibe created by a bunch of teenagers, in this case, trumps the musicianship of the seasoned adult professional musicians. Anyway, of course, just in case it is not clear, this is just my opinion. No need to reply stating that. — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top
JoshHeartless Joined: Jun 17, 2006 Posts: 1010 Bay City, Michigan	Posted on Dec 24 2006 11:46 AM i asked if people agreed with me. i was stating that i was entitled to my own opinion because i like the Venture's version better, that is all. — The Tremblors on Facebook! The Tremblors on MySpace! Top
kick_the_reverb Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 1338 Escondido, CA	Posted on Dec 24 2006 12:16 PM I'm with Brian on that, although I like the Astronauts version, too (but not as much as the Chantays). BTW, after bad-mouthing Bustin' Surfboards, what do I find myself "singing" to my daughter while changing her yesterday? That's right, Bustin' Surfboards... Ran — The Scimitars Top
bigtikidude Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 25603 Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.	Posted on Dec 24 2006 05:31 PM I Just heard the Ventures Version of Pipeline in a movie today. Its not bad, but just doesn't capture that vibe of surfing( to me). Its well played, but just seems kinda stiff, and very (Studio=stale) There are some killer original songs of surf from the 60s that may not be 100% perfect recrodings, or performances, but some how with the limited Rec. equip. and primitive( i.e. not Fenders with Showmans) they nailed that perfect surf vibe. Pipeline by the chantays is a perfect example of it. Yes its overplayed. And its not a hard song to play. But when I hear it on AM or the rare FM radio show, I get goosebumps. Brian, cool recolection of Pauls story, I'l have to bring that up with him next time I see him. Jeff(bigtikidude) — Jeff(bigtikidude) Top
mom_surfing Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 5309 the outer banks of north carolina	Posted on Dec 25 2006 07:18 AM i agree with you jeff. and being someone who surfs a lot and has been surfing a very long time, hearing 'pipeline' always makes me think of surfing as does 'stoked' by the beach boys. those tunes 'feel' like surfing. my 2 cents. carol — www.surfintheeye.com Top
JoshHeartless Joined: Jun 17, 2006 Posts: 1010 Bay City, Michigan	Posted on Dec 26 2006 09:39 AM i LOVE stoked, that song is way UNDERrated — The Tremblors on Facebook! The Tremblors on MySpace! Top
LHR Joined: Aug 23, 2006 Posts: 2123 The jungle	Posted on Dec 27 2006 12:54 AM For me it is "Miserlou". Why? Well, I have heard Dick Dale's version about a million times so that's not fun anymore. And like "Pipeline", it is almost a cliche, so we don't really ever play it. Modern covers of it seem generally weak. Shame, really, because it is a good song. Maybe it is a case of over-saturation rather than it over-rating. — SSIV Top
HBkahuna Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 1778 Star, Idaho. Formerly lived in Surf City USA.	Posted on Jan 08 2007 05:17 PM Here are the Surfaris doing Wipeout. For a song that over rated, they crowd sure seems to like it.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEvXuHKg1TE&mode=related&search= Top

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