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22SeaDo

Joined: Oct 30, 2018
Posts: 99
Mojave Valley, AZ.
United States

Posted on Jun 01 2020 07:58 PM

Stop laughing. Sounds better than it looks.

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Toneschaser

Joined: Jun 14, 2012
Posts: 462
Ohio!
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Posted on Jun 02 2020 07:18 AM

Sweet! a Music Man in the rare white Pinwhal tolex!

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synchro

Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4554
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
United States

Posted on Jun 03 2020 11:41 PM

Noting wrong with that, at all. Music Man amps are great.

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Redfeather

Joined: Jul 30, 2016
Posts: 896
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Posted on Jun 05 2020 02:13 AM

I have a Music Man 210-HD Sixty-Five and I think it's a really nice amp. The tremolo is one of a kind. When you turn it up past 5 it sort of doubles up and becomes this really weird watery sounding thing. The reverb is nice and wet, too. The distortion ain't nothin' to get excited about, though.

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22SeaDo

Joined: Oct 30, 2018
Posts: 99
Mojave Valley, AZ.
United States

Posted on Jun 05 2020 03:30 AM

Redfeather wrote:

I have a Music Man 210-HD Sixty-Five and I think it's a really nice amp. The tremolo is one of a kind. When you turn it up past 5 it sort of doubles up and becomes this really weird watery sounding thing. The reverb is nice and wet, too. The distortion ain't nothin' to get excited about, though.
Mine is the RD 210 one hundred watt. Not much chance of turning it up in a senior gated community but you're right about distortion ain't nothin' I found mine on c/l a week after I bought my timid little 5 watt Epi valve jr.

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ArabSpringReverb

Joined: Jul 13, 2012
Posts: 490
San Diego CA
United States

Posted on Jun 05 2020 10:34 PM

Count me in as another MusicMan user .. I have had a 2-12 130 combo for 30 years and recently got the head version , the HD 130 Reverb
http://www.vintageguitar.com/12887/music-man-hd-130-reverb/
I use a giant fender bandmaster cab with the head and it and the combo both have Eminance Swamp Thang speakers . the on board reverb is really good
and not really like fender onboard reverb ..not sure how to describe it but its splashier than most fender on board . . As mentioned the trem is normal fender optic sound from 1-5 intensity but over that a second pulse is added and it gets rotovibey . I always use a reverb tank in front of the amps and that gives it a nice preamping . I dont mind the solid state preamp its kind of neutral rather than offensive or fake sounding and most of my tone shaping is from the tanks and or clean boost pedal I use . and these amps take pedals very well ; I used to play punk rock with a rat pedal on the combo ( Joan Jett uses MM combos for her whole career ).
And of course they have a whopping 4xEL34 (or 6CA7) power section making well over 100 watts of clean power ..the punch is incredible .

Last edited: Jun 05, 2020 22:35:49

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synchro

Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4554
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
United States

Posted on Jun 05 2020 11:03 PM

ArabSpringReverb wrote:

Count me in as another MusicMan user .. I have had a 2-12 130 combo for 30 years and recently got the head version , the HD 130 Reverb
http://www.vintageguitar.com/12887/music-man-hd-130-reverb/
I use a giant fender bandmaster cab with the head and it and the combo both have Eminance Swamp Thang speakers . the on board reverb is really good
and not really like fender onboard reverb ..not sure how to describe it but its splashier than most fender on board . . As mentioned the trem is normal fender optic sound from 1-5 intensity but over that a second pulse is added and it gets rotovibey . I always use a reverb tank in front of the amps and that gives it a nice preamping . I dont mind the solid state preamp its kind of neutral rather than offensive or fake sounding and most of my tone shaping is from the tanks and or clean boost pedal I use . and these amps take pedals very well ; I used to play punk rock with a rat pedal on the combo ( Joan Jett uses MM combos for her whole career ).
And of course they have a whopping 4xEL34 (or 6CA7) power section making well over 100 watts of clean power ..the punch is incredible .

That’s an impressive amp. I read the article and agree with their assessment. It’s a step beyond a Twin, and that’s saying something. The hybrid nature of these amps has never bothered me. The sound fine and are tough as nails. I’d love to know more about how the reverb sounds.

I always wanted one, but never got around to it.

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ArabSpringReverb

Joined: Jul 13, 2012
Posts: 490
San Diego CA
United States

Posted on Jun 05 2020 11:17 PM

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ArabSpringReverb

Joined: Jul 13, 2012
Posts: 490
San Diego CA
United States

Posted on Jun 06 2020 12:01 AM

Synchro , check this amp out ..if the tech stuff bores you , forward to when he delivers and demonstrates the amp , the phaser is outta this world . I always wondered why anyone would want one in an amp and now I know why .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vuWqFCvcJM

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synchro

Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4554
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
United States

Posted on Jun 07 2020 02:01 AM

ArabSpringReverb wrote:

Synchro , check this amp out ..if the tech stuff bores you , forward to when he delivers and demonstrates the amp , the phaser is outta this world . I always wondered why anyone would want one in an amp and now I know why .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vuWqFCvcJM

That was interesting. I learned a bit and was surprised by how they fed the cathodes of the power section, instead of the grids.

The amp sounded great, absolutely top drawer sound. That phase shifter may be the best I’ve ever heard. I’m still a bit in the dark about what happens when you pull the Speed knob. I would imagine that amp would Surf with the best of them

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simoncoil

Joined: Sep 28, 2012
Posts: 926
Berlin, Germany
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Posted on Jun 07 2020 10:00 AM

Another Music Man here:

I have been using this RD100 with an open 2x10 cabinet in the rehearsal room and for recording for about a year now. It belongs to our drummer, who got it when his former band split up all things they bought from band money. Reverb doesn't really work, probably a faulty pan, but other than that it's fine. Our bass player has a HD200, so we could go for a full Music Man backline, but I prefer to have 12 inch speakers on stage (or 15 inch if I don't have to lug them around myself. )

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xavier_irvine

Joined: Jun 06, 2020
Posts: 13
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Posted on Jun 09 2020 08:07 AM

Fender/Sunn Model T Reissue. From the 1990's.
The scourge of live sound engineers because it's extremely loud.

The clean channel on these amps is very mid-focused, almost sounds more like a Marshall, so I had its tone section modified by a local tech to make it more Fender-like.

I built the cabinet out of hardwood, it has a semi-open back, and it's loaded with a pair of WGS g12c/s 75 watt speakers.

https://the-birdcage.bandcamp.com/

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Tqi

Joined: Dec 07, 2014
Posts: 1222
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Posted on Sep 27 2020 07:26 AM

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BB_Bunny

Joined: Sep 13, 2020
Posts: 182
New York
United States

Posted on Sep 27 2020 03:46 PM

JonnyAngle wrote:

That's a crazy headstock!

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22SeaDo Joined: Oct 30, 2018 Posts: 99 Mojave Valley, AZ.	Posted on Jun 01 2020 07:58 PM Stop laughing. Sounds better than it looks. — "Here's to the man who drinks dark ale and goes to bed quite mellow. He lives as he ought to live and dies a jolly good fellow" Top
Toneschaser Joined: Jun 14, 2012 Posts: 462 Ohio!	Posted on Jun 02 2020 07:18 AM Sweet! a Music Man in the rare white Pinwhal tolex! Top
synchro Joined: Feb 02, 2008 Posts: 4554 Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.	Posted on Jun 03 2020 11:41 PM Noting wrong with that, at all. Music Man amps are great. — The artist formerly known as: Synchro When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar. Top
Redfeather Joined: Jul 30, 2016 Posts: 896	Posted on Jun 05 2020 02:13 AM I have a Music Man 210-HD Sixty-Five and I think it's a really nice amp. The tremolo is one of a kind. When you turn it up past 5 it sort of doubles up and becomes this really weird watery sounding thing. The reverb is nice and wet, too. The distortion ain't nothin' to get excited about, though. Top
22SeaDo Joined: Oct 30, 2018 Posts: 99 Mojave Valley, AZ.	Posted on Jun 05 2020 03:30 AM Redfeather wrote: I have a Music Man 210-HD Sixty-Five and I think it's a really nice amp. The tremolo is one of a kind. When you turn it up past 5 it sort of doubles up and becomes this really weird watery sounding thing. The reverb is nice and wet, too. The distortion ain't nothin' to get excited about, though. Mine is the RD 210 one hundred watt. Not much chance of turning it up in a senior gated community but you're right about distortion ain't nothin' I found mine on c/l a week after I bought my timid little 5 watt Epi valve jr. — "Here's to the man who drinks dark ale and goes to bed quite mellow. He lives as he ought to live and dies a jolly good fellow" Top
ArabSpringReverb Joined: Jul 13, 2012 Posts: 490 San Diego CA	Posted on Jun 05 2020 10:34 PM Count me in as another MusicMan user .. I have had a 2-12 130 combo for 30 years and recently got the head version , the HD 130 Reverb http://www.vintageguitar.com/12887/music-man-hd-130-reverb/ I use a giant fender bandmaster cab with the head and it and the combo both have Eminance Swamp Thang speakers . the on board reverb is really good and not really like fender onboard reverb ..not sure how to describe it but its splashier than most fender on board . . As mentioned the trem is normal fender optic sound from 1-5 intensity but over that a second pulse is added and it gets rotovibey . I always use a reverb tank in front of the amps and that gives it a nice preamping . I dont mind the solid state preamp its kind of neutral rather than offensive or fake sounding and most of my tone shaping is from the tanks and or clean boost pedal I use . and these amps take pedals very well ; I used to play punk rock with a rat pedal on the combo ( Joan Jett uses MM combos for her whole career ). And of course they have a whopping 4xEL34 (or 6CA7) power section making well over 100 watts of clean power ..the punch is incredible . Last edited: Jun 05, 2020 22:35:49 Top
synchro Joined: Feb 02, 2008 Posts: 4554 Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.	Posted on Jun 05 2020 11:03 PM ArabSpringReverb wrote: Count me in as another MusicMan user .. I have had a 2-12 130 combo for 30 years and recently got the head version , the HD 130 Reverb http://www.vintageguitar.com/12887/music-man-hd-130-reverb/ I use a giant fender bandmaster cab with the head and it and the combo both have Eminance Swamp Thang speakers . the on board reverb is really good and not really like fender onboard reverb ..not sure how to describe it but its splashier than most fender on board . . As mentioned the trem is normal fender optic sound from 1-5 intensity but over that a second pulse is added and it gets rotovibey . I always use a reverb tank in front of the amps and that gives it a nice preamping . I dont mind the solid state preamp its kind of neutral rather than offensive or fake sounding and most of my tone shaping is from the tanks and or clean boost pedal I use . and these amps take pedals very well ; I used to play punk rock with a rat pedal on the combo ( Joan Jett uses MM combos for her whole career ). And of course they have a whopping 4xEL34 (or 6CA7) power section making well over 100 watts of clean power ..the punch is incredible . That’s an impressive amp. I read the article and agree with their assessment. It’s a step beyond a Twin, and that’s saying something. The hybrid nature of these amps has never bothered me. The sound fine and are tough as nails. I’d love to know more about how the reverb sounds. I always wanted one, but never got around to it. — The artist formerly known as: Synchro When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar. Top
ArabSpringReverb Joined: Jul 13, 2012 Posts: 490 San Diego CA	Posted on Jun 05 2020 11:17 PM Top
ArabSpringReverb Joined: Jul 13, 2012 Posts: 490 San Diego CA	Posted on Jun 06 2020 12:01 AM Synchro , check this amp out ..if the tech stuff bores you , forward to when he delivers and demonstrates the amp , the phaser is outta this world . I always wondered why anyone would want one in an amp and now I know why . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vuWqFCvcJM Last edited: Jun 06, 2020 00:05:34 Top
synchro Joined: Feb 02, 2008 Posts: 4554 Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.	Posted on Jun 07 2020 02:01 AM ArabSpringReverb wrote: Synchro , check this amp out ..if the tech stuff bores you , forward to when he delivers and demonstrates the amp , the phaser is outta this world . I always wondered why anyone would want one in an amp and now I know why . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vuWqFCvcJM That was interesting. I learned a bit and was surprised by how they fed the cathodes of the power section, instead of the grids. The amp sounded great, absolutely top drawer sound. That phase shifter may be the best I’ve ever heard. I’m still a bit in the dark about what happens when you pull the Speed knob. I would imagine that amp would Surf with the best of them — The artist formerly known as: Synchro When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar. Last edited: Sep 27, 2020 07:51:04 Top
simoncoil Joined: Sep 28, 2012 Posts: 926 Berlin, Germany	Posted on Jun 07 2020 10:00 AM Another Music Man here: I have been using this RD100 with an open 2x10 cabinet in the rehearsal room and for recording for about a year now. It belongs to our drummer, who got it when his former band split up all things they bought from band money. Reverb doesn't really work, probably a faulty pan, but other than that it's fine. Our bass player has a HD200, so we could go for a full Music Man backline, but I prefer to have 12 inch speakers on stage (or 15 inch if I don't have to lug them around myself. ) — Los Apollos - cinematic surf music trio (Berlin) "Postcards from the Scrapyard" Vol. 1, 2 & 3 NOW available on various platforms! "Chaos at the Lobster Lounge" available as LP and download on Surf Cookie Records! Top
xavier_irvine Joined: Jun 06, 2020 Posts: 13	Posted on Jun 09 2020 08:07 AM Fender/Sunn Model T Reissue. From the 1990's. The scourge of live sound engineers because it's extremely loud. The clean channel on these amps is very mid-focused, almost sounds more like a Marshall, so I had its tone section modified by a local tech to make it more Fender-like. I built the cabinet out of hardwood, it has a semi-open back, and it's loaded with a pair of WGS g12c/s 75 watt speakers. https://the-birdcage.bandcamp.com/ Top
Tqi Joined: Dec 07, 2014 Posts: 1222	Posted on Sep 27 2020 07:26 AM - Last edited: Feb 02, 2024 14:44:37 Top
BB_Bunny Joined: Sep 13, 2020 Posts: 182 New York	Posted on Sep 27 2020 03:46 PM JonnyAngle wrote: That's a crazy headstock! — Premiere Single Out Now! - Keep On Running Psychic Chime - Instagram Psychic Chime - Twitter Professional Website (film-scoring) Top

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