ldk
Joined: Nov 08, 2017
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Posted on Jan 24 2023 12:12 AM
I was talking to Gellert of The Fintastics about how he makes backing tracks. We didn't get into detail but he said he starts with some artificial intelligence software for splitting a song into vocals, bass, drums and guitars. I'd never heard of such a thing, so I Googled it.
Turns out there are lots of web sites that do this, most for a nominal fee, and usually with a free trial. I tried a few of them with a couple of vocal and instrumental songs. Some sites worked better than others and some songs split up better than others. Overall, though, it's pretty impressive.
These sites seem to make a serviceable track for karaoke, and maybe for instrumentals, although the rhythm and lead guitars end up in one track. The drum tracks can be pretty good and might be a better start for a backing track than something like Hydrogen.
The reason for this post, though, is that I found the individual instrument tracks to be really helpful for learning a song. In some songs the bass and rhythm guitars are hard to hear, at least for me, and these tracks help. I ran Link Wray's Rumble through vocalremover.org/splitter-ai, and the bass track was easy to follow.
Anyone else use such AI software?
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dhodgeh
Joined: May 03, 2014
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Posted on Jan 24 2023 04:05 PM
Long time lurker just getting back into the surf music scene.
It was Gellert's post that turned me on to this tech, and I have just started to look into it a bit more.
From what little I have uncovered just yet, it look like some of these sites may be using a piece of software called Spleeter. It is open source, but looks to be very low level and has a bit of a learning curve.
Like you, I have found some sites work better the others, and yes, most seem to blend all the guitars onto one track.
I'm debating on if I want to get into the guts of Spleeter, or just keep trying to find a site or standalone program (there does seem to be a few) that will work better for what I'm trying to extract - i.e. the guitar tracks.
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ldk
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Posted on Jan 25 2023 12:24 AM
dhodgeh wrote:
Long time lurker just getting back into the surf music scene.
It was Gellert's post that turned me on to this tech, and I have just started to look into it a bit more.
From what little I have uncovered just yet, it look like some of these sites may be using a piece of software called Spleeter. It is open source, but looks to be very low level and has a bit of a learning curve.
Like you, I have found some sites work better the others, and yes, most seem to blend all the guitars onto one track.
I'm debating on if I want to get into the guts of Spleeter, or just keep trying to find a site or standalone program (there does seem to be a few) that will work better for what I'm trying to extract - i.e. the guitar tracks.
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I got Spleeter going on my computer--not too hard to do. (PM me if you want to know what I did.) For the song I used it worked OK, but vocalremover.org/splitter-ai did a better job. There's another stand-alone program I'll try soon.
— If I'd stop buying old guitars to fix, I might actually learn to play.
Bringing instruments back to life since 2013.
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ldk
Joined: Nov 08, 2017
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San Francisco Bay Area
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Posted on Jan 29 2023 11:55 AM
This thread hasn't generated much interested, but I'll finish it off by saying that I also tried 'demucs,' which was easy to install and use. Instructions are at https://github.com/facebookresearch/demucs.
In the end, I found vocalremover.org/splitter-ai, spleeter and demucs worked pretty well. If I had to choose one, I'd say demucs, but it was not uniformly best with the songs I tested.
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Sonichris
Joined: Mar 06, 2006
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Posted on Jan 29 2023 06:50 PM
Can we share songs? I'm interested in this, but not totally computer savvy enough to do it myself.
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ldk
Joined: Nov 08, 2017
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Posted on Jan 29 2023 07:00 PM
Sonichris wrote:
Can we share songs? I'm interested in this, but not totally computer savvy enough to do it myself.
Sure. Let me know a song, and I'll split it for you. You can then let me know what you think of it.
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