IceratzSurf
Joined: Oct 22, 2022
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Posted on Mar 03 2023 02:19 PM
As some of you know I tinker with my guitars quite a bit, if nothing else takes away winter boredom.
I did this Jaguar project a while ago.
https://surfguitar101.com/forums/topic/35154/
Telecaster project under way is a basic conversion of single coil pickups to a cool pair of TV Jones Classic Filtertrons.
While I am at it, add a new Bigsby, the real deal.
I own both components already on my Gretsch 6120 Nashville.
But wanted the twang in solid body.
I had done lots of work before, on this original Baja, in the coolest color of 'faded sonic blue'...much debate on the color name and reality of actual shade.
Tell you it does change in different lighting.
I mostly see a soft minty green..not blue..not ever.
And the "story" goes, the vintage paints, originally was blue in the 60's...but fades to green with age. Or so I am told or read somewhere.
It's my color and I love it! Even if its repro poly!
So, with the body decidedly a keeper,
I had previously upgraded the neck to Fender roasted maple.
Wow it seriously one of the best upgrades I have done to any guitar!
The slim 60s shape is close to the Jaguar spec for shape, but still Telecaster long scale length.
Onto the next upgrades!
I have most of the components in now.
The decision how to cover up the bridge pickup base, will be a first attempt to make this cool pickguard.
I had this mint pearl sheet stock from another project and was in disbelief the color matches so well.
I considered installing the pickup into the bridge plate, like I have seen on so many other conversions.
Cutting plastic is easier than metal!
Neatness matters!
Adding some flair to the basic Tele design, I made some different custom curves for the back of the pickguard to nest the bridge and sweep the control switch plate
If it gets sloppy I can always use the pickup ring...but would rather not.
Wiring shall be pretty standard, 500meg pots, 3 way switch, Nothing special.
But I do plan to flip the switch plate and have the volume knob forward so I can balance right off the Bigsby arm and access for volume swells..and tremelo..that's cool.
Stay tuned for more project updates!
This old axe has seen a lot of changes from original-TIME AGAIN
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edwardsand
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Posted on Mar 03 2023 03:32 PM
Looks like a great project - the sort of mods I would totally want to do with a cheap tele.
I have the same thoughts on the sonic blue color. I've got a "sonic blue" CV Squier Mustang, and all day long I swear it's a light surf green color.
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IceratzSurf
Joined: Oct 22, 2022
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Posted on Mar 04 2023 11:57 AM
Finished the custom pickguard and it came out pretty good
The goal was to make a clean fit for just the pickups, but I goofed on the dimension and the hole is slightly larger but still looks good.
The question and decision to make is to use the rings or not.?
It's mostly an appearance thing.
I kind of like the silver ring and it goes well with the pearl pickguard.
Without the ring the pickups look kind of naked and small.
Opinions?
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ldk
Joined: Nov 08, 2017
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San Francisco Bay Area
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Posted on Mar 05 2023 01:11 AM
I think it all looks a little cluttered with the rings, especially with the Bigsby. Regardless, looks great.
— If I'd stop buying old guitars to fix, I might actually learn to play.
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edwardsand
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Posted on Mar 05 2023 10:42 AM
I lean toward no pickup rings. You can always add the rings later.
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synchro
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Posted on Mar 08 2023 12:29 AM
I look forward to watching the progress of this build.
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IceratzSurf
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Posted on Mar 08 2023 10:55 PM
Tonight's progress resumes with copper shielding. I had previously shielded the single coil cavities.
But the humbucker retool wasted a lot.
Next up is mounting pickups!
Thinking no rings and a clean cut opening in pickguard.
The bridge fit to pickguard was critical to cover the last open corner cavity. I had also cut this bridge plate down carefully to match this last fit.
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synchro
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Posted on Mar 08 2023 11:33 PM
That looks great.
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joebonni
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Los Angeles, CA
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Posted on Mar 09 2023 07:55 AM
Gretsch pickups are a mind blower just love the sound of them .......... I also like the TV Jones Super'Tron they are off the chain although it really depends what you are looking for .........
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synchro
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Posted on Mar 09 2023 08:00 AM
I’m a big fan of Supertrons, myself. It’s a very present and strong pickup, without losing the high end.
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IceratzSurf
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Posted on Mar 09 2023 06:51 PM
It's Alive!
Wiring all checks out.
I used a basic 3 way switch with a few cool mods.
500meg pots
Tone Bleed circuit
NOS Russian paper and oil 0.015uf capacitor!!
The reverse switch plate required making ground jumper lines from the PU terminations. Soldered & Heat shrink tubed.
Using the fine screwdriver I tested the active sweep of controls and was thrilled!
Next and last up is the Bigsby!
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synchro
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Posted on Mar 09 2023 10:40 PM
Beautiful work.
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IceratzSurf
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Posted on Mar 10 2023 11:54 AM
It's DONE!
Wow what a great new vibe!
I think it came better than I expected.
I invented my own alignment method to mount the Bigsby.
Using 2 strings and an elastic at the headstock, I could move around the Bigsby and keep tension on the strings!
Was pretty easy to do
The effort to exactly fit the cutouts in the custom pickguard for the pickups were as good as I could muster.
There is a little more gap at the bottom of the bridge pickup than I wanted.
From my playing perspective I don't see it.
From audience perspective the whammy is mostly in the forefront.
I do not like the looks of using the rings either.
My mistake was using the rings as a template. They are way oversized.
Eh, it's all good!
...I'll get it perfect on the next custom pickguard!
I used flatwound strings and got the setup perfect! Wow it's so smooth to play! Low action , no buzzing and slick!
The tone and volume controls are also within excellent ranges.
So my pot and cap combo is a keeper.
I have these same pickups in my Gretsch 6120 Nashville hollow body, so I knew what the sound would be like similar.
Well it's more powerful!
I have to roll off the volume on the guitar or turn the amplifier down a smidgen.
The sustain is way more than the Gretsch!
All goals sought-after and accomplished!
Thanks for your interest if reading!
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synchro
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Posted on Mar 10 2023 07:40 PM
You do some great work.
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IceratzSurf
Joined: Oct 22, 2022
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Posted on Mar 10 2023 07:58 PM
synchro wrote:
You do some great work.<
Thanks Synchro!
I always appreciate your feedback.
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james14000
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Posted on Mar 12 2023 12:00 PM
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DrippyReverbTremolo
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Posted on Mar 12 2023 01:24 PM
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IceratzSurf
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Posted on Mar 13 2023 09:15 PM
Hey fellow Filtertron fans.
I maybe need some advice.
I have this telecaster setup ultra low action, (my normal setup for all single coils)
I think the Filtertrons are putting out way more power than they should be.
I have set PUs closer to strings than TVJones spec. ( it's likely the issue)
If I lower pUs further I could go down with PU cover flush with the pickguard.
I will try that just to hear the signal strengt and evaluate.
If I really need the PU that low, then it's likely that I would instead, shim the neck pocket and tilt the neck, then raise the bridge saddles and accomplish the height range.
Question to anyone who has setup a Tele with Filtertrons.
My Gretsch 6120 Nashville has a tilted neck design and raised bridge.
The pickups are not harsh at all by comparison to the other single coil guitars,
The volume on amplifier is requiered way lower for this new Telecaster Filtertron than any of my other guitars.
Just wondering about this subject of these particular PU setups and the sensitivity of height adjustment.
Not had an arrangement so bright.
Thanks Jeff
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IceratzSurf
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Posted on Mar 14 2023 09:33 AM
Well I think I answered my own question.
My Dad used to say "when all else fails, read the directions"
I reset the PU height exactly to TV JONES specifications and the whole thing mellowed out.
I swap other guitars with the same amplifier volume setting and all are similar audio levels.
The Telecaster tone and volume controls also increased range capabilities.
But, as expected, the low height of the PUs are really close to the pickguard, dropped into the body. I might shim and tilt the neck and raise the bridge, to allow pickups also to be raised.
Checking the Gretsch Nashville arrangement, I do have both guitars now with the same PU height to strings.
The Gretsch was made for these PUs as seen in the extra raised exposure of pickups, with the neck tilt, break angle to bridge ect.
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synchro
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Posted on Mar 14 2023 10:48 PM
If it works, I’d leave it as it.
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When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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