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or post it publicly

No kidding - some of those are serious allegations.

So that would be a "no"? Nothing you wouldn't consider "family safe" going on with surf?

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I completely agree with Ivan on this one. We had some conversations a while ago about this and this is exactly how I feel about it. I think every genre needs new bands and fresh sounds.

Some surf bands use go go dancers or even pseudo burlesque dancers in their live shows, which would tend to keep the soccer moms and kids away I guess.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZEW74mHjQk

tdsurf
Hasn't surf music been pretty much "family safe" all these years with almost no exceptions. Am I beginning to see a (disturbing) trend away from this aspect by blending Surf with alcohol, cursing, gore, racism, or violence etc?
td

While it is mostly instrumental music, didn't surf contain aspects of a lot of these things from it's inception? Off the top of my head...
Alcohol-"Intoxica", "Church Key", "The Inebriated Surfer" too many others to mention
Gore-are you talking monster/devil themed stuff or actual gore? Monster/devil stuff is of course another long list...
Cursing- well, if you're talking sexual innuendo "Shootin' Beavers", "Chunky"etc.
Racism- "Scalping Party", "Comanche", "Apache" any number of other exploitative titles involving American Indian, Hawaiian, Mexican/Latin American, Spanish, Arabic/Moorish, Asian cultures.

But hey, it was the early 60s. Kids playing cowboys and Indians was "family fun". California culture had a heavy Latino influence bubbling under the surface, and Hawaii was a new state full of "otherness" to be excited about. I don't really see this as out and out racism as much as curiosity and intrigue. Plus, a lot of the bands were all or part Latino.
Dad had a drink every night at 5 and probably kept going while teenagers and college kids were beer busting whenever they could.
The entire culture was extremely sexist and racist. Surfing as a sport was pretty racist, not allowing Hawaiian or other surfers who weren't lily white to compete or stay in the same motels with the white surfers for competitions.
If the modern examples of these are much different, please give them, I'm curious.

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tdsurf
Hasn't surf music been pretty much "family safe" all these years with almost no exceptions. Am I beginning to see a (disturbing) trend away from this aspect by blending Surf with alcohol, cursing, gore, racism, or violence etc?
td

While it is mostly instrumental music, didn't surf contain aspects of a lot of these things from it's inception? .

I think you are correct. Surf Music was never intended to be "safe". I haven't observed anything inappropriate outside of it's venue. Other than a tripped out hippy chick at the pier.

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I don't see how the words comanche or apache are in anyway racist... BUT i don't believe in this PC crap thats shoved down our throats either so.... my view may be askew:)

I wanna play just like him when i grow up...

Icetech
I don't see how the words comanche or apache are in anyway racist... BUT i don't believe in this PC crap thats shoved down our throats either so.... my view may be askew:)

If you read my next paragraph, you'll see that I don't either, and that I don't think it should be PC-I'm just saying that if there are MORE blatant examples now, I would like to know...

http://www.satanspilgrims.com
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Satans-Pilgrims/8210228553
https://satanspilgrims.bandcamp.com/
http://www.surfyindustries.com

I just have to be careful playing devil's advocate.

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https://satanspilgrims.bandcamp.com/
http://www.surfyindustries.com

Sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll, it isn't just a saying, it's a way of life. The mass appeal of music is somewhat how it resembles sex and drugs. In more innocent times, before birth control pills became omnipresent, surf music was risque. Surfers wore only skimpy swimsuits (sexy!) and the music had more energy than previous music (drug-like stimulant).

The Beatles & Stones & Hendrix rolled in as birth control pills did and everything changed. Sex and drugs were much heavier, and so was the rock-n-roll. And things have kept on going down the same road, so much so that rock-n-roll is largely replaced by rap and hip-hop with lewd and violent lyrics.

Pop music is supposed to be popular. Once it becomes formerly popular it's not popular music, it's a relic, like an Edsel car. Purists can collect relics and love them, no harm done, but if you want your music to be popular you have to be faddish or your music does.

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Squid
Pop music is supposed to be popular. Once it becomes formerly popular it's not popular music, it's a relic, like an Edsel car. Purists can collect relics and love them, no harm done, but if you want your music to be popular you have to be faddish or your music does.

to me therein lies the rub and the topic of this post/thread.

Surf Music as a fad is here and gone with the first wave to be reborn/redone/reinfluenced with each following wave.
Which was/is the better "Surf Music" well that is up to the listener I guess and as a listener there is some of each waves stuff I just don't care for.

Two examples are the beloved "Astronauts" other than the first LP they sound like a cover band with reverb added cuz reverb was cool at the time. The other is "MOAM" just never did care for them.

I missed the SG101con but did get to see some great and 1 (what I thought) not so great bands/band at the Sunday at the peir show.
For anyone that missed the Sunday show it seemed to me the only "Surfy" influence that was missing was Spooky.

I see this thread as an extension of the "Surf..True Genre or "Sub-Genre" ?

Surf > Genre
Then you have all the surf influenced Sub's. Trad, Vocal, Spooky, Hot Rod, Punk, Metal and so on and on.

As a "Surf Music" consumer I own several of the bands that post here and enjoy them all other wise I wouldn't have spent my hard earned dollar on their music.
But I want my "Surf Music" to be just that "Surfy".
I want it to make me roll down the car window and smell the salt in the air, feel the sun on my face on my way to the green room.
When I'm a 1000 miles from the beach when its dumping snow.

"Maybe there aren't any surf bands; there's only surf music?" Tuck

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